My Reservait..
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I am going for my high key reservaist soon..
The procedure is to take no pay leave from the company and than submit a make up pay claim form to mindef and they will pay you back 2 weeks of salary..
I am thinking of taking 2 weeks of annual leave since I have enough annual leave to go for reservaists and than to claim back make up pay from mindef
In that way I will get my salary from the company and also get another 2 week salary from mindef
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Contradiction. if it's "no pay leave", how to "get salary" from employer then?Skali LPPL both front & back: get charged AND lose your job.
Don't forget, it's a 3-way relationship, the third link being your firm's own dealings & legal obligations with the SAF. The NS portal allows bosses to track their employees' call-up details; I know, cuz I use it. http://www.ns.sg/nsPortal/appmanager/nsp/default?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=nsPortal_NSPAYE_ABT&nsp_community=EMPLOYERS -
makeup pay from mindef is submitted via employer la. you go ict your employer sure know one. how to take no pay leave then, brudder?
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I mean I am on good terms with my boss so I am thinking of telling my boss that I take 2 weeks of annual leave and than ask him to help me to submit make up pay to mindef..Originally posted by blitzonic:Contradiction. if it's "no pay leave", how to "get salary" from employer then?Skali LPPL both front & back: get charged AND lose your job.
Don't forget, it's a 3-way relationship, the third link being your firm's own dealings & legal obligations with the SAF. The NS portal allows bosses to track their employees' call-up details; I know, cuz I use it. http://www.ns.sg/nsPortal/appmanager/nsp/default?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=nsPortal_NSPAYE_ABT&nsp_community=EMPLOYERS
He sure say ok 1 cos I am on good terms with him.. -
Hello friend. If during your so call 'annual leave' period and you got injured while during ICT, many parties will be invloved. Including MOM. Dun play play.
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why the fcuk do u wan to cheat the SAF?
reservist summore, you ought to be ashamed of yourselff -
And not to forget that you may not be able to claim any medical claims under your company coz you got yourself injured while you are wif SAF.
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You can go on annual paid leave, and continue to get your salary from your company.
MINDEF will pay you only the rank pay, so that will be very little.
So your company cannot make any claims.
But in total, you do get a little bit more.
This should be acceptable. About injuries compensation, your SAF100 should suffice if you are injured during training. Your company need not get involved. -
then u very honest very clean very holy very noble?Originally posted by infantry:why the fcuk do u wan to cheat the SAF?
reservist summore, you ought to be ashamed of yourselff -
Aiyoh, what is wrong huh?Originally posted by yimkim:I mean I am on good terms with my boss so I am thinking of telling my boss that I take 2 weeks of annual leave and than ask him to help me to submit make up pay to mindef..
He sure say ok 1 cos I am on good terms with him..
Going for Annual ICT is NEVER part of your annual leave anyway. All companies are supposed to cooperate with SAF to allow soldiers back. The company has to pay you! Unless it is explicitly stated in your employment terms and conditions.
And your annual leaves are still intact. So you can still apply for leave.
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For some pple this is their only way to clear their annual leave otherwise also forfeit cos no chance to clear due to heavy work load, I used to take leave for for low key training the 1 to 2 days kind , looking back it was very silly , I mean why work so hard for the company when they pay me 2k a month only
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I mean I am on good terms with my boss so I am thinking of telling my boss that I take 2 weeks of annual leave and than ask him to help me to submit make up pay to mindef..
Hmm, 1st-time ICT? Your proposal entails submitting the SAF 28 form on your own, except your boss must declare in Part II of the application that he won't be paying you (i.e. stating his name, company appointment, signature, company address, company stamp & company CPF number.) He & you shall keep a duplicate copy, in addition to the original submission to the paymaster. You sure he'll agree to be in cahoots with you, in scamming the Govt?
He sure say ok 1 cos I am on good terms with him..
As Koolkool pointed out, the "extra" money you'll looking forward to shall only be your service pay too. Back when I was doing reservist while in NUS, one week's ICT equals only about $100 (which I could've earned in just 2 days of part-time work). Not worth it.makeup pay from mindef is submitted via employer la. you go ict your employer sure know one.
I think it was theoretically possible, in the old days. But such ploys are flawed cuz they always leave a paper trail, & the law can also be applied retroactively (like the recent tax evasion case involving the AMK curry puff guy).
What you make in mind is only one of the ways of settling reservist pay: continue receiving your pay, & leaving it to your HR department to reclaim the amount from Mindef. There's 4 other means I can think of, one of which I thought could've been the T/S's situation. The first is the SAF 28 form, for people like contract workers, I guess. The second is the SAF 29 form, for the self-employed.
Another is to submit both forms, as mentioned in the Reservist booklet & the MUP folder issued out, which I imagine is for those who're working a second job (either at night, on weekends/annual leave or as a freelancer). The SAF will reimburse, I reckon, provided there's proper notarization & certification of the job details, wage payment structures (for each of the last 6 months'), etc. Take need, though, they can be so ngeow that you must separate writing out any allowances (& also why they differ in amount or were discontinued). The problem here is, instead, getting into trouble with your boss if your job contract prohibits or requires permission first to moonlight on the side. Last time can take cover, but now the boss can easily check the submitted info at the NS portal.
The last way is not to submit any MUP & be resigned to getting service pay, like for university students. -
Please la, SAF sux. Treat pple like cheap labour. ORD still waste time on reservist.Originally posted by infantry:why the fcuk do u wan to cheat the SAF?
reservist summore, you ought to be ashamed of yourselff -
Originally posted by Spartans:Please la, SAF sux. Treat pple like cheap labour. ORD still waste time on reservist.
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who will win.. the spartan? or the infantry that can fight 100 men??Originally posted by Spartans:Please la, SAF sux. Treat pple like cheap labour. ORD still waste time on reservist.
stay tuned.... -
they mind end up killing each other whu noes...