SMB8007P logo removed, on 851 today.
There are around 10 B9 in sedep parked at one corner all without logo together With 3-4 citaros. So are these going to TT for 974?
Originally posted by lemon1974:There are around 10 B9 in sedep parked at one corner all without logo together With 3-4 citaros. So are these going to TT for 974?
Possibly LTA storage buses for now ...
Originally posted by TIB987K:Possibly LTA storage buses for now ...
Storages buses? Then these buses from where ? SMRT?
SMB-plated MAN NL323F
3080 to 3083
3085
3102 to 3103
7 Batch 2
3128 to 3135
3137 to 3142
3151 to 3159
3165 to 3169
28 Batch 3
SG-plated MAN NL323F
1700 to 1702
3 Batch 3
SMB-plaed MAN NG363F
8001
8007
2 Production Batch
SG-plated Mercedes-Benz O530
1023 to 1026
4 Batch 3
SG-plated Volvo B9TL
5061 to 5067
5129 to 5137
5148
5149
18 Batch 4
Total: 62 buses
Transfer of buses on 180318 is 96 buses.
Transfer of buses on 250318 is 62 buses.
Total: 158 buses
LTA should give 110 back to SBST Hougang-Sengkang package.
944 to TTS Bulim package and 974 to SMRT CCK-BPJ package.
Originally posted by carbikebus:LTA should give 110 back to SBST Hougang-Sengkang package.
944 to TTS Bulim package and 974 to SMRT CCK-BPJ package.
Meanwhile Sembawang can have 117.
974 actually can merge with 171. 65, 67 and DTL will take care of the rest.
Originally posted by carbikebus:LTA should give 110 back to SBST Hougang-Sengkang package.
944 to TTS Bulim package and 974 to SMRT CCK-BPJ package.
Why is 110 under SMRT at the first place? Pardon my ignorance, I haven't observed buses for half a year already
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Why is 110 under SMRT at the first place? Pardon my ignorance, I haven't observed buses for half a year already
I wish i knew better..same like why 944 and 974 under SMRT & TTS respectively
GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF SELETAR BUS PACKAGE SERVICES - SBS TRANSIT UNDESERVING OF CONTRACT
Simply appalling of SBST to be unable to remedy the long-standing problems of its services in terms of frequency and punctuality, even after its win on contracts.
On Sunday, 8 April 2018, buses on service 24 were operating at a frequency of 20-22 minutes throughout. This is a severe breach of the stipulated frequency of max 15 mins during off peak.
24 is a vital service as it provides many unique connections and is heavily relied on. Furthermore, it is one of the services to the airport, heavy in human traffic and currently poorly served by the MRT.
The fact that SBST is UNDEROPERATING the service (And many others I daresay) proves that it as an operator lacks the adequate qualities required to provide services for the residents under the package for the next 5 years.
The fact that it knows that the government backs it up, given its huge stakes in CDG under TH, makes it complacent and comfortable in its own position, therefore is indifferent to the problem and can't be any less bothered to do something about it.
Originally posted by SMB128B:GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF SELETAR BUS PACKAGE SERVICES - SBS TRANSIT UNDESERVING OF CONTRACT
Simply appalling of SBST to be unable to remedy the long-standing problems of its services in terms of frequency and punctuality, even after its win on contracts.
On Sunday, 8 April 2018, buses on service 24 were operating at a frequency of 20-22 minutes throughout. This is a severe breach of the stipulated frequency of max 15 mins during off peak.
24 is a vital service as it provides many unique connections and is heavily relied on. Furthermore, it is one of the services to the airport, heavy in human traffic and currently poorly served by the MRT.
The fact that SBST is UNDEROPERATING the service (And many others I daresay) proves that it as an operator lacks the adequate qualities required to provide services for the residents under the package for the next 5 years.
The fact that it knows that the government backs it up, given its huge stakes in CDG under TH, makes it complacent and comfortable in its own position, therefore is indifferent to the problem and can't be any less bothered to do something about it.
