I am just pretty unsure about whether to go to ocs/sispec or just be a man? if i choose first option or second option, what is the advantage or disadvantage?
hmm... if i sign on ocs or sispec, will i have to serve longer than 2 year? (without reservist)
and if i just be a man...will i be tekan a lot..until buay tah han?
hmm... help me weigh my options thanks! and if u were me...which route would u take?
whether to go to ocs/sispec or just be a man
they will choose for u..
i just be a man...will i be tekan a lot..until buay tah han?
what is tekan to u? how much u can tahan then is buay tahan? this Q cannot reply u.
btw..be it man...officer or commander... u still will be ' tekan' lei..
Be officer better. Get high pay and a free sword and can takan other people.
Easier to sign on as a officer also
Originally posted by franz mavrick:I am just pretty unsure about whether to go to ocs/sispec or just be a man? if i choose first option or second option, what is the advantage or disadvantage?
hmm... if i sign on ocs or sispec, will i have to serve longer than 2 year? (without reservist)
and if i just be a man...will i be tekan a lot..until buay tah han?
hmm... help me weigh my options thanks! and if u were me...which route would u take?
If you choose to sign on, the duration depends on ur contract and your reservice starts after your contract ends or you choose to end it prematurely. Contracts differ among the vocations but are at least 4-10 yrs so obviously you serve longer than 2 yrs.
If you mean to express interest in command sch and NOT sign on to army then your NS is still the same duration regardless whether you officer, spec or men.
Being a men or a commander obviously have their pros and cons. Besides salary, the level of responsibilities, the type of experiences you will gain will all differ and alot depends on your own personality etc.
Before a commander graduates from command sch with their commander rank, they have to go through alot of tekanning etc and its not a smooth sailing path without suffering. Being a men could be tougher or less tough compared to being a commander alot depending on ur own attitude and how you treat your peers and commanders.
Most people have ORD being a men and most went through all the tekanning etc so surely its bearable. If your attitude does not cause any problems, being a men also won't make you be tekan too badly.
Originally posted by jacknife:Be officer better. Get high pay and a free sword and can takan other people.
Easier to sign on as a officer also
If ur purpose of being an officer is so that you can tekan ur men, ur mentality is unlikely to get you far into OCS if you can even qualify for it and even if you do get ur officer rank, u will not get any respect from ur men nor have a good working relationship with the people you are working with.
Originally posted by dkcx:If ur purpose of being an officer is so that you can tekan ur men, ur mentality is unlikely to get you far into OCS if you can even qualify for it and even if you do get ur officer rank, u will not get any respect from ur men nor have a good working relationship with the people you are working with.
well the majority of officers and specs like to takan their men. That is how the army works.
Originally posted by SGporkz:whether to go to ocs/sispec or just be a man
they will choose for u..
hmm... well u can chiong till go ocs/sispec... or u can slack till just be a man... so 80% of time u can choose i guess...
i just be a man...will i be tekan a lot..until buay tah han?
what is tekan to u? how much u can tahan then is buay tahan? this Q cannot reply u.
btw..be it man...officer or commander... u still will be ' tekan' lei..
for me...the sky is a limit...no lah...i mean just dont tekan until i cry...
yea...u will still be tekan... but being a man, yr rank lower u kena tekan more... or am i wrong?
yea we dontknow how much u can take before u start crying..
...rank lower of cos get bully more(hmm..can be true n not really also.)
just a EG.. 1 same mistake men 1 extra..commander 3 extra.. officer 7 extra..
but commander..u still tio from ur csm.. officer.. and officer also tio from their 2IC/OC
so..very hard to say 1 lei... on your part.. just make sure u do the right things at the right time.. n u should be fine..
Originally posted by SGporkz:yea we dontknow how much u can take before u start crying..
