Avoid THem!!!!!
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hmm me know nothing about jesus except catholic and christian
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yeah many people do not know. Even christians like me still have many things to learn but for me the most important thing for me to know is that Jesus loves us so much that He died for us in our place. If you do not know anything can always ask me, i try to answer cos i dun noe everything hehehehe or else go to a church lor and ask, i think u will get ur answers.....God will answer you.Originally posted by IamAngeline:hmm me know nothing about jesus except catholic and christian -
keke pardon me.. I'm a buddhist actually kekeOriginally posted by gasband:yeah many people do not know. Even christians like me still have many things to learn but for me the most important thing for me to know is that Jesus loves us so much that He died for us in our place. If you do not know anything can always ask me, i try to answer cos i dun noe everything hehehehe or else go to a church lor and ask, i think u will get ur answers.....God will answer you.
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hey no problems. I am full of love~~~~~ahawhhahahah.... alright feel free to comment or ask anything abt christianity or stuff or just crap...Originally posted by IamAngeline:keke pardon me.. I'm a buddhist actually keke
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so does that means going to a methodist church is the safest??
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Well Xue_ren, everybody has his own interpretation of Christianity. It is up to the person to find his own interpretation.....
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[Quote]1) Christians believe that we are justified by faith in God alone as said in Romans 3:28. But Roman Catholics believe that faith alone is not sufficent as said in Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9. [/quote]
2) We believe the bible to be the sole authoratative word of God and if anyone were to add or take away words from the bible, they will be judged by God as in Revelations. But RC believe that that the BIBLE needs to be treated equally as the TRADITION, which claimed it contains revelation to the church over the years.
3) We believe that all sins are forgiven as said in John 19:30 that the work of justification and cleansing is done completely by Jesus. But RC believes otherwise that we have to suffer in Purgatory (a doctrine unheard of in the bible) to wash away sins that were not by the death of Christ. This is a direct insult to Christ death on the cross
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1) Christians believe that we are justified by faith in God alone as said in Romans 3:28. But Roman Catholics believe that faith alone is not sufficent as said in Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9.
The church believes that faith must also come with action. If you do not show through your actions, what faith do you have. Action does not mean praying everyday but you must care for others too.2) We believe the bible to be the sole authoratative word of God and if anyone were to add or take away words from the bible, they will be judged by God as in Revelations. But RC believe that that the BIBLE needs to be treated equally as the TRADITION, which claimed it contains revelation to the church over the years.
Refer to http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm
Also, If you read John 21:25 it says "Now, there were many other things that Jesus did. If they were all written down one by one. I supposed that the whole world could not hold the books that would be written."3) We believe that all sins are forgiven as said in John 19:30 that the work of justification and cleansing is done completely by Jesus. But RC believes otherwise that we have to suffer in Purgatory (a doctrine unheard of in the bible) to wash away sins that were not by the death of Christ. This is a direct insult to Christ death on the cross.
Refer to http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12575a.htm#I -
I go to a methodist church but whether methodist or presbyterian or baptist, these are just denominations, there is a church for everyone. Denominations are not different in their major doctrines but minor differences like on how to conduct services. The comparison should not be liken to christianity vs roman catholicism.Originally posted by xUe_ReN:so does that means going to a methodist church is the safest?? -
Firstly, yes, faith must come with actions. As said in James, faith without action is dead. However, the context as what was said in James is that, When someone is truly justified, he is truly saved and regenerate. Therefore, we see the results of true saving faith as they are manifested in the changed life of the one justified by faith alone. Real faith produces good works but it isn't these works that save you. Good works are the effect of salvation, not the cause of it in any way and they certainly do not help anyone keep their salvation. It does not mean that You NEED FAITH AND WORKS to be saved, however if a person claims to have faith but yet does not show works, it is a dead faith because TRUE FAITH IN GOD will PRODUCE good works.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:
Secondly, talking about the TRADTION that was used by Roman Catholics as supposed 'REVELATIONS', let us refute this step by step.
* In Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraph 97, it states that "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture make up a single sacred deposit of the Word of God . . ." thus we can say that Roman Catholics view the bible as equal to Tradition.
* If the Holy Bible had mention that the Sacred Tradition is trustworthy, naturally it would be for us to believe. Roman Catholics claim that the Sacred TRadition is equal to the bible, therefore, it is equally inerrant.if the Bible said do not trust tradition, then Sacred Tradition would be instantly and obviously invalid. . In either case, the Scriptures hold the place of final authority and by that position, are shown to be superior to Sacred Tradition. If Sacred Tradition were really inerrant as it is said to be, then it would be equal with the Bible. But, GodÂ’s word does not say that Sacred Tradition is inerrant or inspired as it does say about itself (2 Tim. 3:16). To merely claim that Sacred Tradition is equal and in agreement with the Bible does not make it so. Furthermore, to assert that Sacred Tradition is equal to Scripture is to effectively leave the canon wide open to doctrinal addition. Since the traditions of men change, to use tradition as a determiner of spiritual truth would mean that over time new doctrines that are not in the Bible would be added and that is exactly what has happened in Catholicism with doctrines such as purgatory, praying to Mary, indulgences, etc. Furthermore, if they can use Sacred Tradition as a source for doctrines not explicit in the Bible, then why would the Mormons then be wrong for having additional revelation as well?
Thirdly, for the purgatory issue, the only verse in the BIBLE that Roman Catholics seek out to support this doctrine is "If any manÂ’s work is burned up, he shall suffer loss; but he himself shall be saved, yet so as through fire." found in 1 Cor 3:15.
