Originally posted by Lokey:You see. B2 is only talking about IPPT. That is excuse chip up and perhaps shuttle run (cose u need to pick up the stuff). You can still run 2.4 km, do sit up and standing broad jump (These are lower limb activities). The other part is the land deployment code, which determined your vocation.
SAF expect you to do physio and fix the upper limbs. And not leave it unfixed. Anyway, fixing the limbs through surgery is the best and fastest option. NS is only 2 years, nothing compared to a unusable arm for 80 years? Believe me, unfixed shoulder join can lead to shoulder impingement syndrome -> nerve impingement syndrome -> finally lost of limb function at 30s to 40s. (if you dont fix it now)
" if it can recoup by itself" - personally, I prefer to do surgery and walk around in camp with arm support for half to a year. Nobody will bother you then.
I understand that an upperlimp injury may seem to only effect upper limb, but please try to imagine how you would run if you weren't allowed to swing your arm. Again, with SBJ, how would you do it if your arms were tied to your body. The pain that spreads from swinging my arm, moving it constantly is actually quite painful, too the point where it's almost unbearable.
Surgery right now would be pointless since the main reason why my shoulder joint is in this position is because having a higher than normal shoulderblade exposes more of my shoulder joint to friction from my bones. So if I were to get surgery now, it'd be pointless since the main cause, my shoulderblade, is still prevelant. So it'd be better to correct the solution in the correct order, rather than doing surgery and still have it get worse.
I'm not trying to sound mean, but this is what my specialist has told me, hence why I'm asking for some experience people to tell me what I'm going to be looking forward too in my case, sorry if I wasn't clear before about my situation.
Originally posted by pringo:I understand that an upperlimp injury may seem to only effect upper limb, but please try to imagine how you would run if you weren't allowed to swing your arm. Again, with SBJ, how would you do it if your arms were tied to your body. The pain that spreads from swinging my arm, moving it constantly is actually quite painful, too the point where it's almost unbearable.
Surgery right now would be pointless since the main reason why my shoulder joint is in this position is because having a higher than normal shoulderblade exposes more of my shoulder joint to friction from my bones. So if I were to get surgery now, it'd be pointless since the main cause, my shoulderblade, is still prevelant. So it'd be better to correct the solution in the correct order, rather than doing surgery and still have it get worse.
I'm not trying to sound mean, but this is what my specialist has told me, hence why I'm asking for some experience people to tell me what I'm going to be looking forward too in my case, sorry if I wasn't clear before about my situation.
I think you misunderstood. What you are having is a temporary problem. For example, the person have leg fracture, broken completely. He surely cannot walk at all. So he is temp downgrade to E9L9 or excuse lower limb for half a year to 1 year. After a year, he heal back but cannot run. So he is still Pes B2 L 2 excuse lower limb activities.
Your shoulder problem is a temp problem. I think you better get another specialist at SGH. From my understanding, there is a tear with your tendon in your shoulder. So this result inflammation and swelling which should subside with NSAIDS drugs. Then shoulder blade is actually tightening to pull to make room for the acromion region. So as long as the tear is present, shoulder will protect itself by pulling up itself.
Anyway, u may get lower like C9L9, depends on how bad it is.
Originally posted by Lokey:I think you misunderstood. What you are having is a temporary problem. For example, the person have leg fracture, broken completely. He surely cannot walk at all. So he is temp downgrade to E9L9 or excuse lower limb for half a year to 1 year. After a year, he heal back but cannot run. So he is still Pes B2 L 2 excuse lower limb activities.
Your shoulder problem is a temp problem. I think you better get another specialist at SGH. From my understanding, there is a tear with your tendon in your shoulder. So this result inflammation and swelling which should subside with NSAIDS drugs. Then shoulder blade is actually tightening to pull to make room for the acromion region. So as long as the tear is present, shoulder will protect itself by pulling up itself.
Anyway, u may get lower like C9L9, depends on how bad it is.
Yea, so I need to bring my shoulderblade down to the normal position, which will alliveate the pressure it's placing on my joint. So that's why I said surgery as of now wouldn't help in the long run, only after I get my shoulderblade down will it make sense. And to do that I was told can take 6months to a year.
But put aside the if's and buts, my pes will be temporary right? After how long will they decide to review my again? 3,6 months? a year?
The swelling is caused by the irritation from moving my arm, since my shoulderblade is higher than normal, my shoulder joint doesn't have enough space, so it's constantly getting rubbed by my shoulder bones. Just wanted to clear that up. I'm on anti-imflammatory drugs, but it can only help so much. Need to get my shoulder blade back to normal before the swelling can completely stop.
Originally posted by pringo:Yea, so I need to bring my shoulderblade down to the normal position, which will alliveate the pressure it's placing on my joint. So that's why I said surgery as of now wouldn't help in the long run, only after I get my shoulderblade down will it make sense. And to do that I was told can take 6months to a year.
But put aside the if's and buts, my pes will be temporary right? After how long will they decide to review my again? 3,6 months? a year?
