Originally posted by A22 fan:Still feel that still a small number of people are very biased against bendies just like LTA...yes they occupy places when stopping but most passengers are happy with that i suppose. Furthermore existing yishun n woodlands interchanges are temporary n when they move to new or upgraded interchanges in near future such congestions wil be solved as they hav more spaces to move.
Woodland interchange no change in size, just hope for the woodland north interchange to help to relieve the jam (but it will be at least 4-5 years more)..
yishun new interchange is way way smaller than the current temp interchange.. only 46 parking lots if remember correctly.
Originally posted by SMB145B:i don't think is solution wor.
adding exits? i don't want another CTE that jams every peak hours.
The chokepoint of CTE mostly comes between Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 and 3, and not every exit.
TPE situation is different from CTE. The chokepoint at Punggol Road exit is caused by only one nearest exit to Sengkang and Punggol. It's better to set up exits at Sengkang East to divert the traffic away from the Punggol Road exits with bus stops.
Originally posted by vicamour:The chokepoint of CTE mostly comes between Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 and 3, and not every exit.
TPE situation is different from CTE. The chokepoint at Punggol Road exit is caused by only one nearest exit to Sengkang and Punggol. It's better to set up exits at Sengkang East to divert the traffic away from the Punggol Road exits with bus stops.
They should open slip roads at Punggol East Flyover...
Originally posted by vicamour:I have seen the floor plan before. It looks smaller with lesser lots.
858 route and deployment itself is already a problem. I already stated all the solutions but he keep on insisting his own problems on his own solutions. If every airport service demands a bendy fleet as the only solution, think the bus queue may stretch and delay the whole airport.
Maybe 972 has higher loadings these days compared to 190, but 190 still continues to come frequently. At least now no one complains can't board 190 anymore.
Madness or you want to see more people complaining about the frequencies of those services?
858 loading, will need more confirmation.
wait till you see 190 with A22s or OCs. neither 190 nor 972 should have rigids on them.
oddly, no one complains of 225. but then again Boon Lay Int is still very small. 180 should need frequency up first not Bendy to DD upgrade. 179 has loadings like 902, however rigids do not even work at all for peak periods at NTU. 241 loading aparently had loading that is heavier than some feeders.
Punggol really need to do something,Every morning from 0650-0825 jams getting worse..Mandatory give way to buses also less use..They still heck care
Originally posted by vicamour:The chokepoint of CTE mostly comes between Ang Mo Kio Ave 1 and 3, and not every exit.
TPE situation is different from CTE. The chokepoint at Punggol Road exit is caused by only one nearest exit to Sengkang and Punggol. It's better to set up exits at Sengkang East to divert the traffic away from the Punggol Road exits with bus stops.
let's see
TPE (Towards SLE/CTE)
Exit 6 - Halus Link (Punggol Central; Towards PIE, use Exit 8; future), KPE (ECP, PIE) (Towards PIE, use Exit 7)
Exit 9 - Punggol Road
Exit 10 - Sengkang East Road, Punggol Way
CTE (Towards SLE)
Exit 11 - AMK Ave 1
Exit 12A - AMK Ave 3 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
Exit 12B - AMK Ave 5 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
There aren't any new exit for drivers coming from the east heading to Sengkang.
the jams on TPE stretches from Tampines Ave 12/Pasir Ris Dr 8 to KPE exit while CTE is from Braddell Road to AMK Ave 1.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
They should open slip roads at Punggol East Flyover...
for maybe only Sengkang side not Punggol.
a bit tight to squeeze exit in a way.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:some ppl think 902 shd use DD wen it only for a 5 mins ride lol
meh, i only take 902 in wet or bad weather.
Originally posted by SMB145B:meh, i only take 902 in wet or bad weather.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:
cant imagine 902 have DDs, i wonder how long will it take to leave the berth with 100% load as compared to a 3 door bendies and also alighting from DD n bendy POV
since LTA just hates bendies so much, i think 902 would be full fleet rigids.
Originally posted by SMB145B:since LTA just hates bendies so much, i think 902 would be full fleet rigids.
Originally posted by SMB145B:since LTA just hates bendies so much, i think 902 would be full fleet rigids.
I don't think LTA hates bendy,Its just that they want to minimise.Who knows in future what's their planning?
Seriously if i am the Transport Minister,I will urge short distance and airport svc to use bendy buses.For Airport svc the ratio should be 5 SD-1 BD sequence and it would be at control rate.No mid or long haul trunk nor express svc can use bendy.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:
cant imagine 902 have DDs, i wonder how long will it take to leave the berth with 100% load as compared to a 3 door bendies and also alighting from DD n bendy POV
902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.
