why are YOU christian?
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Diverting from my question, aren't you? And do you know that there are many people who can't prove that God is fake ?
and there are also many people who cant prove that god is real. coz God cannot appear infront of anyone, or should i say he doesnt appear at all
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Who created Science ? Isn't it human ? No human is perfect, that is why there is something responsible for us.
Someday, even the science that we know MAY even be fake, nothing is certain.Do you know that people are using scientific reasons to prove that God is not real ?
hmmm...
i don't think "science" itself is "created"... it comes from the latin word "scientia" which means knowledge. i think science, itself, is a means, and not the end to all "secrets"
folks have known to use science to fake things, eg, the Korean scientists who faked the cloning thing, no different from religious folks faking things too.
on the flip side, people are also using scientific experiments to prove God exist.
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
there are verses that discriminates against certain type of people. looks like u should gain more knowledge on ur own religion 1st. And there are verses contradicting to the other verses. go look it up.
Seems to me that whenever u or happyinfo2 loses in an argument both of u come up with the same phrase. hahaOh Lord, pls let King be enlighten when he see these
God cares so much for the "handicapped" (which includes you and me - none is "without blemish") that He payed the ultimate price. He gave everything that we might all be healed forever, forgiven and made new, and have the ability to come "boldly before the throne of grace to find help in time of need. (Heb 4:16)"
So, don't become overly concerned when skeptics talk about the "evil" God of the Bible. God knows what He is doing. Not every passage of Scripture is easy to understand, but with a little thought and homework, many of the difficulties can be resolved. -
Originally posted by ƒlame:
Once again, another baseless allegation.
Aleast know something about the bible before you complain.
The entire Old Testament sacrificial system was a foreshadowing of the atonement and cleansing power of Jesus. The many offerings were preparation for the One Offering that would finally atone for the "sins of the world." Just as the animals presented had to be, without exception, spotless, the ones offering them needed to demonstrate some kind of "blemishless purity" as well. When God established this law, He was forever engraving in the minds of His people the need for absolute purity where atonement was concerned. Only the Perfect Man could atone for the sins of all men everywhere.
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Does this verse prove that the Old Testament is endorsed by the new?
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
last post.
Now u say the sources can be real or fake. make up ur mind.On the contrary, I am using your own words if you ever get it.
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Actually from what I observed, all the sources referenced and collected at wikipedia.
Although sources can be real or fake.
nonetheless, one should refer to wiki with care. it makes good reading, but one always need to cross reference .... many times for credibility -
Originally posted by ƒlame:
Did he said : My pastor is 100% .
You know by what you are thinking, I can also said Sgforum Kings is saying that his friends is 100% correct that Christians are fake
Now he proved why I said he is making baseless allegations and telling lies again....
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Oh Lord, pls let King be enlighten when he see these
God cares so much for the "handicapped" (which includes you and me - none is "without blemish") that He payed the ultimate price. He gave everything that we might all be healed forever, forgiven and made new, and have the ability to come "boldly before the throne of grace to find help in time of need. (Heb 4:16)"
So, don't become overly concerned when skeptics talk about the "evil" God of the Bible. God knows what He is doing. Not every passage of Scripture is easy to understand, but with a little thought and homework, many of the difficulties can be resolved.However this passage seems to say that god brought the diseases onto the handicapped.
If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee -- Exodus 15:26
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
my friend did not tell me that christians are fake. he is more like an agnostic than an atheist which he claims he is. anyways, i bet if his pastor were to say "God say if u donate u are doing a good deed, donate to the church now!" he would donate, generously.
yet another baseless allegations and lies...............
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Does this verse prove that the Old Testament is endorsed by the new?
not exactly true.... the "LAW" does not refer to the entire Old testament, which comprises of historical accounts as well as philosophical musing.the Law refers to the "Law" as understood by the Hebrews Jesus was addressing (see verse 1)
... if i can have a buck for each individual who takes ONE verse and wave it around....
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Does this verse prove that the Old Testament is endorsed by the new?
God's moral and ceremonial laws were given to help people love God with all their hearts and minds. Throughout Israel's history, however, these laws had been often misquoted and misapplied. By Jesus's time, religious leaders had turned the laws into a confusing masses of rules. When Jesus talked about a new way to understand God's law, he was actually trying to bring people back to its original purpose. Jesus did not speak against the law itself, but against the abuses and excesses to which it had been subjected.
