fail pilot interview
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What to do? fail pilot interview means have to wait a long period of time liao. its like such a short affair and i can actually fail it when i heard the failure rate of interviews are quite low. damn it la! wasting time again, shud i gif them a call to know more abt my current situation?
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It wouldnt hurt calling them up to confirm your doubts. After all the information they can render you with are far more reliable then what this forum mates can.
Also, theres really not much time wasted, I don't see the difference between the two, its either you get signed now, or after your BMT. Do note that those who get signed now do not mean that they go for air-grading immediately after their BMT. Of course thats the ideal arrangement, but do keep in mind the schedule conflicts that might occur in their system.
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yeah true. lots of waiting time and admin stuff to be sorted out too.
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i feel that there will be a little time wasted if everything goes smoothly coz if i get the chance to go for a 2nd attempt on interview plus the medical, everything will take damn slow to process my reapplication. i may reapply if i get into OCS and they may take at least 1 mth to ask me for another interview if possible. if hopefully i pass with the 2nd attempt, the medical results will be out earliest by 2.5 mths. so i definitely see a little loss of time though i cant reali gauge the amount lost...
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You will be serving OCS by then should you qualify for the second interview. Since serving the OCS is a must for pilots, wheres the time wasted?
Its time to get the facts right. Call the RO.
To be more straightforward, imo, by the end of the day, the only difference between getting signed now or later, is that you will feel better if your signed now. Probably, everyone will feel the same (putting the consideration of salaries aside).
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true. i seriously hope there's no time wasted. the only thing i'm gonna stress over is how i'm gonna perform for the next interview if i ever get it. hey vincent, u r currently waiting for your pilot interview izit? u were at which poly?
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Yeah. Ngee Ann.
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Originally posted by Cdo & Pilot:
i can definitely say i like flying a lot and has set my sights on a career with RSAF. its the interview today tt i feel i said something wrongly and they started to bombard mi with qns abt my days in yfc. my last sortie was a complicated one and was unable to make to 1st solo. i feel just i wasted this chance and its damn sayang la. tt recruitment officer ask mi to get into OCS and re-apply again, i dun even noe wat he means by tt. how can i hav gd performance in OCS so as to reapply? coz he say get into OCS and reapply so i assume tt if i'm posted to OCS den i will reapply immediately?
ahh... yeah! flying is very fun! but being a military pilot is totally different! ask urself will u be able to take the office politics, playing of ranks n seniority, strict regimentation n being on standby wif disruption to ur life? sign on if ur ans is yes.anyway, 1 advice for u, if u managed to get into OCS, apply asap when once u get in during common term, otherwise they will not be able to release u to air force once u commence on ur training. oh yah, if u r in commando, then it's different liao, i dunno wat's the SOP of handling pilot trainees for commando cadets in OCS but i do noe abt infantry (personal experience). once u get ur 2nd white bar, u have to finish ur whole OCS training b4 going over to air wing. however, if u managed to secure a place in air force when u r in common term, then u will be going over to air wing to get ur 2nd bar.
the above r my own personal experience in 2004, the way i got into air force was rather different due to administrative lapse, i applied b4 BMT, then completed BMT, SISPEC BSLC, SISPEC ASLC n was recommended to go to OCS as an infantry cadet but i rejected it cos i noe i will be going over to air force n didnt want to waste time in OCS. so i went over to air force sch only after completing my SISPEC ASLC n i was already into the 10th month of my national service back then.
a typical career path for a pilot trainee will be... BMT --> Air Force Sch --> Airgrading
mine was... BMT --> SISPEC BSLC --> SISPEC ASLC --> Lobo for 1 mth --> Air Force Sch
hmm... btw, care to shed more light on ur interview? interested to noe how come u failed ur interview. i rem i screwed up my interview, cos i was rather low profile during my sec sch n poly days n they said they were looking for outstanding characters so i told them honestly i wasnt outstanding at all. at the end of the interview, i tot i failed but the person-in-charge told me i got thru!
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Originally posted by tetsumi:
ahh... yeah! flying is very fun! but being a military pilot is totally different! ask urself will u be able to take the office politics, playing of ranks n seniority, strict regimentation n being on standby wif disruption to ur life? sign on if ur ans is yes.anyway, 1 advice for u, if u managed to get into OCS, apply asap when once u get in during common term, otherwise they will not be able to release u to air force once u commence on ur training. oh yah, if u r in commando, then it's different liao, i dunno wat's the SOP of handling pilot trainees for commando cadets in OCS but i do noe abt infantry (personal experience). once u get ur 2nd white bar, u have to finish ur whole OCS training b4 going over to air wing. however, if u managed to secure a place in air force when u r in common term, then u will be going over to air wing to get ur 2nd bar.
the above r my own personal experience in 2004, the way i got into air force was rather different due to administrative lapse, i applied b4 BMT, then completed BMT, SISPEC BSLC, SISPEC ASLC n was recommended to go to OCS as an infantry cadet but i rejected it cos i noe i will be going over to air force n didnt want to waste time in OCS. so i went over to air force sch only after completing my SISPEC ASLC n i was already into the 10th month of my national service back then.
a typical career path for a pilot trainee will be... BMT --> Air Force Sch --> Airgrading
mine was... BMT --> SISPEC BSLC --> SISPEC ASLC --> Lobo for 1 mth --> Air Force Sch
hmm... btw, care to shed more light on ur interview? interested to noe how come u failed ur interview. i rem i screwed up my interview, cos i was rather low profile during my sec sch n poly days n they said they were looking for outstanding characters so i told them honestly i wasnt outstanding at all. at the end of the interview, i tot i failed but the person-in-charge told me i got thru!
so you're flying with the rsaf now? 4 years liao...should be cat D right?
