hi ppl, i seriously need all the guys hlp, i was wondering if i could take my degree first for about 2yrs before enlisting to army, i'm 18 this yr, jus got graduated from MDIS and would lke to futher my study...any hlp and advise would be great..thank you so much in advance..cheers
dont think u can defer anymore. my friend told me people who want to go uni scared go army. cause anything wrong u do inside kena charge, u cant enter uni. so u better take care of urself in army. dont do anything stupid. just Serve And Fug off.
today Strait times got an article abt a 18 years old want to defer also kenna turn down.
nope you can't do that. I think there was a similar case in today's or yesterday's papers. This kid decided to matric immediately after his A-levels. Now he's being forced to enlist just before his exam. Request for deferment was rejected.
Right now the official stand is that deferment for studies is only allowed up till the A-Level standard. Anything other than that, you have to clear your NS first.
Not a chance.
MINDEF's stance is very clear on this; you need to clear NS first before you can matriculate.
And if I may ask.... why do you want to clear your degree first?
can..my coursemate is a degree holder.
cannot. unless u go overseas when u were younger and your parents pay the 65k or 75k bond, forget which is the exact amount.
Originally posted by nil_305:hi ppl, i seriously need all the guys hlp, i was wondering if i could take my degree first for about 2yrs before enlisting to army, i'm 18 this yr, jus got graduated from MDIS and would lke to futher my study...any hlp and advise would be great..thank you so much in advance..cheers
private edu no chance la.. if u were away when u r 15 or so at least still can pay more bond to study overseas... jz guaiguai go serve 1st...
Originally posted by stellazio:can..my coursemate is a degree holder.
maybe ur classmate went overseas very early?
go army first better la...
If go uni first and then go army, you think you can pay for your school loans?
hey guys thanks for your advise and comments...well de reason i want to go get my degree 1st is because i'm havin some family prob, well my parents agree on me takin a degree first, jus wanna get out of here at de moment and take my degree...hey guys just a random question wad if i migrate nw is tad ok?
wtf family problem u have that requires u to take ur degree now? will it be solved once u finish your course? or you need some time to settle your family problem? dont be a wuss and migrate lah, just serve your 2 yrs.
well the other option is to go for a sex change.
hahaha, damn i ever thought of changing sex man, but it was a random thought lol..well yea i hve de minimum requirement to take a degree there, well my mum's a foreigner so if i migrate now will i hve a better chance to migrate??
Originally posted by nil_305:hahaha, damn i ever thought of changing sex man, but it was a random thought lol..well yea i hve de minimum requirement to take a degree there, well my mum's a foreigner so if i migrate now will i hve a better chance to migrate??
seriously can you just serve your ns? i am also 18 and going in on sept 11 which is 30 days from now. Nothing to scared of , i am also a private student , i already plan to take my degree overseas after my ns. Come on dude , time to be a man , dun throw year 1990 face man.
Originally posted by nil_305:hahaha, damn i ever thought of changing sex man, but it was a random thought lol..well yea i hve de minimum requirement to take a degree there, well my mum's a foreigner so if i migrate now will i hve a better chance to migrate??
go out of country now and dont ever ever come back... even if on transit flight in/out changi airport also will be detained, prosecuted, fine, cane and resort stay at changi prison.
resentment u really suay sia, honesly i dun mind goin ns early if my family situation improve, but nw since hvin tis porb i rather go overseas, nt i tryin to be ahqua or wad but i jus dun knw wad to do nw, well i'll try callin cmpb 2moro whether they agree a nt i will post it back here...thx guys for everything :)
nil, forget it. confirm cannot.
Originally posted by nil_305:hi ppl, i seriously need all the guys hlp, i was wondering if i could take my degree first for about 2yrs before enlisting to army, i'm 18 this yr, jus got graduated from MDIS and would lke to futher my study...any hlp and advise would be great..thank you so much in advance..cheers
unless u medical/dentistry at nus, then can disrupt...
just fcuking enlist, after bmt, after vocation course, only when post to unit, can apply for approval from unit manpower branch to grant time off for night time part time studies for stay in.
if u stay out, just go for classes. but if got duties or whatsoever, ns comes 1st... if suay suay got outfield for days and ur exam clashes... then jolly well ask officer can or not, but reminder... ns duties comes 1st when u r a NSF...
Originally posted by nil_305:resentment u really suay sia, honesly i dun mind goin ns early if my family situation improve, but nw since hvin tis porb i rather go overseas, nt i tryin to be ahqua or wad but i jus dun knw wad to do nw, well i'll try callin cmpb 2moro whether they agree a nt i will post it back here...thx guys for everything :)
call for fcuk... they got standard answer one...
