Oh.. I am back again.. haha.. dun mind me.. I visited [http://www.mindef.gov.sg/scholarship/lsa_universities.asp] and the universities they supply is to NUS, NTU and SMU.. For engineering courses like me of course is NUS or NTU.. but but one BIG let down.. NUS and NTU!!! My GPA is only 2.32.. will I be able to qualify for it? I hope whoever in charge of me wun laugh.. =((
Nope, your GPA is too low since you need about 3.0 at least to enter local uni and thats for the less popular courses.
oh my god.. I am not even qualify for a lowest tier studies award... How to get captain rank fast like tat? =(((
to goat:
after hearin ya bitchin bout yer life n hard times...im convince that you could be an INSECT,AN INSANE MAN OR a wild ANIMAL.
no sane person would ever take your views to heart.i hope u arent eating yer underwear n typin at the same time because yer comments really sound like one!iof course u arent a military man.....ya no better than a common thief with such attitude .
so u wanna sign on?
then u must have love for the country........not use the military to get academic degrees.in that case u might as well save up n get yer own degree but yer marriage will be on hold!i have knowledge that might be benewficial to your present situation.
however my sources are not from a friend friends relative n relative of a friend thing.it is direct from my friend so ...............just sign on if u need the cash n love the military.forget bout gloater who probably is typin from his prison cell or the other guy who wants academic excellence when doing hand to hand combat.
they are impractical...if they were my men....i would have shot them for wasting my time.
just do what a real soldier from a real military would irregardless of vocation.
Originally posted by SGcommando:Oh.. I am back again.. haha.. dun mind me.. I visited [http://www.mindef.gov.sg/scholarship/lsa_universities.asp] and the universities they supply is to NUS, NTU and SMU.. For engineering courses like me of course is NUS or NTU.. but but one BIG let down.. NUS and NTU!!! My GPA is only 2.32.. will I be able to qualify for it? I hope whoever in charge of me wun laugh.. =((
You do not need to sign on with a degree or the LSA. The SAF did not state that non graduates cannot sign on as officers. To tell you the truth, if you intend to be serious about your SAF career (and not have a just stay until I can marry my gf mindset), there is no difference at all between you signing on as you are now, and you signing on with LSA. LSA people do not progress any better or faster than non graduates. In fact since you are signing on as a CDO officer, I'm quite sure you will end up earning more than the LSA non CDO officers haahahah. sad (for them, not you) but true..other than the face-value hollow CPT 1 yr after graduation, LSA people do not progress and have not shown historically to progress any further than non graduate officers.
Originally posted by teraexa:Time off to study is dependent on your unit commander's approval and that is as good as zilch.
If you get LSA, you will be paid $9000 annual allowance in addition to your tuition fees being covered. You will not be paid regular salary during the course of your study though.
Oh btw, you don't get stuck as LTA for 4 to 5 years as an LSA. You will get your CPT within 6 months after returning from your studies. I believe Gloater is well-versed with that.
As for Terminator, I think his Caps Lock button is stuck. Time to junk that keyboard eh?
Please wake up. It's not LSA, its ALL degree holders get CPT ONE YEAR (not six months) after they graduate, including those who join the SAF after they do their degree on their own. You think your farmer LSA is such a big fark? SAFOS 1 yr you can 6 months? Hahahahaha my stomach aches.. from the laughing
Originally posted by jus-tea:
No no no i didn't mean it tat way man=) I'm just saying you won't qualify for a SMS/SAS. hahah. Read the website. It tells you that they give an allowance and pay for your tuition fees. and as gloater said, u'll be conferred the rank of cpt by the time u grad. Kudos to u for finding the right girl then. congrats.
SAS is not the same rung as SMS (although I wouldn't take either), as the way you put it "SMS/SAS". SAS is on same par as LSA. SAS/LSA are not much different. It is MTA that is same rung as SMS. It should be SMS/MTA and LSA/SAS. Go check it out in army website yourself.
SMS/MTA salary, allowance (salary is monthly salary of a A level/Diploma 2LT/LTA paid out every month, during my time only $2.6K+ thereabout, now is more.., allowance is given out every month. The allowance is given out monthly, about $2.5K a month, about $30k a year.)
SAS got salary, no allowance. Those who take this up and try to go overseas are poor church mice abroad. LOL. LSA no salary, but got token ANNUAL allowance. it's only given out once a yr = $9k.
Originally posted by jus-tea:Gloater, ST tech, Keppel and SIA eng are "govt linked" so I might not know as much. But it's definitely not the case in the private sector. Just like how BGs/MGs/LG will never ever get positions as MDs and directors of a private company. hahahah=)
i was thinking about what you said here over a cig today and i thought it funny, even audibly chuckled a bit, i'd say it ranks as the most sour line spouted here, trumping the close second by a bus fan named sbst275 i think is more like they think your 'private company' is too shrimpy for their consideration bah? hahahah =)
Guys, please don't quarrel.
Question, for 2LT allowance, how much is it after self cpf deduction? And what amount are paid to my bank account? I heard before government got give bonus every month?
Gloaterback.. thx for ur reply again... I hope I did not cause some arguement here.. =)) but anyway thx for ur input again.. and I know I can sign on as officer as a dip holder.. but just afraid I might progress slow.. haha.. CPT rank is the part I am worrying.. other than that I dun mind progressing slow.. =)) cheerios!