...rank lower of cos get bully more(hmm..can be true n not really also.)
just a EG.. 1 same mistake men 1 extra..commander 3 extra.. officer 7 extra..
but commander..u still tio from ur csm.. officer.. and officer also tio from their 2IC/OC
so..very hard to say 1 lei... on your part.. just make sure u do the right things at the right time.. n u should be fine..
what is EG?
and who is csm? and 2!C/OC?
and what is 1 same mistake men 1 extra..commander 3 extra.. officer 7 extra..?
i thought yr men do wrong...then kena punish...u mean officer also have to punish himself too?
Originally posted by jacknife:
well the majority of officers and specs like to takan their men. That is how the army works.
If you did nothing wrong, its rare that u will be tekan often for no good reason. If you have a fucked up attitude then u deserve to be tekan all the time.
Originally posted by franz mavrick:what is EG?
and who is csm? and 2!C/OC?
and what is 1 same mistake men 1 extra..commander 3 extra.. officer 7 extra..?
i thought yr men do wrong...then kena punish...u mean officer also have to punish himself too?
U haven't enlisted yet ah... Ask all the basic questions that all RECs should already know.
EG = example
CSM = Company sergeant major, 2IC = 2nd in charge, OC = Officer Commanding. The 3 guys with the biggest say in a company.
Extra means punishment mostly in the form of guard duty.
An officer will be punish by his superior and not himself.
u can get to ocs 1st anot
of cos lei..everyone who did something wrong.. has to be punish what... appointment higher..the punishment heavier lor..
so... u say men commander officer.. which 1 better? many pro n cons..
Originally posted by gigabyte14:u can get to ocs 1st anot
i not sure...but i think should be can if i put my heart and my mind into it.... from what i heard about ocs...u need ippt, jc/poly edu, interest and pass soc or sth?
Originally posted by franz mavrick:i not sure...but i think should be can if i put my heart and my mind into it.... from what i heard about ocs...u need ippt, jc/poly edu, interest and pass soc or sth?
Its easy to say, not so easy to do. U need leadership potential, perform well in SIT Test and have ur commander's recommendations with good peer review.
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tell me
u sec sch wat stream
study poly jc or ite
good results in poly jc or ite anot
then i'll predict where u will go
cos, before u go bmt, ur future is already decided liao
Originally posted by gigabyte14:k
tell me
u sec sch wat stream
study poly jc or ite
good results in poly jc or ite anot
then i'll predict where u will go
cos, before u go bmt, ur future is already decided liao
JC intake so shld be JC student
Anyway, u doing wat in army now after u OOT from BMT?
hmmm....i heard many ppl say u have to be enthu, very on... and wayang...blah blah blah... to get ocs. (source: from forum threads)
u sure yr prediction accurate? hmmm... i come from jc deh. results average bah.
Giga in service not even 1 yr. I doubt he can predict anything proper but for that matter, noone can predict what will happen to u during the 4 months in tekong :p
Originally posted by dkcx:JC intake so shld be JC student
Anyway, u doing wat in army now after u OOT from BMT?
lol...i still holding pink i/c... but i planning my ns strategy now...
My days as man fun leh...as a CPL, I get to teach 3SG, 2SG, 1SG
And later when I was 3SG, I get to tekan the ptes and LCP and CPLs ahahahaha
If u want, be an officer .. or be a man ... dun be something in the middle
Originally posted by franz mavrick:lol...i still holding pink i/c... but i planning my ns strategy now...
The 2nd part of the question if for giga not u
Originally posted by dkcx:JC intake so shld be JC student
Anyway, u doing wat in army now after u OOT from BMT?
lol
i know abit la
i storeman now btw
jc high chance of command school, but they also look in ur cca
if got like leader or chairman of something something, means command sch liao
if all normal normal like jc, but cca normal member only all these
means is man
u can also choose 1 la
what i can say is, pia for officer, officer need to get silver ippt at least
if cant, then get man, dun get sispec, very gan kor 1
what is bad about sispec...or "something in the middle"?