Anyone here has been inside before? What does one undergo while inside, carry 20plus kgs sandbags on their back or with their arms 90 degrees in front, do NSmen need to shave bald as well? Will it constitute a criminal record once been inside for maybe a week's sentence? How is the food like? Please don't flame.
u nsman go in for what?
TS, u kenna DB is it? For AWOL IPPT is it?
Originally posted by shitakemush:Anyone here has been inside before? What does one undergo while inside, carry 20plus kgs sandbags on their back or with their arms 90 degrees in front, do NSmen need to shave bald as well? Will it constitute a criminal record once been inside for maybe a week's sentence? How is the food like? Please don't flame.
wahahaha! go there carry sandbag LOL @ TS!
no, u dont do that.
Yes, you will shave botak. you will share a cell with a few others as well.
you all will face the wall when in the cell.
you will wear yellow T-shirt with blue shorts (aka Brazilian Team).
you will be fed "home-cooked" food.. not cook-housed food, but be assured, the food has been "audited" before distributing
you will enjoy daily activities like excercising, jogging, basketball and foot drills
ttheres no mattress. you will sleep on some cheap straw mat. and no, you dont sleep whole day like a chalet. theres a strict regime.
its a nasty and hot and stuffy place in there.
hope I answered your questions
so does it constitute a criminal record which I'm more concerned about. Let's say if it's awol? So there is no more carrying of sandbags inside?
reservist get charged go DB for what fark
reservist can get charged and go DB also. mostly for AWOL from ICT, IPPT, re-call manning.
As to whether will there be a criminal record, I'm not sure. anyone able to clarify on that?
shitakemush a ns man is going to DB?
This is so funny
Originally posted by bahnhoff:reservist can get charged and go DB also. mostly for AWOL from ICT, IPPT, re-call manning.
As to whether will there be a criminal record, I'm not sure. anyone able to clarify on that?
reservist from what I remember is just a $50 dollar fine for everything.
from disciplinary officer: for IPPT not attending it or not attending remedial trainings(due to civilian work schedules)
1st time>>>>fine of $50
2nd time >>fine of $100
3rd time>>>detention barrack (non-negotiable)
all these are meant for post national service men working in civilian jobs or trying to make ends meet.they still would throw u in prison because they sound sometimes like a godamn robot!
I remember a few of the men from my ns unit got charged for AWOL from ICT and recall activation. Thrown into DB for a few days.
but i must say it all depends on your unit CO. at that time was very on the ball regular.
I heard from one of my ex colleague, his NS mate, AWOL for IPPT went kenna charged went into DB but never cut botak.....but sandbag etc still have.
????he got charged for $$$$ and also sent into detention barracks???u mean he din go for ippt or athelete army yearly test as a civilian and he ended up in prison??is is that strict now???
Originally posted by TERMINATOR3000:????he got charged for $$$$ and also sent into detention barracks???u mean he din go for ippt or athelete army yearly test as a civilian and he ended up in prison??is is that strict now???
I guess he skip too many times liao, but this still depend on unit. They decide that they need to be a bit strict on this or else fine only..lot of of these NSmen will sure pay.
NSman can go DB....i've seen and escorted so many NSman to DB
Absence without leave
(2) It shall be a defence for any person charged under this section to prove that his absence was a result of circumstances over which he had no control.
Desertion
(2) For the purposes of this section, a person deserts if he —
(a) leaves or fails to attend at his place of duty in the Singapore Armed Forces with the intention of remaining permanently absent from duty without lawful authority, or, having left or failed to attend at his place of duty in the Singapore Armed Forces, thereafter forms the like intention; or
(b) absents himself without leave with intent to avoid service or any particular service before the enemy,
and references in this Act to desertion shall be construed accordingly.
Failure to report deserters and absentees
(a) fails to report the fact without delay; or
(b) fails to take any steps within his power to cause that person to be apprehended,
shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction by a subordinate military court to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or any less punishment authorised by this Act.
HNMMMM................PARAGRAPH 24......AS A RESERVIST.......TO BE TREATED LIKE SHIT AND AS SOME KINDA CASH CROP BY THE ARMY FOR THE SLIGHTEST INFRACTION...IS AN INSULT TO MY CREED AS A WARRIOR!
I WONT MIND EVEN PAYING A HOUSE VISIT TO THE BASE COMMANDER AND PLAYING WITH HIM.I HOPE HE HAS A FEW HUNDRED ROUNDS OF AMMO AND HIS SIDEARM AT HOME.
MY OIC MAY JUST GET A BLACK EYE AND MISSING ARM.
WAR!!!!!
Just got out from getting peh-ed inside.
If you're a migrant or female, you wouldn't have to go through these shite.
Confirmed... if you never go for IPPT, usually is fine only, but will depend on CO of your unit, some first time already charged, but usually fine only. Even second time also fine.
Skipping of IPPT also results in fine for first time and second time, third time will be charged.
The DB is similar to a civilian jail, as in the cells are small and cramp. Its all bricks and no windows at all. The toilet (squating type) is in the cell, and usually several of you will share the cell. There is a 3 men cell and up to a 7 men cell (if i remember correctly).
You have to shave botak and wear their clothes, its something like in jail. Do foot drills and exercise everyday. Simply speaking all the people in DB looks very down and most of them have the kua lan face.
And in DB, if you kua lan with the officers or what, then you will be sentence to a dark cell in which there will be no light at all, except a door that is locked from outside most of the time. If you get sentenced into this cell, then good luck to you, cause its usually 3-7 days. You will only sleep inside, no exercise nothing at all for you. Whole day inside that cell, excpt for 15 mintues a day in which you come out to empty your potty and bath. Yes you shit and urine into a potty. In this room, cause its brick its warm in the day and cold at night. So imagine closing your eyes 23 hours and 45 minutes every day for 7 days. TORTURE!!!!
And if I never remember wrongly, going to DB is equivalent to go to jail/prison. You will have a mark!!!
Why I know all these?? Because I went to DB before (as a visitor)..
Originally posted by TERMINATOR3000:HNMMMM................PARAGRAPH 24......AS A RESERVIST.......TO BE TREATED LIKE SHIT AND AS SOME KINDA CASH CROP BY THE ARMY FOR THE SLIGHTEST INFRACTION...IS AN INSULT TO MY CREED AS A WARRIOR!
I WONT MIND EVEN PAYING A HOUSE VISIT TO THE BASE COMMANDER AND PLAYING WITH HIM.I HOPE HE HAS A FEW HUNDRED ROUNDS OF AMMO AND HIS SIDEARM AT HOME.
MY OIC MAY JUST GET A BLACK EYE AND MISSING ARM.
An insult to your creed as a warrior?
LOL!
i think NSman awol for IPPT/ICT should be CD case, in a detention cell of 3 to 5 people. lots of yellow lines to wait at too.....
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