salla6ue
09-03-2008, 11:40 PM
do u have official medical report on ur condition? if yes then go to ur medical officer and endorse the report and request for a medical board to downgrade...
RIP: PTE Foo Wei Rong Joe 30 Sep 08
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Originally posted by Chelzea:
dont come talk cock lah. liddat u cant procreate la. make sure u dont have Sex k. cos later u die of hear attack.
fyi, i'm a pes b.and read more abt cardiac prob b4 u comment. POP isn't a big fuk anyway
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Originally posted by FBI:
fyi, i'm a pes b.and read more abt cardiac prob b4 u comment. POP isn't a big fuk anyway
yah POP isnt big fuk . ORD is. 2 mths to ORD
chill mate. ORD LO.why shld i read more abt cardiac prob, ur e 1 who claim u cant do vigorous exercise mah.
so sexual interxoiurse ish OUT.
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Shit man, Joe Foo, he's my ex-classmate in PHS.
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Well...whats new?Things happen already say investigate...MC also ask u carry on.What to do? I already mentioned this sometime back here: http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/331037 No point crying over spilt milk...I'm not asking SAF to cut training and be slack with NS. I'm saying is yes...train us. Be realistic but keep a look out between realism and tekan/torture.But as always...instructors like to compare..."During my time...blah blah!" so yeah...mebbe his instructors can go and tell his parents the same line.
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wah lan eh, got mc already, then ambulance tio accident...
knn, how suay can you be.
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Full—time NSman who died was granted 3—day medical leave
SINGAPORE: 20—year—old Private Joe Foo Wei Rong who died at Lim Chu Kang Camp on Tuesday morning had been given three days of medical leave on Sunday for a hamstring strain.
Relatives and friends learnt of this as they paid their last respects to the full—time National Serviceman at the Ubi Teochew Parlour on Wednesday afternoon.
Private Foo collapsed while doing chin—ups at Lim Chu Kang camp. The Ministry of Defence said he was brought to hospital where he died shortly after.
It’s learnt that Mindef is investigating why Private Foo was training while on medical leave.
Private Foo will be cremated at Mandai Crematorium on Thursday morning.
Many remember him as an athletic young man who liked to play basketball.
Clifton Seah, the cousin of Private Foo, said: "I’m very shocked. He was a fine young man. My brother was on the phone with him barely 12 hours before he died. It’s a great loss." — CNA/vm
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MC on sunday?
call COS and stay home.
MC for hamstring sounds more like excuse RBJ, run jump march.
technically, he should participate in none RBJ exercise.
but if serious case, like attend C case, than he should just stay home.
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mo like to over rule what hospital dr issued
in terms of mc
sometimes i really wonder what mo studied in NUS
dun be suprise sometime they dun even know
certian medical condition
i wonder if one day a recurit happen to be MO bro or what
and report sick..
how will he be treated
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i guess they judge case by case.
i no doctor, so no further comment
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Joe foo wei rong...a man with great aspirations and always determined to do wad he wants.Its really a great loss and i will always remember my great times spent with him.
Lets pray for him guys,may this great man rest in peace.
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
is normal one
when someone up lorry
they will say look into it
never find problem with the mo in medical centre
very easy leh
the dead will never talk liao
so blame who
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i agree...
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Originally posted by metalic_head:
Joe foo wei rong...a man with great aspirations and always determined to do wad he wants.Its really a great loss and i will always remember my great times spent with him.
Lets pray for him guys,may this great man rest in peace.
ur friend?
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Originally posted by skythewood:
MC on sunday?
call COS and stay home.
MC for hamstring sounds more like excuse RBJ, run jump march.
technically, he should participate in none RBJ exercise.
but if serious case, like attend C case, than he should just stay home.
idea lor...
i think ppl though he keng la...
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Originally posted by Rednano:
driver can kan cheong when REAL case, speeding with approval, heck the SWD device
where got swt in ambulance?
u ok or not?
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Originally posted by HO SEI BO:
RIP PTE Foo :(
LOL...thanks mr heng...
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Originally posted by Rednano:
we RIP ur friend, but pls be logic thinking.