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DEEP IN THE BATTLEFIELD COVERED IN BLOOD
LIES AN AIRBORNE RANGER DYING IN MUD
HE FOUGHT TO KEEP SINGAPORE FREE
FOR SOLDIERS LIKE YOU AND ME
THOSE SILVER WINGS ON HIS CHEST
TELLS SINGAPORE HE'S ONE OF THE BEST
AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
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Originally posted by Saf4life:
DEEP IN THE BATTLEFIELD COVERED IN BLOOD
LIES AN AIRBORNE RANGER DYING IN MUD
HE FOUGHT TO KEEP SINGAPORE FREE
FOR SOLDIERS LIKE YOU AND ME
THOSE SILVER WINGS ON HIS CHEST
TELLS SINGAPORE HE'S ONE OF THE BEST
AIRBORNE RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!
why don't u consider joining the CDOs instead of infantry? you keep promoting them instead of your unit. damn what leh.
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if im nt wrong, CDO is only possible to join if dey drafted you there, u cant sign on unless you were frm the mono intake right?
if not i would have signed on to the CDOs
but Infantry is as good, just that i dont know can be ranger or nt
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Originally posted by tetsumi:
ahh... yeah! flying is very fun! but being a military pilot is totally different! ask urself will u be able to take the office politics, playing of ranks n seniority, strict regimentation n being on standby wif disruption to ur life? sign on if ur ans is yes.anyway, 1 advice for u, if u managed to get into OCS, apply asap when once u get in during common term, otherwise they will not be able to release u to air force once u commence on ur training. oh yah, if u r in commando, then it's different liao, i dunno wat's the SOP of handling pilot trainees for commando cadets in OCS but i do noe abt infantry (personal experience). once u get ur 2nd white bar, u have to finish ur whole OCS training b4 going over to air wing. however, if u managed to secure a place in air force when u r in common term, then u will be going over to air wing to get ur 2nd bar.
the above r my own personal experience in 2004, the way i got into air force was rather different due to administrative lapse, i applied b4 BMT, then completed BMT, SISPEC BSLC, SISPEC ASLC n was recommended to go to OCS as an infantry cadet but i rejected it cos i noe i will be going over to air force n didnt want to waste time in OCS. so i went over to air force sch only after completing my SISPEC ASLC n i was already into the 10th month of my national service back then.
a typical career path for a pilot trainee will be... BMT --> Air Force Sch --> Airgrading
mine was... BMT --> SISPEC BSLC --> SISPEC ASLC --> Lobo for 1 mth --> Air Force Sch
hmm... btw, care to shed more light on ur interview? interested to noe how come u failed ur interview. i rem i screwed up my interview, cos i was rather low profile during my sec sch n poly days n they said they were looking for outstanding characters so i told them honestly i wasnt outstanding at all. at the end of the interview, i tot i failed but the person-in-charge told me i got thru!
you sound like a guy in my sqn, if i'm not wrong he also wasted 10 months of his NS before going to AFS.
are u in plab fighter sqn by any chance?
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Originally posted by Saf4life:
if im nt wrong, CDO is only possible to join if dey drafted you there, u cant sign on unless you were frm the mono intake right?
if not i would have signed on to the CDOs
but Infantry is as good, just that i dont know can be ranger or nt
nobody in singapore becomes a ranger. they juz earn the tab and confidence tt comes along with it. zzz. and you can apply to be a commando regular, u will go for training and u may/may not get ur red beret. its that simple. dunnid to be drafted la. infantry isn't as good. you dun get to be airborne. =) heliborne at most. if your passion is be a seriously garang madman SOF...den why waste your time in the infantry? -
Originally posted by del_co:
nobody in singapore becomes a ranger. they juz earn the tab and confidence tt comes along with it. zzz. and you can apply to be a commando regular, u will go for training and u may/may not get ur red beret. its that simple. dunnid to be drafted la. infantry isn't as good. you dun get to be airborne. =) heliborne at most. if your passion is be a seriously garang madman SOF...den why waste your time in the infantry?
but i alrdy signed on as an infantry officer, cant change alrdy right? or is it possible? -
Originally posted by del_co:
nobody in singapore becomes a ranger. they juz earn the tab and confidence tt comes along with it. zzz. and you can apply to be a commando regular, u will go for training and u may/may not get ur red beret. its that simple. dunnid to be drafted la. infantry isn't as good. you dun get to be airborne. =) heliborne at most. if your passion is be a seriously garang madman SOF...den why waste your time in the infantry?You can't apply to be a commando. CDO and NDU only recruits through mono-intake, no VA letter - no chance, period.
