Service Amendments W.E.F 27 July 2003 due to NEL
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That fast? Last night I was along AMK Ave 1 and NOTHING about Sv. 502, Sv. 501 or Sv. 512 were posted! NOTHING! Yes, there will be a THIRD rationalization after the Scheme B services.Originally posted by off_service:All the posters regarding the 2nd rationalization of bus routes along NEL had been put up.
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the bus route changes are resonable to me...except the deleted secotrs of most buses in sengkang new town and hougang. ppl will lose many links like 85 go rivervale dr. now rivervale there only left 136 and 86
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For all you know service 147 may be cut to New Bridge Rd in Phase 3 of the rationalisation exercise, then 158 may be extended to Hougang along 147's route to cover up the loss. With a mad PTC, anything goes.Originally posted by tranquilice:I wondered why service 103 is not in phase 2? (duplicate the NEL between Serangoon station and near Dhoby Ghaut station, somemore it duplicates service 147 between Serangoon station and Bras Basah Rd)
I am happy to see that service 147 is left out of phase 2, it is now an alternative to the NEL between near Dhoby Ghaut station and Serangoon station.
Yes, like what off service has mentioned, there will definately be a phase 3.
I think for the phase 3 rationalisation, it will involve services that duplicate a short stretch of the NEL. -
Yes, that is possible. Sv. 158 is a candidate to move to Hougang to cover the sector from Serangoon Central to Hougang. Expect to see a change in fleets if that is done so. However, isn't there currently Sv. 166 from C'menti to New Bridge Rd?Originally posted by SBS9819Y:For all you know service 147 may be cut to New Bridge Rd in Phase 3 of the rationalisation exercise, then 158 may be extended to Hougang along 147's route to cover up the loss. With a mad PTC, anything goes.
I agree with the last statement. The PTC does things without any further thought with regards to the commuters and travelling public as a whole, they do what they like without further consultation on how it affects commuters. So much for a "World-class" public transportation system, indeed. -
The "World Class" means world class in anyhow change...Originally posted by SBS9818A:Yes, that is possible. Sv. 158 is a candidate to move to Hougang to cover the sector from Serangoon Central to Hougang. Expect to see a change in fleets if that is done so. However, isn't there currently Sv. 166 from C'menti to New Bridge Rd?
I agree with the last statement. The PTC does things without any further thought with regards to the commuters and travelling public as a whole, they do what they like without further consultation on how it affects commuters. So much for a "World-class" public transportation system, indeed.
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i am totally shocked by the removal of 85, 97 and 111. live in hougang and now, no more buses for me to take direct to somerset or marina... damn sad... they are too fast in removing the services leh. somemore, its much more expensive to take NEL to those places... i think they should really keep at least 1 bus plying along the NEL route leh... what if one day the NEL breaks down... all take cab or they got enough bus to cater to the whole seng kang and hougang people??? damn pissed off by sbs... i think we are manipulated as usual again...
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Yes... they are too fast in removing the services.Originally posted by spyder:i am totally shocked by the removal of 85, 97 and 111. live in hougang and now, no more buses for me to take direct to somerset or marina... damn sad... they are too fast in removing the services leh. somemore, its much more expensive to take NEL to those places... i think they should really keep at least 1 bus plying along the NEL route leh... what if one day the NEL breaks down... all take cab or they got enough bus to cater to the whole seng kang and hougang people??? damn pissed off by sbs... i think we are manipulated as usual again... -
They always say they have contingency services for when the NEL breaks down but it will be a slipshod, disorganized affair. I believe they should retain ONE bus service, they can make the headways as long as they want, but it's some duplication that matters.Originally posted by spyder:i am totally shocked by the removal of 85, 97 and 111. live in hougang and now, no more buses for me to take direct to somerset or marina... damn sad... they are too fast in removing the services leh. somemore, its much more expensive to take NEL to those places... i think they should really keep at least 1 bus plying along the NEL route leh... what if one day the NEL breaks down... all take cab or they got enough bus to cater to the whole seng kang and hougang people??? damn pissed off by sbs... i think we are manipulated as usual again... -
From my point of view , they are out to earn $$ instead of giving Singaporeans an alternative or convienence to travel . After this sunday , I wonder whats going to be the public reaction . I have talked to a few commutators regarding bus 81 change and they were like me absolutely livid .