5bx is 5bx = low risk activity.
if like that going by ur way, then might as well eating at cookhouse also need medic and doctor at cookhouse... y? risk of choking... ?have u finish serving army?
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Originally posted by lansin.party:
OCS 5BX run 3 - 3.5km in like 15 minutes. That one not shiong meh? Not tiring meh? My platoon run already always feel like throwing up, especially cause they force us to drink 500ml of water just before the run (it's enforced - they keep checking how much water we have).
Like that also no medical coverage, the nearest MO is at Pasir Laba Camp. OCS sooner or later someone going to die also, then MINDEF just cover up only...
Also I wonder how many non-death, but near-fatal cases occurs to NSmen, but is not reported in the newspapers. These cases are huge causes of concern too!
Sigh... only in Sg, young boys are sent against their will, to suffer at the hands of people who dont' really care about their welfare or lives
i agree...=D
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Be fair to the MO lah. Pulled hamstring 3days att c of course upgrade to att b one. the reason SGH give 3 days MC is most likely because the bloody houseman who attended to him could't be bothered to nicely take his time to key "excuse Running, Marching, Jumping, Lower Limbs Activeties x 3/7"
This is a fault of the general system. and face it, you do pull up u collapse. TWO BLOODY DIFFERENT STORY LEI! WTH! HE COULD BE WALKING TO THE COOKHOUSE AND COLLAPSE LAH!!!, you can't blame anyone for this. ok if we are to blame its the whole screening system! -
Originally posted by alvin-ncs:
where got swt in ambulance?
u ok or not?
err, yes SAF Ford Ambulance have the SWT in it. Due to a certain idiot speeding at 120KPH back to camp during NDP03's rehersal and got caught by the then SMA himself.
truth is when the need arise, a driver CAN go beyond 50 F**king KPH, just that the medic/VC need to write statement, the MO need to write statement, MTwarrant/MTO need to write statement -
I think Private Joe Foo Wei Rong died because of undetected medical problems and also because of management problems in the medical system since a long time ago. The most pressing problem is management problems.
1. Medical Classification Centre i.e. the 1st medical examination is to proof that you do not have disease that you claim you have, even if specialist doctors say you have the disease.National service, national responsibilities
Thursday, 19 June 2008, 9:45 am | 637 views
There is a saying in my office: the job of the Military Medicine Institute is to prove that you don’t have what you say you have. It began as a joke, based on observations that we have made during our time in Basic Military Training. Unfortunately, it seems that the statement is truer by the day.
I told my colleagues the story of a recruit in my company in Pulau Tekong. He suffered from severe flat feet. The arches of his feet would collapse after running for too long, making him highly unsuitable as a frontline soldier.
He demonstrated that he had flat foot during his medical check-up. He even went to a private specialist to confirm his condition. But he was sent for PES A/B training. It took over a month before he was officially downgraded and posted out - in the interim, he was pulled out of training and spent his days sitting in the company office and running simple errands.
Fiction? I wish. It is merely just another case of irresponsibility.
The price we pay
Every time a recruit is declared ‘Out of Training/Course’ in BMT because of a pre-existing medical condition that could have been detected but was not, he would have to be sent for the next BMT recourse that caters to his actual PES status. All the money heretofore spent on him, from food to utility bills to ammunition, would effectively be wasted - and that money comes from taxpayers’ wallets.
Pre-enlistees, too, have to bear the cost of a medical misdiagnosis. My former company mate scrambled to have a private specialist to diagnose him with flat foot, after realizing that the doctors at the Central Manpower Base would send him for PES A/B BMT. Armed with this documentation, he proved to his superiors that he should be medically downgraded, and was declared OOT from the third day.
Had he not consulted his specialist, there is a very high chance that he would have suffered feet injuries before the MMI realized its mistake. But it is absurd that he had to pay a private specialist to perform a service that a military doctor could, and ought to, have done just as competently, and for free. Private specialists charge steep prices; should a pre-enlistee with a medical condition be unable to afford a specialist, and be wrongly classified during his preliminary medical check-up, he would be in for a spell of bad luck and trouble. And the SAF would then have to pay for his treatment.
