Merry Meet HENG@,Originally posted by HENG@:sigh.
i have no choice but to do this...
Oceanos i was trying to ask u privately but u choose to ignore...
so here goes.
u are christian right? u even r mad against someone for blasphemy. so i am curious. im not christian, but i remember christianity being against pagentry, witchcraft, and all this magic stuff u seem to be very much into. so can i ask, how are you allowed to do that and claim to be so insulted by blasphemy, since what u are indulging in is also considered blasphemy? and are u actually allowed by religion to indulge in what u do at all?
Originally posted by OCEANOS:did u ever say u were on a call? u choose to give a misperception.
[b]Merry Meet HENG@,
Again i am not obliged to be at your beck & call when you like, i have my own life so has you, don't you reckon that? Do not act like an impatient child waiting for food...don't you learn how to be patient thats goes for all aspect of life including waiting for bus, mrt etc...Don't tell me you need not wait or if the Bus did'nt come...you will burn down the bus company...
When did i say i am a christian? Do not assume, assumption is roots of all "Evil"! Again Blasphemy is a noun in the vocabulary that represent certain meanings, for goodness sake its not only solely for Christianity If you do not understand wht it means...by all means buy a dictionary & check it out! Again to save the trouble for you i got you the meaning of this noun.
Definition of Blasphemy: [n] blasphemous behavior; the act of depriving something of its sacred character
[n] blasphemous language (expressing disrespect for God or for something sacred)
Again i would like to stress whatever beliefs & values is very individual! You can't be accomodating all & make all happy but the least you would do is insulting & labeling! what am i indulging? I don't even know but you can say it as if you know... Are you trying to relate to me that you are into witchcraft? If thats the case i respect you, your beliefs & religion, i will not comment anything about it coz i know the "Basis" of Human Rights! As an Individual & adult of sentient mind i am sure you know what you are doing...Well since such Injustice has been done, of coz there is a need to redress such accusations & insults( since you do like the term of "Blasphemy" ) , So what are other's view about these? Thanks for your reply, hope all these answer your queries...
Blessed Be,
Oceanos
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It's not about getting insulted just because believes are different. It's what bear said. Everyone has their rights to what they chooses to believe in, but one should not purposely insult another's believes... Critising is one thing, calling it names is another. I'll hardly think of his refering to my believes as "new age bullcrap nonsense" (quoted in exact words) as something less than an insult. He has his right to choose to not believe, but not to put down somethings and some people that does not agree with him. "your crystals and whatever charms may be nice... for a laugh... as a belief? it's yours... you can be spooky to the people around you who will treat you as some kinda nut... " You may feel that he had the right to express himself, i think though that it should have been a priviledge and not his right to comment, as his expressing himself is aimed at demeaning others. The barbs contained within his words are sadly unmistakable, though much i wish that with my (not so fantastic) command of language, I had misunderstood...Originally posted by HENG@:if i were to put it in your logic, then i should feel insulted by you and your blasphemy since u dabble in the hocus pocus and "magic" things, which are against my beliefs. so everytime u talk about it im supposed to get insulted?
i don't believe in christianity, and sometimes i do critise the things they preach or say, but thus far, no christians have accused me of blasphemy. since u say we are all free to think our own beliefs and religion, don't u think he is right to point out what he feels about what u believe in?
and i have read the mojo thread. i certainly feel that we make our own luck and opportunities. i'd darned if i let my fate be controlled by a cloth bag. now u can choose to view this as blasphemy, or u can simply view this for what it is: what i do and do not believe in.
Originally posted by En':Merry Meet En',
It's not about getting insulted just because believes are different. It's what bear said. Everyone has their rights to what they chooses to believe in, but one should not purposely insult another's believes... Critising is one thing, calling it names is another. I'll hardly think of his refering to my believes as "new age bullcrap nonsense" (quoted in exact words) as something less than an insult. He has his right to choose to not believe, but not to put down somethings and some people that does not agree with him. "your crystals and whatever charms may be nice... for a laugh... as a belief? it's yours... you can be spooky to the people around you who will treat you as some kinda nut... " You may feel that he had the right to express himself, i think though that it should have been a priviledge and not his right to comment, as his expressing himself is aimed at demeaning others. The barbs contained within his words are sadly unmistakable, though much i wish that with my (not so fantastic) command of language, I had misunderstood...
You state your view, I respect that. You expressed your own emotions, feelings and thoughts, I can see that and I honour that.
Though, i do hope you can see how your:
"i certainly feel that we make our own luck and opportunities. i'd darned if i let my fate be controlled by a cloth bag" comment differs from his:
"what disturbs me is that a bunch of people, influenced by someone selling snake oil, are willing to [b]throw away their very humanity, alienate those who care for them, for a pile of baubles and a lifestyle they know less than nothing about, to speak in a way they haven't a clue why it is spoken, to say that they are practitioners in crafts they know less than zero of?
frankly, i could not care less if you deluded yourselves..." comment
If you could see the difference between your comment and his, between your stating your view/believes and the other that seeks to fault and suppress views that does not concur with his... Then I'm sure you can understand what i am trying to express and where I'm coming from... [/b]
Merry Meet Again HENG@,Originally posted by HENG@:did u ever say u were on a call? u choose to give a misperception.
and im glad u understand the point about assumption. because im going to point it out to u now, how relavent that is to your assumption that i am "on his side" because i am not "on your side".
i think this is one very impt point that you and others, have either missed, or choosen to ignore.
as for blasphemy, u have said that u are angry at one individual for blasphemy against you. well i'd like to point out u are also blasphemising against other religions. if i were to put it in your logic, then i should feel insulted by you and your blasphemy since u dabble in the hocus pocus and "magic" things, which are against my beliefs. so everytime u talk about it im supposed to get insulted?
i don't believe in christianity, and sometimes i do critise the things they preach or say, but thus far, no christians have accused me of blasphemy. since u say we are all free to think our own beliefs and religion, don't u think he is right to point out what he feels about what u believe in?
and i have read the mojo thread. i certainly feel that we make our own luck and opportunities. i'd darned if i let my fate be controlled by a cloth bag. now u can choose to view this as blasphemy, or u can simply view this for what it is: what i do and do not believe in.