The swelling is caused by the irritation from moving my arm, since my shoulderblade is higher than normal, my shoulder joint doesn't have enough space, so it's constantly getting rubbed by my shoulder bones. Just wanted to clear that up. I'm on anti-imflammatory drugs, but it can only help so much. Need to get my shoulder blade back to normal before the swelling can completely stop.
Shoulder problem will one roll to the another . Hard to get rid of. Probably u might need to downgrade several times over the yearsss.
My friend has frequent dislocation. Squeeze also can dislocate shoulder. Pes B2 L2?
Hi all,
So do I still need specialist letter for lazy eye and flat foot?
And for my OCD, I have been instructed by doctor to not put stress in my life, because stress can magnify my symptoms. Also, I have many different obsessions, including cleaning, counting, superstition and aggressiveness. I think I may have some anxiety issues, which I will bring up again in greater detail on my next appt with my psychiatrist. I have actually mentioned my anxiety issues with my psychologist before, but only just talked abit about it. I tend to get anxious easily and this makes me less capable than normal, and my hands tremble frequently. I have done thyroid test and other test for trembling hands and body but show nothing. I think it is because of my anxiety/anxiousness? When I get anxiety attacks, I get paralyzed with fear, as in I just freeze and not do anything with a blank mind.
I think at most my specialist might just write something like just declaring I have and been diagnosed with OCD, and on regular medication. I don't think he will write any special "strong worded" letter?
Originally posted by anthonychua52:Hi all,
So do I still need specialist letter for lazy eye and flat foot?
And for my OCD, I have been instructed by doctor to not put stress in my life, because stress can magnify my symptoms. Also, I have many different obsessions, including cleaning, counting, superstition and aggressiveness. I think I may have some anxiety issues, which I will bring up again in greater detail on my next appt with my psychiatrist. I have actually mentioned my anxiety issues with my psychologist before, but only just talked abit about it. I tend to get anxious easily and this makes me less capable than normal, and my hands tremble frequently. I have done thyroid test and other test for trembling hands and body but show nothing. I think it is because of my anxiety/anxiousness? When I get anxiety attacks, I get paralyzed with fear, as in I just freeze and not do anything with a blank mind.
I think at most my specialist might just write something like just declaring I have and been diagnosed with OCD, and on regular medication. I don't think he will write any special "strong worded" letter?
If you want, get memos.
If you don't want, then don't get memos.
Very simple. The choice is up to you, whatever suits you fine.
Since I have already given my advice, now it's your turn to decide.
Hi all,
I would like some advice on my situation.
I'm going for my medical check up soon, and i wonder if my condition would lead me to a pes E or even pes F.
I went through a brain tumor surgery about 2 years ago and the tumor was not completely removed. If it was completely removed, i will be blind as it is on my optic nerve. when i see things there will still be a bright spot in one of my eye preventing me to see properly. this also resulted in me losing my sense of smell.
the medicine that i took made me have a history of seizures and my skin is allergic to dust and dirty enviroments, i have very sensitive skin, if dirty enviroments, i will have breakouts on my face. And also, i am very careless and sprain my ankles a few times, always the left leg. sigh.
Is any one here able to give me a vague idea of which pes i'll probably end up in?
thanks alot!
Hi,
I'm currently a SAF reservist. The Medical Board has given me Excuse ICT till June 2011.
I initially thought it was clear cut. But unfortunately no. For 3 months, I applied for deferment, but was rejected by the CO. Now he is playing hide-and-seek with the HQ, refusing to reply to their emails.
My ICT is coming up Jan, what should I do ?
Thanks!
Originally posted by Askbull:Hi,
I'm currently a SAF reservist. The Medical Board has given me Excuse ICT till June 2011.
I initially thought it was clear cut. But unfortunately no. For 3 months, I applied for deferment, but was rejected by the CO. Now he is playing hide-and-seek with the HQ, refusing to reply to their emails.
My ICT is coming up Jan, what should I do ?
Thanks!
Call your unit reservist clerk, show them your excuse.....if not, go see camp MO and ask MO talk to CO.
Originally posted by Askbull:Hi,
I'm currently a SAF reservist. The Medical Board has given me Excuse ICT till June 2011.
I initially thought it was clear cut. But unfortunately no. For 3 months, I applied for deferment, but was rejected by the CO. Now he is playing hide-and-seek with the HQ, refusing to reply to their emails.
My ICT is coming up Jan, what should I do ?
Thanks!
Do you applied your deferment online? Then attached with your document in the email or faxed. And corresponding received a received sent notification. I suspected that your CO may not received your supporting document in the first place.
Hi,
I have done all the neccessary. I have apply and re-apply many times. I have email my doctor's recommendation, the saf medical board's recommendation, my doctor's follow up recommendation etc. I have applied thru the system, thru the clerk, thru my OC etc. The CO is just being difficult.
Thank You.
Hi,
Camp MO sent me for boarding for dwngrade when I went for review on 19th Oct 2010. No news till now. Does this mean it was not successful and I need to arrange for another review?