Worse still is the effect on the recruits’ health. One of my colleagues has scoliosis, curvature of the spine, and was sent for PES C BMT. The simple act of carrying his military and civilian clothing and equipment to his bunk injured his spine, and he had to be excused from carrying heavy loads. It should have been a given, considering his back problem, but nothing in the SAF seems to exist unless it is officially documented in triplicate.
A few months later, he was ordered to wear a fully loaded Load Bearing Vest to the live-firing range for nearly the whole day, further aggravating his injury. He now has to perform personal physiotherapy every other hour, courtesy of several slipped discs, and can only sleep on a waterbed because regular ones would aggravate his condition. Here, the SAF has to spend time to process his injury report - his case stretches back to December 2007, and has yet to be resolved - and determine if he was eligible for compensation. A medical board is being convened to determine if he should be downgraded to PES E9L9, the lowest grading a serviceman may get before being discharged on medical grounds. The result: even more time and money spent to rectify something that could have been prevented.
Perhaps the most debilitating of all is the effect on the morale of affected servicemen. My colleague now bears a grudge against his former commanders, refusing to refer to them without using unprintable vulgarities. Every serviceman who had had to turn to a private specialist because the military doctors have failed in their job would lose his faith in the MMI, because of that failure, and would have judged it rightly. Left unchecked, the negative attitude that emerges from each lapse would extend to embrace the SAF in its death grip. Indeed, to the disaffected, ‘SAF’ is an acronym for four words. The first two is ‘serve and’, and the last is ‘off’. I will leave you to speculate what ‘F’ means.
Should his ennui be entrenched by future incidents, the serviceman would lose any incentive to do his best while serving his National Service liability. The efficiency of his unit would then be compromised in the area he is currently responsible for, be it logistics or clerical work. From a macro perspective, compounding the negative effects of each disappointed soldier, the overall effectiveness of the SAF would be further compromised - and therefore, its ability to defend Singapore.
The price of every misdiagnosis and every act of negligence is in the currency of money, time, operational readiness, and blood. We, the people of Singapore, are the only people who can pay for it.
Duties and expectations
The military sees National Service through the paradigm of duty. The average citizen, however, sees it through the paradigm of compulsion. The SAF wants to instil a sense of loyalty in every serviceman, to have him understand that National Service is a duty imposed upon all male Singaporeans to provide for the common defence, because there are too few people to sustain an army of regular soldiers. But many Singaporeans simply see National Service as a mechanism that tears their sons, brothers, fathers, husbands and lovers away from them.
Neither side is wrong. But their perspectives are irreconcilable. The death of every serviceman attributed to a military lapse would heighten the tension between them, and eats away at the military’s core. The military, in turn, would want to play down the extent of any lapses, because it - and its political masters - have no desire to lose the public’s support, which was never significantly high to begin with. I would not be surprised if stories of cover-ups were to surface; after all, nobody, least of all a regular soldier, would want to lose face. Yet this is only a temporary solution at best. It does not at all resolve the situation.
What should be done is the recognition of responsibilities on both sides. The military must recognize that it is a public organization that is mostly staffed by people against their free will. This restriction of such a basic human right must be recompensed through a pledge of honour and professionalism, to develop each enlistee’s potential to the fullest.
In the event of a lapse, especially one so severe that it leads to death or injury, the SAF must spare no effort in investigating its cause and punishing the guilty, and it must be done as transparently as possible. The military must aim to minimise the cost of maintaining the SAF, especially the cost imposed by negligence and misdiagnoses. Nothing less will do, because the survival of the nation and the honour of the military rest on the SAF’s shoulders. It is the public’s duty to urge the government and the SAF to do so, to prevent bureaucratic inertia from suffocating the investigation, as it is the public that must bear the cost of military irresponsibility.
Recognising responsibilities
Civilians, in turn, ought to recognise that they must provide for and support the common defence. Pre-enlistees should realise that only they can defend their loved ones, because there are not and never will be enough regulars to do so for them. They should play their part by meeting the rigours of National Service - servicemen by doing their best, civilians by supporting them. The legal system assures us that anybody who chooses to renege on his national duty would be punished if caught. But it is education, public messages, and the attitude of the military towards servicemen that would influence what people truly think of National Service.