Forward this to LTA. Writing here is not that effective in resolving the problem mentioned here.
Originally posted by SMB128B:GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF SELETAR BUS PACKAGE SERVICES - SBS TRANSIT UNDESERVING OF CONTRACT
Simply appalling of SBST to be unable to remedy the long-standing problems of its services in terms of frequency and punctuality, even after its win on contracts.
On Sunday, 8 April 2018, buses on service 24 were operating at a frequency of 20-22 minutes throughout. This is a severe breach of the stipulated frequency of max 15 mins during off peak.
24 is a vital service as it provides many unique connections and is heavily relied on. Furthermore, it is one of the services to the airport, heavy in human traffic and currently poorly served by the MRT.
The fact that SBST is UNDEROPERATING the service (And many others I daresay) proves that it as an operator lacks the adequate qualities required to provide services for the residents under the package for the next 5 years.
The fact that it knows that the government backs it up, given its huge stakes in CDG under TH, makes it complacent and comfortable in its own position, therefore is indifferent to the problem and can't be any less bothered to do something about it.
You not scared ah here got many LTA & SBST diehard fans?
LTA only state that peak period frequency is max 15 mins. He mention 20-22 mins frequency throughout is base on observations from first bus till 1250 pm? Or just one trip？
Originally posted by SG1131L:Forward this to LTA. Writing here is not that effective in resolving the problem mentioned here.
Hi mr SG1131L, if it is really that bad, did the guy observe service 24 departure timing from the interchange? Or was it based on the timing along the journey where traffic tends to be uncertain?
Whenever I see people complain, it is always the same old guy complaining against the same public transport company. We must be objective and cannot bring own emotions into consideration. Cheers. Thanks.
Well,
I am sorry to read about SMB128B’s encounter with bus service 24. I feel that it would be better if SMB128B forward the feedback to LTA as not everyone in this forum takes bus service 24 and is able to help SMB128B with his concern about bus service 24.
If there’s any misunderstanding, may I apologize. I was just trying to help my fellow forum participant get his message across to the relevant authority, so that appropriate measures can be taken to address the issue.
Originally posted by lemon1974:LTA only state that peak period frequency is max 15 mins. He mention 20-22 mins frequency throughout is base on observations from first bus till 1250 pm? Or just one trip？
Nope. Did my research - Sundays max freq for 24 is 15 mins. The time I observed was counted as PM off peak.
I personally waited 25 minutes for my bus (opp Mera Terr). The next bus was 19 minutes away. Opposite direction, 21 minutes, then 23 minutes.
I used the bus timing app. Should have screenshotted but oh wells it was damn hot and I damn sot.
Originally posted by carbikebus:You not scared ah here got many LTA & SBST diehard fans?
Idgaf? I just say my humble experience, not like I will go prison what
I'm damn done w both SBST for their revolting standards and LTA for their lack of oversight.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr SG1131L, if it is really that bad, did the guy observe service 24 departure timing from the interchange? Or was it based on the timing along the journey where traffic tends to be uncertain?
Whenever I see people complain, it is always the same old guy complaining against the same public transport company. We must be objective and cannot bring own emotions into consideration. Cheers. Thanks.
Just address me as I am and there is no need to coward your responses.
"Where traffic tends to be uncertain" is not an excuse for prolonged and REPEATED delays in the journey. When the problem becomes long term it becomes a normality and it is then the operator's or LTA's responsibility to remedy the problem. Either they adjust the DDU timings, to tighten timings at jam free areas and loosen timings at jammed areas, or they pump in downroutes past jammed areas. If need be, LTA may intervene in trimming, splitting, or converting these often outdated trunk routes to increase reliability.
I think it is people like you in the administration that are leading to such a lack in efficacy to solve the problem. If you only observe all timings from the interchange of bloody course all the buses will be on time la! So buses only travel from one interchange to another? Everyone only takes the bus to and from the end points? Your choice to shove the problem aside just reflects the irresponsible and nonchalant attitude some people have in the office, hence I need not even justify myself that such a "phenomenon" actually exists.
