good luck
i want to research on how different colours of lightstick can be made and i have been doing this since 2 months ago. as for that 4 boxes of lightsticks, i intended to bring them home since red lightsticks are abit unstable with the chemical inside and i dont want to risk doing with them.
good luck to u dude pary hard tat they dun tell tat Ho huat ming
They can say its dangerous,blah blah blah.
Originally posted by raynjy:i want to research on how different colours of lightstick can be made and i have been doing this since 2 months ago. as for that 4 boxes of lightsticks, i intended to bring them home since red lightsticks are abit unstable with the chemical inside and i dont want to risk doing with them.
sounds interesting. so what have you found out? Why is the red one "unstable"? How was it "unstable" and what chemical did you add to it to make it "unstable"?
How was it different from the green, yellow and blue one in terms of chemical composition?
What is your conclusion so far after 2 months of study? How can they be made?
Oh. By the way, you said that you found that the chemical in red is unstable. that means the other colours are ok and they are in your camp? Then its easy. Show them your test results and evidence of test being conducted.... you know, those empty cartriges of lightsticks, your bunkmate must have seen you do the experiment etc etc
Originally posted by raynjy:MP found lightsticks in my bag when I booked out today. All I know is I am doomed for sure. No matter how i explain to them, they are not convinced. I explained to them that I bought them from beach road and just to do some science experiment in camp during free time, now that my company is under lull period. How how how???
Kind fellow NSmen / sgforumers. I need advice from you. Please..
bo bian... MP is like that de... I am MP.. you are doom for sure..
But let me teach ya a trick. Tell your OC first. Let your OC punish you first. Sign some extras first. Once you have been punished once, you cannot be punished the second time. If you wait and wait, the MP take action, you kanna charged, then go for the wat trial (i forgotten the name), and worst is 7 days DB. Trust me, act fast and you would be fine, explain to your OC, PS, PC, CSM.
DB is not nice lor, its several of you in a small cell, well I shall not explain how DB is, since you most probably would not be going there.
Suggest you honestly tell your PC or OC first about it and see what can they do for you?
Originally posted by LoVeMeLoVeMenOt:Suggest you honestly tell your PC or OC first about it and see what can they do for you?
Yes, I would agree with that too.
And I don't recall buying lightsticks being an offence, as long as they are not ex-SAF stock.
I just hope those that you bought were not ex-SAF stock so that when they check the NSN number or whatever number, it will clear your name. And you probably have heard of people being charged for stealing lightsticks. I thought you should be more aware of such risks. Hope they'll be kind on you and let this be a cheap lesson.
If things dun work out? Bring parents into the picture.
you conduct experiments and no one knows? if not, they can testify what...
wat happened if he told them he was conducting experiments that was unauthorised?
think there was a case in raynjy unit < 1 yr ago where a serviceman brought out pyrothenics and got caught at clarke quake or boat quay by the police.
doubt yr punishment will be worst that his bah...............
Originally posted by Chelzea:think there was a case in raynjy unit < 1 yr ago where a serviceman brought out pyrothenics and got caught at clarke quake or boat quay by the police.
doubt yr punishment will be worst that his bah...............
that is mild. try the case of bringing out m16...
sounds interesting. so what have you found out? Why is the red one "unstable"? How was it "unstable" and what chemical did you add to it to make it "unstable"?
How was it different from the green, yellow and blue one in terms of chemical composition?
What is your conclusion so far after 2 months of study? How can they be made?
untill I have a satisfactory answer to these questions from TS, I have my reserve... although he does have my sympathy. You know the solgan. "You can do anything, but don't get caught."
My advice. Come clean. If you had stolen them, tell your PC you have done it and you are sorry.
At most it will be SOL. Stealing will never be a DB case, but stealing and refusing to cooperate in investigation is a case that is much more serious.
If you are really clean, then prepare a letter, stating very clearly, when you bought them, where you bought them, why you bought them and the various tests that you have conducted so far with all your findings, data, records, notes, research materials, equipment and resources used. If you have all these ready, and the experiment that you conducted is not against any SOP then you should be fine. Again, if you cant produce a good answer to the questions stated above, then you better own up. People are paid huge salaries to become prosecutors. Their questions are tougher than mine. Unless its a fact, sooner or later you'll have to confess.
Originally posted by Chelzea:think there was a case in raynjy unit < 1 yr ago where a serviceman brought out pyrothenics and got caught at clarke quake or boat quay by the police.
doubt yr punishment will be worst that his bah...............
yea i was in tat unit too kana call back on 9 aug -_- i wonder wat happend to tat 3 dude
look at the brighter side, i was caught sleeping in the bung during guard duty by MP CSM and i got 3 extra weekend duty as punishment
if u did not steal it, go explain to your csm first and go to the stall that u bought to get evidence, like a receipt
So, did you steal them? Lightstick also cannot afford meh?
I sincerely thank you all for ur concern and advice. My csm already know about this and he told me he will qns me. I shall just briefly tell u wat happen from the time i bought the lightstick to the time i got caught.
1. searched the net for info on where i can buy the cheapest lightstick (curious about lightsticks)
2. bought lightstick from beach road at 70cents each (transaction with no receipt & couldnt remember which store since the place is so messy- like a maze)
3. brought in to camp the following week (at that time i thought saf things that can be bought outside, can be brought in/out of camp)
4. i thought it would be wise to some online research on the safety of experimenting & the basic properties of the chemicals in the lightstick
5. got some info on the unstability of red lightstick, so i decided to discard all red lightsticks from my experiment
6. started my experiment out of curiousity on the other 3 colours (not any professional researches with test tubes or scientific equipment in place)
7. gave up the experiment bcos of too little findings and futile efforts and found that it is capital intensive to keep buying lightstick and just experiment on them (thought of importance to save up for university education)
8. brought the remaining red lightsticks home. and that was how & when i got caught.
if you were an MP, you stopped someone and intercepted a bunch of light sticks ....
and the fellow tells you he's planning to do some science experiments in camp .... what does that look like to you, seriously ? ....
i did not tell them i was planning to do experiment and in fact i had already stopped the experiment (that was why i decided to bring them home). i just answered them that I bought the lightsticks from beach road. After that they noted down the NSN number, held the lightsticks in custody & informed my csm. that was all.
I think it's best to go and find out which shop they were bought from.
At least you could give the shop number... And if the NSN number was really from ex-SAF stock they sourced elsewhere, the blame could be shifted away from you... And if the number is not from ex-SAF stock, nothing will happen.
Can't really blame the MP though; he was just doing his job.
to eagle,
what do you mean by ex-saf stock?
means someone somehow take it out, and then sell to beach road for a reduced price for them to sell to u at a higher price