Originally posted by Agenda:Guys, please don't quarrel.
Question, for 2LT allowance, how much is it after self cpf deduction? And what amount are paid to my bank account? I heard before government got give bonus every month?
What vocation do you plan to sign on as?
Originally posted by SGcommando:Gloaterback.. thx for ur reply again... I hope I did not cause some arguement here.. =)) but anyway thx for ur input again.. and I know I can sign on as officer as a dip holder.. but just afraid I might progress slow.. haha.. CPT rank is the part I am worrying.. other than that I dun mind progressing slow.. =)) cheerios!
Seriously as a dip holder signing on as a officer, your progress will be slow especially if you got to compete with all the scholars out there. But advice to you is, try to get a degree when u sign on study part time.....it's help may not be a lot but it will.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:What vocation do you plan to sign on as?
ocs? vocation as in specialty? not too sure but I would prefer something with alot of mini battles kinda stuffs
Originally posted by Agenda:Guys, please don't quarrel.
Question, for 2LT allowance, how much is it after self cpf deduction? And what amount are paid to my bank account? I heard before government got give bonus every month?
Er ok that time as a WSO(C3) 2LT, it's around $ 2000+ but less than $2100. CPF contribution is 15%.
As for gloater, I am speechless. I did NOT say that ONLY LSA holders get CPT after their degree studies. Please go scrutinise my statement again. Anyway, LSA do get CPT within 6 months because they are considered having gone through the 6 mths or so of pro term training. All degree holders will get their CPT within 6 months upon completion of their vocational training. That's why graduate officers' scheme people get it 1 year because they have their 9 months of OCS to go through. SAFOS will get it after their vocational training which lasts for at least 6 months?
Don't kid me about this promotion thing. I just read the directive that day. It states there clearly that "all officers with degree qualification will be promoted to CPT within 6 months upon completion of their training or return from studies under LSA."
You are a foreign university graduate, so be it. Don't try to smoke your way with this though. You are obviously not in touch with the recent directives unless of course, you are working with MINDEF.
TO SGCOMMANDO:
IVE OBSERVED U LONG ENOUGH............DONT SIGN ON.
U HAVE MADE POOR JUDGEMENT FROM START TO END.U DONT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES.SORRY TO TELL U THIS OUTRIGHT....I KNOW IT HURTS BUT U HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER WAY INSTEAD OF THE MILITARY TRYING TO BE AN OFFICER WITH NO MATERIAL IN U.
I AM HARSH TO U NOW IN ORDER TO SAVE THE FUTURE UNLUCKY PEOPLE THAT MAY BE ON YER WING!
TO AGENDA:
U ARE WISE.....DO AS U WISH.
UNDER YOUR WING
Ter
u r right, ppl who 1 to be CPT to marry gf shld not apply.
ppl who wants to use army to get degree shld not apply.
Spore do not these type of ocifer to protect us and leads our young to hell.
Ter yr pt is direct to core, young turks watch too much rambo n not even dare kill chicken.
Dear Ter, its not wat u say, its how u say it. Chill bro.
People, I hope u all are not mistaken once again.. I always wanted to have a
career in the force since young.. and now i am coming of age.. I am very proud to be selected as CDO.. Like I said earlier on.. Interest is interest.. Money is money.. Money come 1st in Singapore.. Something like dancing.. U have to learn a lot and do very well in dancing to earn good.. Thats the reason many Singaporean do it as a hobby.. please get my point.. I am NOT only using the force to earn good money and apply for Unis.. Is for my interest too.. Am I suppose to bring home 2k as a specialist every month just because of my interest itself? Wont that be very selfish to my GF and the family next time? oh btw.. U dun wanna know wad kind of background my GF is..
To add on.. I am definitely not some young tucks who watch too much Rambo and wanna be Hero.. I love the great outdoor.. and definitely want something more than just 9-5 job..
?its a democratic world......sign on or dun sign on........your deal.just dont regret it.
Terminator.. yea.. I am just asking how does the sign on thing works and also how long will I take to get a CPT rank and wanna give a self intro of my interest.. but u gave me a lot of caps... so here I am explaining again..
if u want money at 3k......open yer own business now tonight!website business instead of waitin till u grow old.
u want cpt rank fer what?there are many people who dun speak much english and dont even have half decent education overseas who earn over 3k/mth close to 4k/mth in normal jobs at age 18 .
its up to u to find it thru determination.
Do ur BMT, then post to unit, experience ur unit life. If you can accept that kind of life than go ahead, I am saying be it u are so called "born to be soldier", "I love Sg", "interest" or "want money only" type.
Be it watever type of person you are, life inside SAF can be fustrating because most things that you are going to experience has nothing to do with actual soldiering and common sense just sometimes thrown out of the window, you can be doing something that you know is down right stupid and ridiculous (and sometimes morally wrong) BUT you have NO CHOICE but to do it. Regardless you like it or not.
Be wise, experience first, sign on liao is for next 10 years, if u find it sucks, still ok, 2 years nia. Just dun sign on liao then u find it sucks, u lan lan LPPL inside and wait long long.