"thank you for your suggestion. however......"
hey red nano, can i migrate instead of runnin to other country..if i run away tad would make me a fugitive and a illegal immigrant, wads more i wont hve a citizen here and which ever country i'm in...if i migrate at least gt one citizenship still can find a job n stuff..if nt i go there lke no use lei...hw man can i migrate nw? am i too late?
hope to hear from you soon man
hahaha, well man, i really do hope to get out of here for the time being...why singapore so fcuk ah mus hve ns, sometime i rather be a grl no need to serve...hey red nano i appreciate everything man ur comment an etc... thx, owe u one... :)
Originally posted by nil_305:hey red nano, can i migrate instead of runnin to other country..if i run away tad would make me a fugitive and a illegal immigrant, wads more i wont hve a citizen here and which ever country i'm in...if i migrate at least gt one citizenship still can find a job n stuff..if nt i go there lke no use lei...hw man can i migrate nw? am i too late?
hope to hear from you soon man
too late "dude"... take it like a man...
the ICA's intergrated entry/exit clearance system can pick up some ns liability details...
e.g. NS status can be:
1. registered but yet to serve.
2. called up but deferred for IHL.
3. serving full time.
4. completed.
...etc.
so ur application will get rejected almost high chance.
and like i said, now go apply for exit permit, fcuk out of the country and dont ever come back or u get rotan with honey + buttered asre.
Originally posted by nil_305:hey red nano, can i migrate instead of runnin to other country..if i run away tad would make me a fugitive and a illegal immigrant, wads more i wont hve a citizen here and which ever country i'm in...if i migrate at least gt one citizenship still can find a job n stuff..if nt i go there lke no use lei...hw man can i migrate nw? am i too late?
hope to hear from you soon man
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Originally posted by nil_305:hi ppl, i seriously need all the guys hlp, i was wondering if i could take my degree first for about 2yrs before enlisting to army, i'm 18 this yr, jus got graduated from MDIS and would lke to futher my study...any hlp and advise would be great..thank you so much in advance..cheers
Source: www.mindef.gov.sg
Reply by Minister Teo Chee Hean to Parliamentary Questions on Deferment
Posted: 21 Jul 2008, 1935 hours (Time is GMT +8 hours)
Minister for Defence Teo Chee Hean.
Mr Speaker, Sir, let me first explain the basis of our deferment policy.
Under the Enlistment Act, NS-liable males can be called up for NS as soon as they turn 18 years of age. There is a reason for this enlistment age. The SAF must be able to maintain a credible defence force for our security and survival. Given our small population, national servicemen form the backbone of the SAF. We train them to become soldiers and leaders in their 2 years of full-time NS and they continue to play these critical roles during their operationally ready service. For many, this means they are required to serve up to at least age 30. By enlisting them at around 18 years of age, we optimise the ability of the SAF to fulfil its missions with an energetic and able-bodied defence force.
Despite the legislated enlistment age, MINDEF exercises flexibility by granting deferment from full-time NS for pre-enlistees pursuing their studies under certain circumstances. In determining our policy, MINDEF applies the key principles of universality and equity to ensure that everyone is given the opportunity to attain an 'A' levels, international baccalaureate, or polytechnic diploma or equivalent qualifications before enlistment.
MINDEF therefore grants deferment for pre-enlistees to gain their basic educational qualifications of up to 'A' levels, polytechnic diploma, international baccalaureate or equivalent qualifications. This is reasonable as most of our NS-liable males would either have completed or are completing their basic educational qualifications when they turn 18 years of age. NS-liable males are therefore enlisted at the earliest opportunity after turning 18 or when they have finished such courses, whichever is later. As university degrees are considered higher educational qualifications, deferments for university studies will not be allowed. This will strike an appropriate balance as our NS liable males will be given the opportunity to complete the basic qualification at 'A' levels, polytechnic diploma or equivalent, and be enlisted for military training while they are young and fit.
Educational opportunities in Singapore have increased over the past years. There has been a proliferation of private institutions and courses offered. Some of these private institutions offer to admit students directly into their undergraduate programmes upon the completion of their 'O' levels without them having to first attain 'A' levels or diploma qualifications. Some NS-liable males have enrolled for such undergraduate programmes upon the completion of their 'O' levels before they turned age 18. They subsequently asked to be deferred to complete their university studies or their semester examinations before enlisting. Mr Yeo has asked whether MINDEF can exercise some flexibility by allowing such students in private institutions to defer till their end-of-semester examinations.
Sir, MINDEF does not allow deferment for university studies, regardless of whether the deferment is for part of or the entire duration of the undergraduate course. Allowing such students deferment would be unfair to the vast majority of their peers studying in Junior Colleges, Polytechnics and other institutions, who do not have the same opportunity to be deferred for their university studies. This would also undermine our key NS principles of universality and equity. The NS system will not work if we allow individuals to choose when they would like to be enlisted. Hence, NS-liable males who commence their university studies before their enlistment would be enlisted at the first opportunity after age 18. They will have to disrupt their university studies as they will not be granted deferment.
In line with the above, MINDEF has stopped granting deferment for university studies since the end of 2005. This change to our deferment policy was announced during the Committee of Supply in 2006. Our deferment policy can be found on the NS Portal on the internet and in the information package that is sent to all NS-liable males when they turn 16 1/2 years of age. MINDEF has also informed major private institutions of our deferment policies and has more recently requested them to remind their potential students at the point of application that deferment will not be granted for university studies. For the minority who complete their basic educational qualifications before age 18, they can apply for early enlistment if they are above age 16 1/2 under the Voluntary Early Enlistment Scheme. This will enable them to enlist slightly earlier and complete their full-time NS before proceeding for university studies.