The context speaks of Paul having planted the Corinthian church and that another person was building upon that work: A few verses earlier Paul says, "I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth." Paul goes on to say that unless a person builds upon the foundation of Jesus, his work will be burned up the in the day of judgment. Paul is simply using the terms that are familiar with the people of the time. Fire was the tool used to purify metals and to get rid of that which was unwanted, the dross. So too, on the day when our works are examined, the fire of judgment will both purify and remove. This will not affect our salvation, but it will affect our rewards. This is not talking about becoming saved or staying saved.
1 Cor. 3:15 does not teach purgatory as a place we go to in order to have some of our sins cleansed from us. It teaches that even though the person is justified by faith and cannot face damnation, his works will, however, be judged on "that day." Those works which are good will survive the fires of judgment the way gold, silver, and precious stones can survive fire. But false works will be consumed the way fire consumes wood, hay, and straw. What is left has no bearing on whether or not we are saved. It has to do with rewards in heaven. -
Borther, I think u got it wrong for this one...Scientology is started by Ron L. Hubbard n they believe in the alien god name ZorgOriginally posted by gasband:Scientology
STarted by Mary Eddy. Basically the name suggests that the science is a key to God. Again doctrinal differences.
They teach that God is the Father-Mother, and that Jesus was not the Christ and that Jesus did not die. THe holy spirit to them is SCIENCE, just more divine. In direct contradictions, they say that there is no devil and there is no sin. Sicknesses are not real, but only illusions and most importantly they say the sacrifice of Jesus was not sufficient to cleanse from sin. -
anglican here...
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Opps!! yeah i just realised i typed the wrong name!!! Yes Scientology was founded by Hubbard...i meant to say The Scientist Church Of Christ which is a different organisation from Scientology. Apologies.Originally posted by Sir_Horny:Borther, I think u got it wrong for this one...Scientology is started by Ron L. Hubbard n they believe in the alien god name Zorg -
juz a qn: according to christian teachings, if not christian, sure cannot go heaven?
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Technically yes. One must acknowledge God and the act of Jesus's sacrifice to receive salvation. However, it cannot be seen as a barbaric act. If you do not believe, no one forces you. God loves us enough to give us a chance...because based on good deeds alone, how many of us really qualify to go to heaven?Originally posted by piopoz:juz a qn: according to christian teachings, if not christian, sure cannot go heaven?
anybody can enlighten me?
there are many things to this. A person who acknowledges God but yet does all the bad things will be judged heavily by God. i do not know what such a person will receive, but God says when those who acknowledged Him while they are still alive, will receive judgement from God according to what he has done on earth. So even you believe in God but never do what God says, God will judge you heavily. -
so there isn't much of a choice but to believe?Originally posted by gasband:Technically yes. One must acknowledge God and the act of Jesus's sacrifice to receive salvation. However, it cannot be seen as a barbaric act. If you do not believe, no one forces you. God loves us enough to give us a chance...because based on good deeds alone, how many of us really qualify to go to heaven?
there are many things to this. A person who acknowledges God but yet does all the bad things will be judged heavily by God. i do not know what such a person will receive, but God says when those who acknowledged Him while they are still alive, will receive judgement from God according to what he has done on earth. So even you believe in God but never do what God says, God will judge you heavily.
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yes according to the bible. but if let say for an atheist who doesnt believe there's a God, then they wun care what the bible says anyway. Its your choice, if you think it is worthy of your faith, welcome. If not, its your choice again. I think thats fair isnt it? The bible is not legally binding u to anything, it is giving u a choice to decide whether you think what it is saying is true.Originally posted by piopoz:so there isn't much of a choice but to believe? -
Hmmmm.... 1 question....Who wrote the original bible
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The bible is written by many people over the decades at different points in time and in different places but all could tally one another because God spoke to them about it.
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Jehova Witnesses believe that Jesus had 3 wives and he wasn't from a virgin birth. They have strange beliefs and is very different from Christianity.
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how true is it?Originally posted by star princess:The bible is written by many people over the decades at different points in time and in different places but all could tally one another because God spoke to them about it. -
There are many ways to prove the authencity of a history document which the bible is, and these are the basic methods to authenticate history that we know of nowadays like, which emperor ruled the which empire in china etc....Originally posted by windjammer:how true is it?
Internal evidence - meaning does the document contradict itself.
For this, the bible does not contradict itself despite being written by 40 over writers over a span of 1600 years. Supposed contradictions brought up were all refuted because it was taken out of context.
External evidence - are there any other documents supporting it?
Apparently, events described in the bible were not exclusively found in the bible but even in writings of Socrates and Josephus and others.
Archaelogical evidence - things like dead sea scrolls were found and other archaelogical evidence points to authenticity of events described in the bible.
I have all these studies on paper but too long to write here hehehehe. If you wan, i can pass u a copy somehow.
HOWEVER, i must say that despite such evidences that the bible is real, I am of the great belief that FAITH is more important that all these what our eyes can see. It is what I experience after I became a christian rather than all these evidences that make me trust in God more. -
so is it also true that GOD spoke to all those who wrote the bible???
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2 Timothy 3:16 refers All scriptures being God-breathed, ie. came from God's mouth and other references describe it as being the authors wrote prohectic word as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21).
Different people with different social/political status living in different geographicl locations at era wrote consistently about a merciful God who forgives the sins of His people, all through various letters, historical accounts, prophesies and other words reveal the coming of the Messiah. These are enough to tell us that they are not mere human coincidence but originated from the same God!