I think you are completely right that we must be objective. I hereby present to you not my own emotions, but my experiences as a typical commuter. I also do find fault with other operators. However, I think it's only fair I bring the 24 issue to the table right now (when this problem actually existed since ages ago) given the winning of the bid by SBST, and the fact that DESPITE PROMISES BY THE CONTRACT SBST still failed to deliver, shows not only how undeserving SBST is of Seletar, but also how full of shit LTA is in all its "rules" on the winning operator. Selective enforcement?
Side note, next time just reply my comment as it is. No need to be afraid to point out who you wanna question.
Originally posted by SG1131L:Forward this to LTA. Writing here is not that effective in resolving the problem mentioned here.
Pointless la. You think I never try before meh
Give them some time to sort out 24. Hopefully they also put a couple of bendies on it. After all, 10 units were expropriated from SMRT weren't they?
If no marked change, expect Sembawang to stay with the incumbents and Hougang to fall under GAS.
Originally posted by iveco:Give them some time to sort out 24. Hopefully they also put a couple of bendies on it. After all, 10 units were expropriated from SMRT weren't they?
If no marked change, expect Sembawang to stay with the incumbents and Hougang to fall under GAS.
Those 10 A24s are supposed to be deployed around the Yishun Feeders.. Sv800 Sv804 Sv806 Sv807 Sv811..
Originally posted by SMB315C:Those 10 A24s are supposed to be deployed around the Yishun Feeders.. Sv800 Sv804 Sv806 Sv807 Sv811..
So now lta realised how important is the bendies to the feeder eh..
Originally posted by SMB128B:Just address me as I am and there is no need to coward your responses.
"Where traffic tends to be uncertain" is not an excuse for prolonged and REPEATED delays in the journey. When the problem becomes long term it becomes a normality and it is then the operator's or LTA's responsibility to remedy the problem. Either they adjust the DDU timings, to tighten timings at jam free areas and loosen timings at jammed areas, or they pump in downroutes past jammed areas. If need be, LTA may intervene in trimming, splitting, or converting these often outdated trunk routes to increase reliability.
I think it is people like you in the administration that are leading to such a lack in efficacy to solve the problem. If you only observe all timings from the interchange of bloody course all the buses will be on time la! So buses only travel from one interchange to another? Everyone only takes the bus to and from the end points? Your choice to shove the problem aside just reflects the irresponsible and nonchalant attitude some people have in the office, hence I need not even justify myself that such a "phenomenon" actually exists.
I think you are completely right that we must be objective. I hereby present to you not my own emotions, but my experiences as a typical commuter. I also do find fault with other operators. However, I think it's only fair I bring the 24 issue to the table right now (when this problem actually existed since ages ago) given the winning of the bid by SBST, and the fact that DESPITE PROMISES BY THE CONTRACT SBST still failed to deliver, shows not only how undeserving SBST is of Seletar, but also how full of shit LTA is in all its "rules" on the winning operator. Selective enforcement?
Side note, next time just reply my comment as it is. No need to be afraid to point out who you wanna question.
Hi mr SMB128B, going by what you say, the same goes for Sbs transit, smrt, Go Ahead Singapore. They did nothing to maintain the required frequency for their bus services due to the massive jam along TPE experienced in the evenings during weekdays, causing their frequency to derail from the stated frequencies.
So LTA, please do not award all packages to Sbs transit, smrt and go ahead Singapore.
Crazy right? What sort of reasoning is this to say the traffic conditions cannot count in?
What about Go Ahead Singapore service 386 which also keeps underperforming even after several complaints? 386 is also caused by traffic jams around Punggol area (particularly Punggol field stretch). Even 3/83 also affected due to the need to pass by the Punggol field stretch leading to the other exit along Punggol field to TPE/KPE. So why isn’t Go Ahead Singapore being penalized?
Morale of the story is to give and take sometimes. No need to be so insistent on fault of company.
Cheers. Thanks.