MAN double-decker bus (Part 2)

• carbikebus

  10 Sep 17, 04:06

  Originally posted by A22 fan:

  Only left GA without any MAN...but i suppose LTA will enforce them to use one day. Lets start from A22 to my guess. At least TT and SBS got one A95 while the latter might get more..especially seletar package commerce date getting near plus all the 20 Dennis Tridents are retire bound next year.

  Hope so

• sgbuses

  10 Sep 17, 17:39

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  How hard is it to just lift the cover and flip it down, and then put it back up again after the process is completed?

  What is the whole point of having an auto ramp if the BC has to come out of his cabin anyway?

• gekpohboy

  10 Sep 17, 17:54

  Originally posted by sgbuses:

  What is the whole point of having an auto ramp if the BC has to come out of his cabin anyway?

  Probably for the manufacturer to mark up the price. I don't know, just guessing.

  From the YouTube videos, it looks like the button is at the ceiling. If they can adjust the position to a level that is reachable to the wheelchair users, the wheelchair users would be able to operate the ramp themselves, without any help from the bus driver.

  Also, why is it that the closing is not smooth? From the YouTube videos, I see that the door has to open and close again as the ramp retreats to the bus.

• gekpohboy

  10 Sep 17, 18:01

  On YouTube, search for "SBS Transit MAN", and sort by upload date. You will instantly get about six videos on the SBS Transit MAN double-decker bus.
• sgbuses

  10 Sep 17, 18:04

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Probably for the manufacturer to mark up the price. I don't know, just guessing.

  From the YouTube videos, it looks like the button is at the ceiling. If they can adjust the position to a level that is reachable to the wheelchair users, the wheelchair users would be able to operate the ramp themselves, without any help from the bus driver.

  Also, why is it that the closing is not smooth? From the YouTube videos, I see that the door has to open and close again as the ramp retreats to the bus.

  Bode's design didn't require the doors to move one bit. And that was more than 15 years ago, in Perth.

  This project is not being taken seriously. Either the manufacturer thinks that the massive order is already in the bag, or they do not think an order will come and so it is not worth the effort to do more.

• gekpohboy

  10 Sep 17, 18:18

  Wait. Before we dwell into this, we have to understand that this feature was not in the design when the bus was first purchased. That's why we need to customise the auto ramp feature on our own.

  As to why the operations is not smooth, it's because the bus was not designed to have the auto ramp, and the auto ramp is later then add in one, that's why now got this problem.

  Because the configuration of the bus with ramp and without ramp is different, and the ramp is later then ownself add in one, that's why the ramp cannot open and close smoothly without having the door open and close during the process.

  I believe it's just for this bus. Newer buses that come with auto ramp may not have this problem, because the auto ramp would be built into the bus; no need for customisation.

• sgbuses

  10 Sep 17, 18:39

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Wait. Before we dwell into this, we have to understand that this feature was not in the design when the bus was first purchased. That's why we need to customise the auto ramp feature on our own.

  As for why the operations is not smooth, it's because the bus was not designed to have the auto ramp, and the auto ramp is later then add in one, that's why now got this problem.

  I believe it's just for this bus. Newer buses that come with auto ramp may not have this problem, because the auto ramp would be built into the design; no need for customisation.

  What do you mean by customize? These should have been standard features.

  The automatic ramp is integrated into the door design, because they work together with the operation of the ramp switch. I am fine with it slightly open if the need be, but the door should not slam shut during deployment - waiting passengers will not feel comfortable, and for kids it is an accident waiting to happen.

• gekpohboy

  10 Sep 17, 18:40

  Bus at first don't have auto ramp. Auto ramp is later then add in one. That's what I meant by customise.
• sgbuses

  10 Sep 17, 18:50

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Bus at first don’t have auto ramp. Auto ramp is later then add in one. That’s what I meant by customise.

  In that case, someone is trying to peddle their wares...and LTA obviously has no clue why they would want an automatic ramp in the first place.

  Whatever happened to intuitive design?!

  At this rate, we are going to have several SG5999Zs and SG4002Gs down the road. And each bus is going to have directional stickers every 1m apart as what you already find on SG5999Z, and passengers will continue to ignore them.

• gekpohboy

  10 Sep 17, 19:02

  I believe the three door bus was built with auto ramp.
• sgbuses

  10 Sep 17, 19:10

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  I believe the three door bus was built with auto ramp.

  Both of them are manual wheelchair ramps.

• lemon1974

  11 Sep 17, 15:03

  SG5835 should be rotating between sv 130/133/70/76 in the coming months....

• A22 fan

  16 Sep 17, 23:49

  SG5835M >> 76

   

  Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

• TIB 585L

  16 Sep 17, 23:55

  76 bus very sticky liao. chances are very low
• A22 fan

  17 Sep 17, 00:14

  @Mr TIB585L, thanks for your answer and info. 

• iveco

  17 Sep 17, 00:32

  Originally posted by A22 fan:

  SG5835M >> 76

   

  Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

  Wish it could cameo on 166.

• SBS2792K

  17 Sep 17, 07:35

  Originally posted by A22 fan:

  SG5835M >> 76

   

  Might even cameo 70,130 or 133..and also dont write off non seletar (but still under Amkdep) services like 13,22,25,72 and so on.

  for now limited to 76

• SMB315C

  22 Sep 17, 22:36

  SG5853K
  Registered as of today >> SBS Transit

• TIB 585L

  22 Sep 17, 22:49

  Originally posted by SMB315C:

  SG5853K
  Registered as of today >> SBS Transit

  
  Jump so far sia
• SMB1368T

  22 Sep 17, 23:36

  Not as far and surprising as SMB388S and then suddenly 8001E

• carbikebus

  23 Sep 17, 00:12

  Originally posted by SMB315C:

  SG5853K
  Registered as of today >> SBS Transit

  Now at Hgdep

• SMB128B

  26 Sep 17, 19:06

  Originally posted by SMB315C:

  SG5853K
  Registered as of today >> SBS Transit

  This officially shows SBST interest in the MAN family 

  Welcome to the club

• carbikebus

  26 Sep 17, 19:44

  Originally posted by SMB128B:

  This officially shows SBST interest in the MAN family 

  Welcome to the club

  SBST:Volvo B10BLE CNG,Scania K230UB,MB Citaro,Volvo B9TL family,Volvo B10TL

  Dennis Trident,MAN ND323F & possibly the NL323F also.

  SMRT:MB OC500LE,MB Citaro,MAN NL323F,ADL Enviro500,Volvo B9TL 

  & MAN ND323F.

  Tower Transit:MAN NL323F,MB Citaro,ADL Enviro500,Volvo B9TL & MAN ND323F 12.8m.

  Go-Ahead:😂😆😂😃😤😪

• carbikebus

  27 Sep 17, 13:07

  I think SG5999Z will go to SBST after TTS trial ended

• A22 fan

  27 Sep 17, 18:48

  Its either SG5999Z  transfer to SBST or remain at TT. Redeploy to 106 if the latter outcome happens.