operational units
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juz like to confirm this...
i always tot for a real op like the searching of mas selamat kastari, only those units which have turned operational can be deployed. can those nsf units which have not turn operational be deploy as well? i'm kinda worried coz my bro juz got into his current unit after his bmt. but apparently there are news that they will join in the hunt as well.
anyone??
moderator, feel free to delete this if you find it sensitive. thanks
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to my knowledge if u are in service, be it be NSmen or NSF, u still have to serve when call upon. Gov will not activate NSmen back for search unless necessary because they have to compensate Nsmen pay..
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hi thanks. so the rules have changed since.. coz when i was serving, the protocol is only turned ops unit will be deployed.
i'm not talking abt nsmen here, since nsmen units are already deemed operational.
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That's why NSFs do standbys & mob mannings, sir.
I believe 3 GDS, the khaki BN who got activated, is already operational. Accordingly to one blogger, they were on 4NTM when the call came in. FYI All combat-ops outfits are 4NTM (4-hour Notice to Movement), while the elite ones like CDO, GDS, NDU & certain SCE elements can also 2NTM.
This activation appears more of a standard than an urgent one: they were activated rather late (supposedly at 1 am, when the news had already been televised) & only to serve as a perimeter force (the actual hunting was done by the SOFs & Gurkhas). Back in 2004 when those armed robbers sought refuge at Tekong, I understand the 4TM units activated then had their NSFs bring their rifles along to help lock down the place.
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last time i talk abt 2ntm on my blog, i kana fine $150 by my country. so sad. So now i learn to shut up on the Internet. even when i really feel like rebuking what most of you guys have so confidently said here abt the ongoing search for MSK...which might i add, is mostly inaccurate bull.
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perhaps some questions to ponder over:
1. what is the meaning of "turning ops"? turning ops to do what?
2. so, do we need to "turn ops" (defined as it is currently, as what most of us understand it to be), in order to conduct such or similar ops?
3. exactly what roles are our soldiers playing in such ops, and specifically, during this search?
4. hence exactly what skills and knowledge do we need to equip our soldiers in order to conduct such ops?
as we all know this search has been going on for quite some time. there is probably a need to consider factors like sustainability, sanity (of the soldiers doing the ops), safety and of cos, skills needed, in deciding who to call upon.
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my question is, what's the difference between "turning ops" and ORD, which means Operationally Ready Date?
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well ... turn ops means getting the beret ....
ORD means getting freedom ? ...
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Originally posted by Hellraiza:
my question is, what's the difference between "turning ops" and ORD, which means Operationally Ready Date?
oh.. haha... well. i think by turning ops, the common understanding is when an in-service personnel successfully completes a series of training, rendering him "operational"; on the other hand, by ORD, it really means the date when an NSF completes his NSF liability. erm... i have to think abit to understand why it is then called "operationally ready". in the past it used to be ROD (run-out date) but i guess it didnt sound too nice (machiam expiry date) hence they changed it. -
Oh my memory when unit turn ops, lots of weekend burn.