If you don't understand why Jesus do it, see John 1:17. Hopefully, my typing all these helps you.
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
Who created Science ? Isn't it human ? No human is perfect, that is why there is something responsible for us.
Someday, even the science that we know MAY even be fake, nothing is certain.Do you know that people are using scientific reasons to prove that God is not real ?
flame, sure, no human is perfect, therefore need constant questioning on science and religion. Including using scientific method to prove God. I am supportive. Use whatever method to prove something. Don't be too square on one thing.
- bible is giving more confusion than explanation, we can leave it one side.
- god or supernatural being, can we prove it ? can time tell ? nobody can see it and nobody knows how. we can leave it one side first.
That's is why all people should be open minded. Use REASON and EVIDENCE in all your action. Then probably the world will be peaceful and a nice place to live in.
yours sincerely
laffin supports Richard Dawkins Foundation in REASON and EVIDENCE.
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I wonder why God doesn't just appear since there are wars, genocides, divisions caused becos of different religions. Makes you wonder if god loves anyone at all
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Originally posted by laffin123:
flame, sure, no human is perfect, therefore need constant questioning on science and religion. Including using scientific method to prove God. I am supportive. Use whatever method to prove something. Don't be too square on one thing.
- bible is giving more confusion than explanation, we can leave it one side.
- god or supernatural being, can we prove it ? can time tell ? nobody can see it and nobody knows how. we can leave it one side first.
That's is why all people should be open minded. Use REASON and EVIDENCE in all your action. Then probably the world will be peaceful and a nice place to live in.
yours sincerely
laffin supports Richard Dawkins Foundation in REASON and EVIDENCE.
laffin, do you know that sgforum king is using the human scientific way of proving that God is not real and I'm trying to enlighten him. No offense if you even think like that at the first place
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
I wonder why God doesn't just appear since there are wars, genocides, divisions caused becos of different religions. Makes you wonder if god loves anyone at all
I can assure you that the second coming of Jesus is near, just don't lose trust and faith, if I can do it, you can do it ! If any non-believers disagree with what I said, once again, I welcome any discrimination.
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Originally posted by ƒlame:
I can assure you that the second coming of Jesus is near, just don't lose trust and faith, if I can do it, you can do it ! If any non-believers disagree with what I said, once again, I welcome any discrimination.
People have been saying that for centuries. During WWI, WWII, black plague, but life still goes on, so its quite hard to believe
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
and there are also many people who cant prove that god is real. coz God cannot appear infront of anyone, or should i say he doesnt appear at all
P.s u are either trying to become happyinfo2 or something because u didnt ask any question.Your opinion, I respect. Respect mine too please.
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Originally posted by dadeadman1337:
People have been saying that for centuries. During WWI, WWII, black plague, but life still goes on, so its quite hard to believe
Did you read Revelations, it's purpose satisfies your enquiry as it reveals the full identity of Christ and to give warning and hope to believers.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
hmmm...
i don't think "science" itself is "created"... it comes from the latin word "scientia" which means knowledge. i think science, itself, is a means, and not the end to all "secrets"
folks have known to use science to fake things, eg, the Korean scientists who faked the cloning thing, no different from religious folks faking things too.
on the flip side, people are also using scientific experiments to prove God exist.
What makes you think I'm biased to scientific experiments ?
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An advantage of human being is that they created final fantasy VII !
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
i shall ignore happyinfo2 since he always posts the same stuff. i know he will quote this and say that i dont want to answer him because i am a "liar".
I will just post the photo when my friend sends it.Yes, you proved beyond any doubts that you are a LIAR!
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Originally posted by Sgforum King:
and there are also many people who cant prove that god is real. coz God cannot appear infront of anyone, or should i say he doesnt appear at all
P.s u are either trying to become happyinfo2 or something because u didnt ask any question.
You are assuming too much :-D. You must mean God doesn't appear to you and anyone you know. -
Originally posted by Sgforum King:
Seems to me that whenever u or happyinfo2 loses in an argument both of u come up with the same phrase. hahaanother lie....since when did you win any argument with me? You never argue....you only make baseless allegations and tell lies and when confronted, lie more and divert attention......with more baseless allegations and lies....
Yes...haha
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you all should read my post in this forum earlier. my thread is the origin of religions.
humans created everything, from buildings, condos, shopping malls, planes, ships etc, you name it. even the concept of god was created by humans in the beginning.