thanks for not coming on 24/3 at s11
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tat's either the lamest excuse or the stupidest way to collect "data"....
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So what do you want, a medal? We already gave you a Maroon Mouthpiece - don't get greedy!Originally posted by F.O.S:becos I am the one confirm my attendance and WJ is last minute join in, I gather 4 in total to wait for TX .
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It's a lame excuse. WJ forgot who he's trying to fool here.Originally posted by tare:tat's either the lamest excuse or the stupidest way to collect "data".... -
that sounds betterOriginally posted by Gedanken:So what do you want, a medal? We already gave you a Maroon Mouthpiece - don't get greedy!
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be it lame or stupid or watever.... least i can finished my report... i am not here to ask u all to forgive or accept me... Felt bad for having u all as 'guinea pigs' in my research. Thousand apologies.Originally posted by Gedanken:It's a lame excuse. WJ forgot who he's trying to fool here. -
Your report, huh? Fine - I want the contact details of the department for which you did the report, in particular your research ethics committee. We're going to have a lot to talk about.
Right now you're in clear violation of at least three regulations of research ethical conduct. Either you're studying at a real Mickey Mouse operation of a school where such regulations are not adhered to, or you've just given us a cock-and-bull story to weasel your way out of looking like the flaming arsehole you've been on this thread. I'm betting it's the latter.
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oh well..
patronising... is the catchword of the day huh?
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First and foremost i hv apologised for my actions. Accept or not is up to you.Originally posted by Gedanken:Your report, huh? Fine - I want the contact details of the department for which you did the report, in particular your research ethics committee. We're going to have a lot to talk about.
Don't you ever forget who you're talking to here.
Secondly, we do not know each other and i hv never been hostile to u or anybody in this thread. Is it neccessary to be so hostile?
Lastly, you hv no right to demand to see my reports on my work as i do not owe u a living. Will u kowtow to me if i am able to prove that? You can be working for the Lees as though if i really care. -
this thread proves your hostility..
we apologised and you did not accept yet would demand an apology from others?
give me a break...
oh.. the other part about ethics? ANYONE on GOD'S EARTH can demand that from you if it breaches ethics.. especially the people you "observed"..
i think the slip has dropped to around your ankles and you're dragging it around as you wander around aimlessly...Originally posted by windjammer:First and foremost i hv apologised for my actions. Accept or not is up to you.
Secondly, we do not know each other and i hv never been hostile to u or anybody in this thread. Is it neccessary to be so hostile?
Lastly, you hv no right to demand to see my reports on my work as i do not owe u a living. Will u kowtow to me if i am able to prove that? You can be working for the Lees as though if i really care. -
i demand a lock down of this thread... let it go...
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Do you have any idea what you're doing?Originally posted by windjammer:Lastly, you hv no right to demand to see my reports on my work as i do not owe u a living. Will u kowtow to me if i am able to prove that? You can be working for the Lees as though if i really care.
As participants in your experiment, we have ALL right to know what you've done, why you did it and who you did it for. This is universal SOP in all human research - if you are actually studying something or working in an area where you do research on people, this is the first thing you will have been taught. It's not a case of anybody kowtowing to you, it's a case of you taking basic responsibility for your research - a simple apology will not cut it.
You have also violated the rule of informed consent, and you have not provided any details of a debriefing agency in case of queries.
All of the above are the bare requirements of any human research. If you have not been taught any of this, you HAVE been studying in a Mickey Mouse operation that cannot even handle teaching you the basics.
I don't care about your report - it means nothing to me - I want to talk to whoever is overseeing your research, because they've done a cockamamie job of tecahing you responsible research. -
y locked?Originally posted by s|nNeD:i demand a lock down of this thread... let it go...
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You come up with some cock-and-bull story about performing research, but your story is so full of holes because you don't even know the bare basics of conducting research.
You just lied to the wrong person, windjammer - I do this kind of thing for a living and I know all the regulations like the back of my hand.
You acted like a dickhead, so at least be a man and acknowledge that - don't go insulting us by trying to sell us this "performing research" nonsense. -
Well say watever u all like. I hv already apologised and accept or not is up to u. This is the end of my message.
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You're not going to get away that easily.
There is a possibility of a legal issue here. I'm not sure how the Privacy Act is structured here, but certainly in other countries your school and perhaps your research supervisor would be up for a lawsuit. I'll check up on that. If it is, you're going DOWN. -
try let someone slap u then say sorry n c how u will feel
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no no no... hong hong the sorry must be put across this way...Originally posted by thhong22:try let someone slap u then say sorry n c how u will feel
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i've read through 6 pages and still this one point sticks in my mind
15 mins is a short span of time. one should be willing to give grace when required, cause you'll never know when you need it back.
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wah lau, sorry now den i reply again. Juz got to work and only now den got time 2 read this .....
in any case: here's 1 fact that might clear things up a bit. After I received & replied to F.O.S's initial PM WRT to his mobile number, i sent a test SMS reply, which is SOP for me to do. There was no response to my SMS which could mean 2 things;
- F.O.S received and retained number for future reference, or
- I typo-ed F.O.S's number when saving to my phonebook. hence no response.
In any case i will doublecheck with F.O.S but it's already over so let the matter rest ya? I might've been a bad host but apologies have been handed out where due.
Can't we all juz get along?
I'm here to crap & basically chill out so dun everyone get all tense n hostile over this k? Peace.
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FOS rest the matter lah... sometimes ppl meeting late, some no come... xi guan jiu hao lor....Originally posted by windjammer:gong shuo gong you li
puo shuo puo you li
you li ye jiang bu qing
FOS let this matter rest....
it's not tat easy to organise a outing. Dun tell mi U dun have friends tat always late one. Juz wait lor... N 1 other thing is tat U shd have get hold the organiser hp no mah. n call mah. Wat's the point of kpkb now? -
hehehe it sounded more like "I'm sorry but you're still a dickhead"Originally posted by tare:no no no... hong hong the sorry must be put across this way...
"I oledi say sorry, accept or not up to you."
or at least that is what i have in mind to say... kekee -
chill chill ...it's only an outing
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kaoz.. its only an outing.. ppl have already apologized n MTY ppl still start flaming.. adding fuel to the oil..
all come in wanna crap.. if possible is to make friends also..
still cant let the matter rest.. WJ n FOS have stopped commenting n u guys still come in n flame it.. wat is this??
i admit that wj n fos were partly wrong.. but since its over.. let it over..
hongx2.. u cannot mix the issue of being slapped together, its a total senerio..