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imagine everyone or at least a whole lot of people rejecting the NEL route.. that ONE bus service will be swamped...
they will not want that.. much better in the business sense (since they are the only ones providing Public Transport) to subtly force people to take the NEL...
again, they are behaving like a monopoly or cartel and no one is taking them to task for that... worse, it's done with the blessings of the authorities (who probably never have to take public transport because of their chauffeured cars)Originally posted by SBS9818A:
They always say they have contingency services for when the NEL breaks down but it will be a slipshod, disorganized affair. I believe they should retain [b]ONE bus service, they can make the headways as long as they want, but it's some duplication that matters.[/b] -
Yes, I agree. The onus is on the authorities to get down to the level of the common folk and seek their opinions, and not do things just to benefit a certain company. SBST and TIBS are linked via Temasek Holdings, so I'm unsuprised they fight with each other in "name" while they do things together behind our backs.Originally posted by the Bear:imagine everyone or at least a whole lot of people rejecting the NEL route.. that ONE bus service will be swamped...
they will not want that.. much better in the business sense (since they are the only ones providing Public Transport) to subtly force people to take the NEL...
again, they are behaving like a monopoly or cartel and no one is taking them to task for that... worse, it's done with the blessings of the authorities (who probably never have to take public transport because of their chauffeured cars) -
The amended service 81 will skip 2 pairs of stops along Tampines Rd, and instead it will ply Hougang Ave 3.
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In my opinion, service 147 will still be terminating at Clementi, this is the most direct route between Clementi Central and Chinatown, compared to services 166 or 197. Somemore service 147 only follows a small stretch of the East-West line. I think that service 147 route will stay as normal.Originally posted by SBS9819Y:For all you know service 147 may be cut to New Bridge Rd in Phase 3 of the rationalisation exercise, then 158 may be extended to Hougang along 147's route to cover up the loss. With a mad PTC, anything goes.
If service 158 is extended, it will be longer to complete the whole journey to and fro Hougang, considering it as a loop service.
Service 100 may be extended to Hougang or Sengkang.
Service 97 (amended) and Express 507 can be integrated into one trunk service
Boon Lay to Marina Centre.
Service 100 can be extended to Hougang or Sengkang, to provide a link to Aljunied Rd.
Service 103 can be shortened to Serangoon interchange. -
Regarding Sv. 103, it would technically be back to its roots, after all it went to Serangoon Gardens previously. Sv. 97 and Express 507 can be integrated, I believe they will do so eventually as the routes duplicate.Originally posted by tranquilice:In my opinion, service 147 will still be terminating at Clementi, this is the most direct route between Clementi Central and Chinatown, compared to services 166 or 197. Somemore service 147 only follows a small stretch of the East-West line. I think that service 147 route will stay as normal.
If service 158 is extended, it will be longer to complete the whole journey to and fro Hougang, considering it as a loop service.
Service 100 may be extended to Hougang or Sengkang.
Service 97 (amended) and Express 507 can be integrated into one trunk service Boon Lay to Marina Centre.
Service 100 can be extended to Hougang or Sengkang, to provide a link to Aljunied Rd.
Service 103 can be shortened to Serangoon interchange.
For Sv. 100 to be extended to Hougang it would be a replacement for Sv. 111 with regards to termination points only. I also believe Jln Kayu Terminal will be shut in due course, as well, with Sv. 378 and Sv. 379 beginning from either Sengkang Int or Yio Chu Kang Int. -
Well...I can say Live and Let Live...
Changes happen every day whether we like it or not.
I guess we have to change our habits and routine, yah?
103 to Serangoon Int...not a bad idea
but wonder if hougang would be better...maybe 103 will further be extended to punggol later.
Well...hope no more buses would be cut from Serangoon Int. -
aiyah... donno lah... damn pissed leh... after so many years of taking bus, now forced to take NEL which is more expensive.. no choices at all... why is Singapore always pretending to give people choices but there is only 1 choice everytime??? they terminate bus services and tell you to take NEL to switch to this and that bus or switch to NS or EW line... end of the day, they just want to make sure you people quickly spend more money on the NEL and they can quickly recoup their losses... if the circle line opens in the next few years, i think all buses can terminate liao loh, major trunk services can stop... one day if there is a major power failure, cork up the whole singapore, i would like to see what they can do about it... damn selfish people, giving us transport, but making us pay and pay for their expensive money digging methods... i donno but i think this is how the SBS transit can be so rich... i dont see them cutting prices when they make more money after implementing the EZ link card leh... trying to hide... those b*st*rds!
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Urgh!!! Extending Sv 158 to Hougang Sector? making my trip to Mountbatten Road abit more longer....Originally posted by SBS9818A:Yes, that is possible. Sv. 158 is a candidate to move to Hougang to cover the sector from Serangoon Central to Hougang. Expect to see a change in fleets if that is done so. However, isn't there currently Sv. 166 from C'menti to New Bridge Rd?
I agree with the last statement. The PTC does things without any further thought with regards to the commuters and travelling public as a whole, they do what they like without further consultation on how it affects commuters. So much for a "World-class" public transportation system, indeed.
I hope that Sv 166 should stay on its original route.
PTC, I don't know what are some hell things are you doing next when you guys are trying to make the lifes of commuters so much worsen!!! I wonder what the f*** PTC is there for! With them, would there be a world class transportation system? I don't think so. They are destroying it gradually... -
Oh pls!!! PTC, pls don't do anymore withdrawal upon the 3 services!!! If PTC is there to make life of commuters worsen again, I don't think I don't want to live in Singapore in the future!Originally posted by tranquilice:The changes came too fast! At first, I thought the amendments will be announced sometime in late September.