The ultimate objective of this exercise is to reduce the cost borne by the public caused by negligence and misdiagnoses. When the military recognises its responsibility and acts professionally, doctors would examine pre-enlistees more carefully, commanders would care more for their men, clerks would pay more attention to their work, and so on. The citizenry would support the military in its task, and take it to task when needed. This means less public money spent on recourses and resources, less time wasted for new postings, less blood spilt and hearts lost by trainees, and a lower chance that the SAF, should it be needed, would be found wanting.
In times of peace, sons bury their fathers. In times of war, fathers bury their sons.
Let us hope that it becomes so.
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The author wishes to remain anonymous.
2. Nowadays, the PES status you are given in medical boards is depend on your luck.
purpledragon84 response to a guy who is PES E and want PES F
1,781 posts since Sep '07 29 Jun `08, 1:41AM im so glad i completed my ns..anw, to TS, just go with the flow la.. no point fighting.. serve and fuck off.. why u go and care what they say what u cut urself and stuff..?
also, im sure ur gf's father will not want to give his daughter's hand to someone who shirks a national liability.. if u even want to siam defending ur country, what kind of assurance can u give that u will defend his daughter?
why are u so afraid of serving? are u not more afraid of this whole issue dragging for another 3 4 years down the road? all the re entry and withdraw.. and in the end, u served ur 2yrs for 4, 5 years, what's the point?
grow a pair of balls, accept the fact that u are NOT as seriously ill as the ppl who are pes F, and thank god that u aren't pes F, (because I have seen for myself ppl who r really supposed to be pes F, but like me, BMT pes C.. it's torturous just to see them do the most basic exercise until we whole platoon feel like helping him do because he really couldn't take it..)
anw, NS is not as bad as u tink it is.. who can 1st day go in and enjoy? it's all about adapting, accepting, learning.. can u do that? or are u going to shirk ur responsibilities? for now, i will believe that u are going to be a father of THREE.. are u going to adapt, accept and learn how to take care of THREE children? or are u going to push all to ur gf, or wife-to-be?
accept the fact that NS is something we lan lan have to serve one, and then set ur mind to it.. and sit ur gf tell her u wanna serve and fuck off and come back to the family business and marry her.. i do NOT believe she will say no..
u can whine, u can say everyone in the fucked up camp hates u.. u can say everyone discriminates against u, so what? do u dare to pick urself up against them? I have seen the armskote man throw away a guy's firing pin just before that guy's inspection coz he is a loser, and that guy sign like siao, i have seen blatant biaseness of superior against NSFs, but so what? they ORD, and lead normal lives.. can YOU do what others can? or are u going to escape? how long can u escape? forever?
I have given my two cents.. the choice is yours..
EAC reply to a guy who is PES E and want PES F
even a guy with multiple leg fractures when he got knocked down by a hit-and-run road traffic accident while cycling in his secondary school days, almost near healing well, occasionally walk with a slight limp in his left leg, experience numbness, and at times can't move his legs down his bed when he wake up, when ns time, get pes e9l9 permanent... and still serve and finish his 2 years vocational clerk... what do u think...
another guy with moderate lower back slipped discs, walk very slowly with pain, and occasionally wheerchair bound gets pes c9l9 permanent... another one with "2 holes in heart" also gets pes c9l9 permanent and also finished their 2 years vocational clerk...
as said by others, pes f = near death stage/ disabilities /, and in insurance/medical term, rendered significant physical disability ("medically-/physically- useless")...
examples but not limited to:
limbless (arms/legs), AIDS (HIV), severe types of cancers (advanced/late stage) [blood cancer, pancreatic cancer...etc.], cerebral palsy (spastic), blind, deaf, mute, comatose, paralysis, down syndrome, IMH certified "untreatable/uncontrolable" mental illnesses...etc.purpledragon84 reply to the guy who is PES E and wants PES F
1,781 posts since Sep '07 29 Jun `08, 11:07AM Originally posted by eac:even a guy with multiple leg fractures when he got knocked down by a hit-and-run road traffic accident while cycling in his secondary school days, almost near healing well, occasionally walk with a slight limp in his left leg, experience numbness, and at times can't move his legs down his bed when he wake up, when ns time, get pes e9l9 permanent... and still serve and finish his 2 years vocational clerk... what do u think...another guy with moderate lower back slipped discs, walk very slowly with pain, and occasionally wheerchair bound gets pes c9l9 permanent... another one with "2 holes in heart" also gets pes c9l9 permanent and also finished their 2 years vocational clerk...