Thanks
Originally posted by eth0:Hi,
Camp MO sent me for boarding for dwngrade when I went for review on 19th Oct 2010. No news till now. Does this mean it was not successful and I need to arrange for another review?
Thanks
instead of sitting there like a waiting duck, you might as well pick up the phone and call your unit clerk to check... either thru the unit direct phone number or thru the general enquiry hotline of 1800 3676767
yeah I have already done that twice
this is ridiculous. my unit just told me processing the service injury claim will take up from 2 - 4 yrs
Originally posted by eth0:this is ridiculous. my unit just told me processing the service injury claim will take up from 2 - 4 yrs
norm.
eac, i got a question.
Im currently in service of 8months and my current pes is B1 due to back problem. aches. (minor one only aches, maybe thats why the cmpb give me B1)
I have not declared my lazy eye yet. Left eye 500 right eye 50. I have specialist memo already. I would like to know if i can use my lazy eye to down pes? and if down pes, what pes?
I'd like to think first before i act. Thanks.
Originally posted by LazyEye:eac, i got a question.
Im currently in service of 8months and my current pes is B1 due to back problem. aches. (minor one only aches, maybe thats why the cmpb give me B1)
I have not declared my lazy eye yet. Left eye 500 right eye 50. I have specialist memo already. I would like to know if i can use my lazy eye to down pes? and if down pes, what pes?
I'd like to think first before i act. Thanks.
U lazy eye cmpb eye checkup gt measure ur degree wad. They should have put ur specs in a machine to measure the degree. I 450 degree to 500 degree both eye.
U never declare they also know u gt lazy eye one side 500 one side 50.
I think ur case cant downpes leh. U can try declaring and asking MO though.
But from wad I heard lazy eye can downpes but the difference between 2 eye i dunno need how much degree differences.
Army PES bible only MO know how to grade.
I also dont know how i pass cmpb eye test one. I guessed the line of letters correctly by little memory. My right eye is 50 degree only so i can see before they test my lazy eye. So in fact i bluff through la lol. The cmpb MO eye doctor not there when i go, the medics didnt put my specs to the machine, only ask me read, fail to find out i got lazy eye too.
Now dam regret and want to consider down pes liao.
Aiya but nevermind, its past. Now i want to know can down pes anot? and down to what pes only.
Originally posted by LazyEye:I also dont know how i pass cmpb eye test one. I guessed the line of letters correctly by little memory. My right eye is 50 degree only so i can see before they test my lazy eye. So in fact i bluff through la lol. The cmpb MO eye doctor not there when i go, the medics didnt put my specs to the machine, only ask me read, fail to find out i got lazy eye too.
Now dam regret and want to consider down pes liao.Aiya but nevermind, its past. Now i want to know can down pes anot? and down to what pes only.
Since PES is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PULHHEEMS, you can be within PES C range.
In addition, if your backache is due to spinal problem such as degenerative disc disease/ prolapsed intervertebral disc (slipped disc) and also when supported with a specialist memo, you can also be within PES C range, but for this at the least minimum is PES C2.
Originally posted by LazyEye:I also dont know how i pass cmpb eye test one. I guessed the line of letters correctly by little memory. My right eye is 50 degree only so i can see before they test my lazy eye. So in fact i bluff through la lol. The cmpb MO eye doctor not there when i go, the medics didnt put my specs to the machine, only ask me read, fail to find out i got lazy eye too.
Now dam regret and want to consider down pes liao.Aiya but nevermind, its past. Now i want to know can down pes anot? and down to what pes only.
Oh they gt put my specs into machine cos I dunno my degree.
Yes lazy eye depending on severity can be PES C or E I think. E is very big difference.
U better declare ur lazy eye,who knows maybe can downpes.
Anyone know astigmatism wad degree can downpes?
Originally posted by OatKrunch:Hi all,
I would like some advice on my situation.
I'm going for my medical check up soon, and i wonder if my condition would lead me to a pes E or even pes F.
I went through a brain tumor surgery about 2 years ago and the tumor was not completely removed. If it was completely removed, i will be blind as it is on my optic nerve. when i see things there will still be a bright spot in one of my eye preventing me to see properly. this also resulted in me losing my sense of smell.
the medicine that i took made me have a history of seizures and my skin is allergic to dust and dirty enviroments, i have very sensitive skin, if dirty enviroments, i will have breakouts on my face. And also, i am very careless and sprain my ankles a few times, always the left leg. sigh.
Is any one here able to give me a vague idea of which pes i'll probably end up in?
thanks alot!
Surely PES E or F.
Get that Specialist memo, otherwise the camp MO will ignore your claims....
Hi,
I'm just wondering. I'm OOT from BMT and my batch is POPing soon. When they POP I will no longer be part of my company, and instead will be part of the BMTC HQ until they can post me to another vocation. But, I'm still awaiting my specialist review by the SAF. Am I right in saying that they cannot apply for my vocation until I am reviewd by both the SAF Specialist AND the medical board? And only when I recieve my new PES status can they give me a vocation? Or is there another way to it?