The MRT has top priority over bus services. So, when there's duplication, bus services have to be sacrified.
Currently, there's still services 82, 103 and 147 duplicating most parts of the NEL, let hope that SBST and PTC will not do anything bad to the 3 services.
I hope that sv 133 would stay!!! It is the service that is really prominent for me and other S'goon residents!!! -
PTC, with the co-ordination of Transitlink, is making commuter's life so difficult! They are trying to force people to take the train, instead of taking bus services!!! What kinda logic are they thinking? If this continues on, I think Singapore would become an 'inaccessible' country in the future! What's the point if they continue to do thing like this, to create troubles for commuters? Singapore Transportation System has failed the criteria of being a first class tranpotation system!!!
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What i meant is that 147 may ply between Clementi and New Bridge Rd. After all the illogical PTC likes to "reduce duplication" with the NEL.Originally posted by tranquilice:In my opinion, service 147 will still be terminating at Clementi, this is the most direct route between Clementi Central and Chinatown, compared to services 166 or 197. Somemore service 147 only follows a small stretch of the East-West line. I think that service 147 route will stay as normal.
If service 158 is extended, it will be longer to complete the whole journey to and fro Hougang, considering it as a loop service.
Service 100 may be extended to Hougang or Sengkang.
Service 97 (amended) and Express 507 can be integrated into one trunk service Boon Lay to Marina Centre.
Service 100 can be extended to Hougang or Sengkang, to provide a link to Aljunied Rd.
Service 103 can be shortened to Serangoon interchange.
Perhaps Phase 3 will only affect all the Hougang South services instead of the other services that duplicate with the NEL, regardless of the extent. -
What i meant is that 147 may ply between Clementi and New Bridge Rd. After all the illogical PTC likes to "reduce duplication" with the NEL.Originally posted by tranquilice:In my opinion, service 147 will still be terminating at Clementi, this is the most direct route between Clementi Central and Chinatown, compared to services 166 or 197. Somemore service 147 only follows a small stretch of the East-West line. I think that service 147 route will stay as normal.
If service 158 is extended, it will be longer to complete the whole journey to and fro Hougang, considering it as a loop service.
Service 100 may be extended to Hougang or Sengkang.
Service 97 (amended) and Express 507 can be integrated into one trunk service Boon Lay to Marina Centre.
Service 100 can be extended to Hougang or Sengkang, to provide a link to Aljunied Rd.
Service 103 can be shortened to Serangoon interchange.
Perhaps Phase 3 will only affect all the Hougang South services instead of the other services that duplicate with the NEL, regardless of the extent. -
Service 147 can be cut into 2 services if SBST/PTC decide that this service should be amended:- One service between Clementi interchange and Marina Centre terminal (proceed straight to Victoria St after Hill St, turn into Middle Rd, Beach Rd and then Raffles Blvd, same for return journey), while the other one between Hougang Central interchange and Serangoon interchange (to maintain the link between Hougang Ave 8 and Yio Chu Kang Rd/Serangoon Central). Service 103 can be shortened to Serangoon interchange, what I mean is that the service will ply between Jalan Kayu terminal and Serangoon interchange only. Service 107 can be withdrawn, the service duplicates service 853 between Serangoon Central and Kallang Bahru. Service 82 may be re-routed to ply Kallang Bahru instead of Bendemeer Rd to replace the link of service 107 between Kallang Bahru and Shenton Way. Service 133 may not be affected as it only duplicates 2 operational NEL stations along the route (ie. Potong Pasir and Boon Keng, Serangoon station is not counted in as Serangoon Ave 2 where the service plys is quite a longer walking distance away from the station)
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hello
regarding svc 103
once 81 is gone i forsee many ppl taking 103 instead. 103 will need supoerbuses soon
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According to Mr Tan Kheng Leong, owner of PH1705L - a 1992 MB OH1318 with Soon Chow body, the amendments/withdrawals for scheme B services will take place in December instead of the original scheduled date (which is supposed to be one or two weeks from now?). Also, there is only trip of one service 650 bus daily, and it ply from Potong Pasir to Marina South in the morning peak only. After all 650 duplicates 638 from Potong Pasir to Marina South. Hence, there is no need for service 650 in the evening peak.Originally posted by Zilchster:Following services will be withdrawn:
85, Express 501, 511 and 512
Route Amendments:
Sbs 81, 97, 111, Express 502 and Tibs 106
Scheme B services will be affected.
638 and 650 withdrawn
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Service 103 may not need superbuses as I predict that SBST may want to shortened it to Serangoon interchange or even withdraw it.Originally posted by xin1jun2:hello
regarding svc 103
once 81 is gone i forsee many ppl taking 103 instead. 103 will need supoerbuses soon
ZYX
Service 147 currently can meet the demand between NE corridor and Chinatown.