as said by others, pes f = near death stage/ disabilities /, and in insurance/medical term, rendered significant physical disability ("medically-/physically- useless")...
examples but not limited to:
limbless (arms/legs), AIDS (HIV), severe types of cancers (advanced/late stage) [blood cancer, pancreatic cancer...etc.], cerebral palsy (spastic), blind, deaf, mute, comatose, paralysis, down syndrome, IMH certified "untreatable/uncontrolable" mental illnesses...etc.den my that BMT mate really should be pes F.. he is retarded.. im not insulting him, coz its really macham those kind young that time tio fever burn the brain kind.. becoz he couldn't march(those same hand same leg), he did not bathe for the whole week for 7weeks.. only when he book out the weekend then he bathe.. he doesn't know how to wash his pt kit, he was unable to powder bath himself in field camp, he cannot speak properly, and he cried and broke down and faint and whatsoever when those ah beng recruits bully him and his smart 4 never was..
but he still ord-ed..
are u worse than him?
do u want to be worse than him?
(another guy, not my platoon, he suffer from those hunchback problem, and it's so serious u can put a glass of water on his back at the shoulder blade there and he walk and it won't topple.. supposed to pes E, still pes C.. even our CSM said he poor thing, should be pes E, don't know wtf the MO thinking.. in the end? still ord..)
are u worse than him?
do u want to be worse than him?
if u are worried about the pay, why cant u tok to ur parents? it's a family business, surely money is not a problem?
3. Nowadays, the PES status you are given is depend on your luck. Even the Medical Board also does not know what they are doing
http://forums.keeptouch.net/archive/index.php/t-102040.html
matthew_200209-03-2008, 11:32 PMA few medical officers, including my superior, have asked me why I am serving the military given the nature of my medical condition. I have been told by my colleagues to get a downgrade to a PES F status, but I have no clue how to approach this. The SAF medical board has no record of anyone with my medical condition in the military and I'm the first person in the military (with my condition) to have a neurostimulator medical device needed for my daily activity.
1) Problem walking, or bending
2) I could only walk short distances
3) I'm in baseline pain (pain scale: 4-5/10) every day and every second.
Please advise.
sweetdevil10-03-2008, 01:32 AMwhy dun u just serve it ..... it just 2 years ... i am a pes e but my medical condition can be a pes f ... but i choose to serve .... i also walking problem and can't walk long and far and stand long .... everyday must walk in and out slowly even if i'm late
matthew_200210-03-2008, 10:30 AMSalla6ue: Yes I have an official medical report on this condition - 3 letters to be precise.
Sweet Devil: I dont mean to be rude here. This medical device serves as an alternative to my life activities. And I'm suffering in pain everyday. Without this device, id be in immense crippling pain, confined to a wheelchair or I may be bedridden. Furthermore, this pain im suffering from is chronic (aka. lifelong). Its something that affects my central nervous system. I just want to get back to my education which i had missed out on because of this disability. I can't bend because the leads in my spianl cord may snap or dislodge from the battery in my abdomen. Im undergoing excruciating physiotherapy to get the motor nerves on my leg working again. BTW, I dont want to inflict self-pity. I just want to do something I'm able to do in my own life, and recuperate whatever education i missed out on as a result of this disease.
salla6ue10-03-2008, 05:10 PMthen good luck to ur medical review board...
cheok_kai_weei11-03-2008, 01:36 PMbring your medical slips to your MO and ask for a downgrade. If the MO does not budge, refer to your direct superiors. Since they are asking about it, they ahould agree that you be downgraded.
homeguy11-03-2008, 07:36 PMhey,
with my experience as a MOPA, Pes F are for those life threathening medical condition or those with severe PSY problem.