Remember, CMPB hotline is your friend.
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Originally posted by Vincentshughart:
You can't apply to be a commando. CDO and NDU only recruits through mono-intake, no VA letter - no chance, period.
Remember, CMPB hotline is your friend.
you try going to www.armycareers.gov.sg den u click 'apply now'. see got commando option anot. if you are signing on, you can choose where to go. the only thing is tt you are subjected to whether they want u or not. if you are juz nsf-ing, you can't. and infantry officers can convert to cdo officers, but they haf to go thru some shit 1st. CMPB hotline is nth if you wanna sign on. the force of your choice has a recruitment centre of its own. you shld call that number to enquire. NDU also can apply. Navy website got such an application. if not...how do they maintain regulars? ppl who wanna join doesn't necessarily get VA-ed do they? like SAF can read ppls' mind. i noe alot of fit guys from dragonboat who are into ndu/cdo, but they didnt get VA-ed...so how? cannot fulfil their dream of serving the nation as a regular in a path dreaded by many? the SAF will surely welcome them with open arms, no point closing the door on such ppl especially when they are mentally prepared and physically fit. no many ppl who do their nsf in cdo/ndu will stay on as regular you noe? so where we get regulars...thru ppl who apply for it. besides what cdo regulars do are very different from nsf cdos. -
Originally posted by del_co:
you try going to www.armycareers.gov.sg den u click 'apply now'. see got commando option anot. if you are signing on, you can choose where to go. the only thing is tt you are subjected to whether they want u or not. if you are juz nsf-ing, you can't. and infantry officers can convert to cdo officers, but they haf to go thru some shit 1st. CMPB hotline is nth if you wanna sign on. the force of your choice has a recruitment centre of its own. you shld call that number to enquire. NDU also can apply. Navy website got such an application. if not...how do they maintain regulars? ppl who wanna join doesn't necessarily get VA-ed do they? like SAF can read ppls' mind. i noe alot of fit guys from dragonboat who are into ndu/cdo, but they didnt get VA-ed...so how? cannot fulfil their dream of serving the nation as a regular in a path dreaded by many? the SAF will surely welcome them with open arms, no point closing the door on such ppl especially when they are mentally prepared and physically fit. no many ppl who do their nsf in cdo/ndu will stay on as regular you noe? so where we get regulars...thru ppl who apply for it. besides what cdo regulars do are very different from nsf cdos.You call cmpb, you get directed to the relevant departments who are in the best position to attend to your queries.
And, Oh, if anyone happens to become a regular commando through the saf application page, may be he can share his experience with this forum.
Because after few enquries, the answer below is what I've got
: NSmen can only join the commandos through mono-intake, you can not apply to become a commando for your NS.
: You can not sign on to become a commando regular during your NS days, if you have not been chosen for the mono-intake.
: Those who have completed their NS liability may apply to become a commando, then. "Case by case".
Go on, correct me if my information are horribly wrong. -
Go OCS lar. If you are good, you will definitely make it.
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hey tetsu, i got seriously bombarded by them la. i juz found out i said sumtink wrongly leh. blardy hell! they ask mi abt my yfc experience and y i didnt go for 1st solo since i made it into phase 2. actually was coz of my poor performance on the last sortie then i said coz of external factors like weather which was actually reasons for the sorties before my last 1. i was confused and mixed it up and tot i was telling the truth when in fact i'm actually lying unknowningly. tt's y they tot i was lying and the colonel juz said to mi,"are you sure? we are looking for honest officers..." once i heard this, i knew i screwed my interview liao. the truth abt the interview is tt be as honest as possible, they reali dun care how outstanding you are, they believe honesty is the best policy!
u got any advice and tips of me never mind abt your interview being in 2004?
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Originally posted by Vincentshughart:
You call cmpb, you get directed to the relevant departments who are in the best position to attend to your queries.
And, Oh, if anyone happens to become a regular commando through the saf application page, may be he can share his experience with this forum.
Because after few enquries, the answer below is what I've got
: NSmen can only join the commandos through mono-intake, you can not apply to become a commando for your NS.
: You can not sign on to become a commando regular during your NS days, if you have not been chosen for the mono-intake.
: Those who have completed their NS liability may apply to become a commando, then. "Case by case".
Go on, correct me if my information are horribly wrong.
where you got your info from? cmpb? yeah ultimately you still can apply to be a cdo. -_-are you going for the pilot interview soon?
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Originally posted by Saf4life:
but i alrdy signed on as an infantry officer, cant change alrdy right? or is it possible?can, ask for a transfer.
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tetsumi..
can i ask you what a FEP trainee does? just got posted there today and reporting to AFRC on mon..
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thanks for the info, i'm leaving for Starlight tml @ 0800, will talk to my S1 abt this matter once i return
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