Vocation: CANNOT Pick/Choose; It Chose U, Not U Choose It...
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from the chap's replies, you guys think that the only reason he didn't make it to command school .... was cos he ticked "no" ? .....
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Originally posted by Yyytra:
i need to report to unit on monday.. how to go cmpb recuritmen office?
call them...
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Can still hear the voices.
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well...ya could make a call to cmpb.....go to unit tell your encik or warrant officer about yer plans.......ya could have done this back in bmt too mths ago.
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u hear voices???did u starting herin them when u entered pulau teking???cuz pulau tekong is considered a very supernatural place to me...and i swore never to go back there again.
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Originally posted by Yyytra:
Can still hear the voices.
well if such a thing is already making you depressed .... obviously, you do not have the mental fortitude to lead men into combat. It's a good thing that you didn't end up in any of the command schools. I suppose somehow it all works out in the SAF.
hopefully, what remains of the two years would imbue some emotional maturity and mental strength in you.
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Trust me, if you are not hallucinating auditory voices and you are saying you are,it is as good as manlingering. And you know the consequences of that.
Please DO NOT insult mental patients by faking as one of them. Thanks.
Seriously, life as a man or spec in the unit have not much difference. You may see on the surface being a spec is better off, but you do not see the shit they get behind the scenes. I am very interested in how your parents think. Even being a regular 'farmer' commander doesnt make anyone more special.At the end of the day life still need to go on. If you need to see your MO or whoever go ahead. Two same person can enter the same unit and vocation and can come out with very different experiences. If you can't change your situation, then make the best out of it. I am sure, it would not be as worse as you fear to think it will be.
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make it simpler...go immigrate and end up as a security guard and own a house n car overseas.choice is up to u.
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Originally posted by Yyytra:
Can still hear the voices.
You very good....no wonder you wanna go MDC...very dramatic life.
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No one is faking anything. This has genuinely been a traumatic experience. You may feel free to call others weak but it is a fact that not everyone's mental constitution is built equally strongly.
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i bet you are from jc...why all the jc pple all go riflemen must kpkb one ah , too low class for you guys is it ? i have friends who tick no and still dont become riflemen too, its a gamble you lost it so now face it la..
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Most of the time people cannot accept that despite the eduacation they had, still end up in one of the so call lowest vocation in the SAF. Most of them cannot face the fact. In some cases, they tried too hard to get into some vocations like OCS so when they cannot get in they tends to think it's the end of the world.
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Originally posted by tarutaru:
Most of the time people cannot accept that despite the eduacation they had, still end up in one of the so call lowest vocation in the SAF. Most of them cannot face the fact. In some cases, they tried too hard to get into some vocations like OCS so when they cannot get in they tends to think it's the end of the world.
there's a stigma attached if a person were to get posted to be a riflemen despite having A levels or diploma. The first thing that comes to people's mind is most probably---> Wtf, A levels/Diploma holder becoming a rifleman? this guy must be very fucked up/ stupid..
moreover, it'll be difficult for this guy to live with and interact with those uneducated riflemen. There's a probability that he might be bullied by a particular group of people (won't be too explicit or i'll be getting into trouble for inciting racial tension. lol) if he's the nerdy kind... especially with his mental condition..
it might be good if he can seek some help so that he can escaped being a rifleman...
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Originally posted by multipleviews:
there's a stigma attached if a person were to get posted to be a riflemen despite having A levels or diploma. The first thing that comes to people's mind is most probably---> Wtf, A levels/Diploma holder becoming a rifleman? this guy must be very fucked up/ stupid..
moreover, it'll be difficult for this guy to live with and interact with those uneducated riflemen. There's a probability that he might be bullied by a particular group of people (won't be too explicit or i'll be getting into trouble for inciting racial tension. lol) if he's the nerdy kind... especially with his mental condition..
it might be good if he can seek some help so that he can escaped being a rifleman...
Well it's good to see a doctor to sort of the problem, but running away will not solve the problem. It's good to mixed with all kinda of people.
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Originally posted by Yyytra:
No, seriously. Ask yourself: who gave you those expectations? Did your friends and parents tell you that you must be a commander? Did they tell you that you will be any less of a man if you don't get stripes or bars?