MO are not so evil as to ignore a svcman with ur kind of condition.
what is your diagnosis? at most u'll be an ASA, just like me.hehhe
Path_Seeker06-04-2008, 02:44 PMsince his condition is like sweetdevil , should be able to downpes .
i also saw a limping boy at cmpb leh .
like swaying boat .
seems like hes in pain .
I also E1L9 leh .............
y sweetdevil can dun enlist , he must ?
very rare illness that no1 in singapore has how to classify ?
sweetdevil06-04-2008, 04:31 PMsince his condition is like sweetdevil , should be able to downpes .
i also saw a limping boy at cmpb leh .
like swaying boat .
seems like hes in pain .
I also E1L9 leh .............
y sweetdevil can dun enlist , he must ?
very rare illness that no1 in singapore has how to classify ?
well when i go for check up ... i already been to sg and oversea to check my problem so alreaddy got many report .. that y when the pp at cmpb check .. they asked me do i want to serve? and they can give me a 6 month time to try.. as i had nothing to do after ite ... i decided to try ns lo
Path_Seeker06-04-2008, 10:02 PMi pes E1L9 due to anxiety disorder .
already self harm this year .
sob
charged with SOL .
mathew case like more serious than u , y they let him try ?
from wad i know , wheelchair bound cant serve .
comm15-04-2008, 11:27 PMi am E9L9
you say you got batteries in your abdomen ? leads in my spinal cord ? all i can say is ******* hell how did you even go through the cmpb check up ??
please tell me because i am very curious how you can even enter army in the 1st place, but if you don't wish to tell me thats ok, no worries
matthew_200226-04-2008, 11:18 AMhey, it's official, im on forearm crutches now... and im still going to camp...
comm26-04-2008, 03:26 PMi cant believe u can pass the pre-enlistment checkup
Searcher26-04-2008, 08:19 PMjust serve.... complete NS future find job easy.
matthew_200227-04-2008, 03:37 PMit sounds easy for you searcher. In reality, it's a nightmare.
Lu5ck27-04-2008, 04:41 PMgo do a mo review
or call the saf hotline for Q&A
kaka..
simple thing oso muz ask =,=
xiaochong08-07-2008, 08:54 PMHow come u guys..maybe he really is in a great pain and really cannot serve ma. Not all ppl are healthy like us lei. We don know their situation cos we are not them.
What i suggest to TS is go show the MO ur specialist letter and tell them ur pain, discomfort, problems. Im sure they will downgrade u. Tht time my camp, 1 servicemen broke his leg, on the spot PES F go home.
Path_Seeker13-07-2008, 05:33 PMmy unit also 1 pes F .
his PULLHEEMS is 511111111
means maybe cancer , nt broken leg blah blah ,
SENS19-07-2008, 03:45 PMJust one question.....i have friend who has been downgraded to C9L2 due to loose ankle but he still need to go for outfield during ICT and do all kind of shit stuff as he was not given any specific excuses.........he was damn piss off when ppl of higher PES status were give excuses like excuse boots and get exempted from outfield......
He was asking me how to go get these kind of specific excuses....does he need to see a specialist to get a memo den can or can go straight to the MO during ICT to get it......
I am totally clueless......anyone got relevant experience to advise?
matthew22-07-2008, 05:05 PMI see your problem as genuine, but SAF screw up themselves (this is always the case ever we have SAF)
If going thru' proper channels don't solve your problems, I suggest you kick a very big fuss to catch their attention, something you can appear on the papers, gurantee you, sure successful one....
matthew_200211-09-2008, 11:33 PMOh I forgot to mention before, I have a spinal cord stimulator implanted in me. It's kinda like a pace maker, but mine is a medical device implanted in my abdomen and two lead wires attached to my spinal cord to ward off the pain signals from the misfiring effects in my brain.4. Every one is suppose to be keng king and guilty until proven innocent. "Malingering" NS Man Denied of proper medical treatment dies.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sg_Review/messages/912?xm=1&m=e&l=1
From: [email protected]
Date: Fri Oct 24, 2003 7:22 pm
Subject: "Malingering" NS Man Denied of proper medical treatment dies.