Originally posted by SMB145B:let's see
TPE (Towards SLE/CTE)
Exit 6 - Halus Link (Punggol Central; Towards PIE, use Exit 8; future), KPE (ECP, PIE) (Towards PIE, use Exit 7)
Exit 9 - Punggol Road
Exit 10 - Sengkang East Road, Punggol WayCTE (Towards SLE)
Exit 11 - AMK Ave 1
Exit 12A - AMK Ave 3 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
Exit 12B - AMK Ave 5 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
There aren't any new exit for drivers coming from the east heading to Sengkang.
the jams on TPE stretches from Tampines Ave 12/Pasir Ris Dr 8 to KPE exit while CTE is from Braddell Road to AMK Ave 1.
Originally posted by vicamour:902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.
Originally posted by SMB145B:let's see
TPE (Towards SLE/CTE)
Exit 6 - Halus Link (Punggol Central; Towards PIE, use Exit 8; future), KPE (ECP, PIE) (Towards PIE, use Exit 7)
Exit 9 - Punggol Road
Exit 10 - Sengkang East Road, Punggol WayCTE (Towards SLE)
Exit 11 - AMK Ave 1
Exit 12A - AMK Ave 3 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
Exit 12B - AMK Ave 5 (Towards AYE, use Exit 14)
There aren't any new exit for drivers coming from the east heading to Sengkang.
the jams on TPE stretches from Tampines Ave 12/Pasir Ris Dr 8 to KPE exit while CTE is from Braddell Road to AMK Ave 1.
If you look at the directional basis, TPE jams is caused by the chokepoint at Punggol Road exit that stretches till Tampines Ave 12, if go towards SLE. That is why exits to Sengkang East /Punggol East is needed to divert the traffic away from Punggol Road exits.
CTE wise is caused by the chokepoint at Ang Mo Kio Ave 3 exit, that stretches to Braddell Rd exits, if you go towards SLE.
902 can just extend to ply republic crescent
Originally posted by carbikebus:I don't think LTA hates bendy,Its just that they want to minimise.Who knows in future what's their planning?
Seriously if i am the Transport Minister,I will urge short distance and airport svc to use bendy buses.For Airport svc the ratio should be 5 SD-1 BD sequence and it would be at control rate.No mid or long haul trunk nor express svc can use bendy.
It's not about hate or not. It's more about the operating suitability and changes in the operating environment.
We are no longer in the environment that operators are fixated at particular models. It has come to a point that number of buses depends on the demands of the package of services and standard fleets allows such transitions to be easier and flexible, rather than setting more rules and make operations more difficult.
Originally posted by vicamour:It's not about hate or not. It's more about the operating suitability and changes in the operating environment.
We are no longer in the environment that operators are fixated at particular models. It has come to a point that number of buses depends on the demands of the package of services and standard fleets allows such transitions to be easier and flexible, rather than setting more rules and make operations more difficult.
Seriously,The package itself have too many flaws.Svc that doesnt serve more home ground also can be included into that particular package😂😂😂,Wasted more fuel to Os to the other side.Afterall the planners is just human being.They should revamp the bus packages for good in future.
Originally posted by carbikebus:902 can just extend to ply republic crescent
Seriously it's not needed and redundant. It's faster and cheaper to walk to the MRT station instead.
Would it be better to start from Woodlands North ITH and ply as a feeder to relieve the loads of those intra town services like 912, 913 instead?
Originally posted by carbikebus:Seriously,The package itself have too many flaws.Svc that doesnt serve more home ground also can be included into that particular package,Wasted more fuel to Os to the other side.Afterall the planners is just human being.They should revamp the bus packages for good in future.
Well, it just started. I believe that they do not want an area to be served by one operator only but at least two different operators in one area.
Surely have to give them more time to learn their lessons, right?
They have already set their hearts to do it. What can we really do now?
Service standards are bad in the past, many people complaining. Now service standards are improving, why still complaining?
Having a bigger fleet means more flexibilities and possibilities that can happen to react to changing situations. I think this is what they want to achieve.
Originally posted by vicamour:902 will probably be redundant once the Thomson line is up.
ah no.
what if thomson line breaks down?
Originally posted by vicamour:I have seen the floor plan before. It looks smaller with lesser lots.
858 route and deployment itself is already a problem. I already stated all the solutions but he keep on insisting his own problems on his own solutions. If every airport service demands a bendy fleet as the only solution, think the bus queue may stretch and delay the whole airport.
Maybe 972 has higher loadings these days compared to 190, but 190 still continues to come frequently. At least now no one complains can't board 190 anymore.
Madness or you want to see more people complaining about the frequencies of those services?
How many parking lots at Yishun Bus Interchange ITH?
Originally posted by vicamour:Well, it just started. I believe that they do not want an area to be served by one operator only but at least two different operators in one area.
Surely have to give them more time to learn their lessons, right?
They have already set their hearts to do it. What can we really do now?
Service standards are bad in the past, many people complaining. Now service standards are improving, why still complaining?
Having a bigger fleet means more flexibilities and possibilities that can happen to react to changing situations. I think this is what they want to achieve.
You still see SBST/SMRT monopolies in their territories don't you?No matter how you improve ppl still complain,That's life in Singapore.
Originally posted by Path Light:How many parking lots at Yishun Bus Interchange ITH?
47 lots