This is not far off the truth especially your last statement. Not all parents are as relaxed with their children as you think. The burden on my heart is immense.
while i think that your suggestin to talk to a commander (which would HAVE to be my bmtc commanders) is a useful one, i really do feel that talking to a psychiatrist or some specialist would be more helpful for me..
i really cannot face this shit. heart is beating like crazy and i can still hear voices..
if i genuinely can hear voices every few minutes, should i seek professional help or suck it up?
mr fudgester, with all due respect, are you an s1 officer/chief clerk and are you the one who edited the topic? can you explain the whole topic because it doesnt make sense. it would seem that you are implying the appeal process doesnt exist..
No, I did not edit the topic; that was the work of one of my fellow moderators.
Let me ask you something: did all your friends and parents seriously tell you that they would look down on you, ostracize you, and mock you for not going into a command position?
You're telling me that your parents will no longer love you as their son because you can't have three stripes or one chocolate bar on your chest? I am willing to take a chance and say that you are simply blowing things out of proportion.
Even if they did.... whose life are you living, and whose expectations are you meeting? Theirs, or yours? Are you living your own life to the best of your expectations, or theirs? People can only dictate to you what you should do with your life if you allow them to do so.
And honestly, even if what you say is all true, then how do you want to stand up to the rigours and responsibilities of being a commander if you can't stand up to others and just say no?
You cannot change your circumstances in the SAF, but you can change your approach to those circumstances. By all means, approach a commander whom you trust, or call the SAF helpline and talk to a counsellor if it can make you feel better.
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Lao peh ocifer, doesn't mean kia must atleast be sergeant one lah.
This is just part of life, sometimes, you just don't get want you want, even you try to your best to change, keng, watever you do.
And yes, SAF is one of those things in life, you can't do sh*t about it. I like to think of SAF is one of those road blocks in life that "wake up your idea" that life is not smooth sailing.
It teaches one to get the best outcome in a sh*tty situation that you can't change, who knows it might be a skill worth acquiring eh.
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Originally posted by Yyytra:
i need to report to unit on monday.. how to go cmpb recuritmen office?
I just started reading this topic as it got featured on the frontpage of SGForums. I had not formed any opinion YET until I read your above post. This is only my opinion and please understand that I'm not trying to flame you.
Searching for the answer to your question above is probably as easy as going to mindef.gov.sg and then poking around for the info. Or go to streetdirectory.com and do a search. But, instead you chose to make a post here and wait for the answer to be fed to you. Not sure I want someone who is indecisive and who does not take the initiative to be my section leader.
Just my $0.02, and my apology if you feel offended.
BBT
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Sign on lah since TS is so garang. When he sign on he can chose whatever vocation he want.
What a moron sia.
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TS is a ns man right?
Aiya....just complete your ns and rod lah.
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be a leader among the men.
sect 2ic in a infantry sect also not bad. in war if your 3sg die, you will be leading the section.
its not where you are posted to, its what you can make full use of what you got posted to that matters.
think about it, you go mdc, fuck it up, when u ord and look back, you will think that you are a fuck up musician.
and then think about if you go infantry coy, you get ippt gold, sect 2ic, popular among your platoon, when you ord get CFC, your CO personally praise you for the effort put in over the 2 years during ORD parade.
I ask you, which is more fulfilling?
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TS, relax leh...
U are only serving 2 years. Why so garang???
U want that 3rd sergeant rank so people can respect u ah?
Let me tell u this, a private or lance corporal can get the same respect if he show leadership and commitment.
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btw TS what so good abt been a 3SG? The higher your rank, the more responsibility you have. You so indecisve I don't see you as good SGT or LTA
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what's the big deal, seriously. at my workplace there are some guys in management who are CPL(NS) and they have some subordinates who are CPT(NS). and all these guys are not yet 40. so NS rank doesn't make a difference in civilian life lah.
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
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Oi, kopi, you don't go and infringe my copyright hor?
Anyway, there are plenty of things we can say, but before we do so there is one simple question to consider:
This kid thinks that Shitman is making more sense than anyone else - how much hope is there, really?