Editors word;
More atrocities uncovered. NS Man accused of malingering, denied of proper
medical treatment and finally dies.
These are not isolated incidents. In addition to direct physical and
psychological abuse, denial of proper medical treatment is also a constant
recurring feature of the Singapore Army.
Many SAF doctors merely "go through the motion" of dignosing and treating
patients, and often the results are catastrophic. These paper shuffling
bureucrats have long forgotten their professional oath as medical doctors and
replaced it with a bureucratic creed which favours career advancement in the
civil service.
Straits Times
25 Oct 2003
Family sues NUH, 6 doctors
By K.C. Vijayan
THE family of a dead full-time national serviceman is suing six
doctors and the National University Hospital (NUH), alleging that
their negligence led to his dying two days after he was admitted for
a pain in the right leg.
The six include a consultant surgeon and an orthopaedic specialist
who attended to 23-year-old Chua Ya Ta in June, 2001.
The dead man's parents, carpenter Chua Seow Cheong and housewife Tan
Hong Eng, both in their early 50s, and his sole surviving brother, Ya
Lin, 21, are behind the suit, which was filed in the Subordinate
Courts late last month.
A spokesman for the family's lawyers, Oei and Charles, said that the
firm is in the process of serving the suit.
Corporal Chua, who was a tank driver in the army, saw the doctor at
his camp on June 15, 2001, when his leg started hurting, and was
advised to go to hospital.
At NUH, he received treatment and was sent home.
But less than three hours later, he returned to the hospital
complaining of pain and a fever that came and went, and was admitted.
In the next two days, despite suffering from the pain, he was accused
by two of the doctors of malingering 'to avoid his army training'.
In fact, the morning after he was admitted, his girlfriend, IT
administrator Gladys Seow, also 23 then, was told by a nurse that the
hospital wanted to discharge Cpl Chua and was handed a bill for the
medical charges.
He was not discharged as by then, he had difficulties standing
without assistance.
At about noon, he fainted in the hospital toilet while showering.
There was also blood in his stool.
His condition worsened and at about 3pm the day after, he was given
oxygen because he had difficulty breathing.
By this time, his fingers, toes and face had also turned slightly
blue.
Distressed, his uncle, businessman Chua Kok Poon, who was visiting
his nephew then, asked that he be transferred to another hospital.
At about 5pm, he received a note from a doctor assuring him that Cpl
Chua was in stable condition and not in 'clinical danger'.
He was later transferred to the intensive care unit, where he died at
11.10pm of an acute bacterial infection.
The suit alleges that NUH doctors failed to take sufficient steps to
diagnose the infection and prescribe early treatment.
Contacted on Thursday, an NUH spokesman said that the hospital had
referred the case to the coroner in 2001 and had cooperated fully in
the investigation.
She added that the hospital has always kept the lines of
communication with the family open.
'We also offered them grief counselling, as well as our fullest
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MINDEF's investigations have discovered Private (PTE) Foo Wei Rong Joe's medical certificate in his personal cupboard in his bunk. The Singapore General Hospital medical certificate dated 28 Sep was for "sprains and strains of knee and leg". PTE Foo was to rest from 28 to 29 Sep and given only light duties from 30 Sep to 3 Oct. The medical centre had no documentation of his medical certificate.
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Originally posted by snk86:
err, yes SAF Ford Ambulance have the SWT in it. Due to a certain idiot speeding at 120KPH back to camp during NDP03's rehersal and got caught by the then SMA himself.
truth is when the need arise, a driver CAN go beyond 50 F**king KPH, just that the medic/VC need to write statement, the MO need to write statement, MTwarrant/MTO need to write statement
hmmmm...true...but now days all the SWT are not working lei...
even the new landrovers can run at 140kph...
meaning no use...
and its just a statement only ma...
few words...ic no, rank name...
diff mei?
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i think what's important here is that he kept his MC instead of presenting it. there's this stigma among soldiers is you got mc you chao keng, esp among the more garang ones.
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Just come back and haunt SAF if you suffer any injustice
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does he get promoted to LTA?