Originally posted by Formususeonly:Oh yeah 854 WAB quota fucked up again . Last week 854 has 9 Bendies and 6 DD the rest are SD . Previous week was 3-4 Bendies and 8-10 DD .
Previous week - 80-88% WAB buses
Last week - 65-69% WAB buses
Is this a trend where they increase WAB buses this week and then decrease it next week and then bring it back up the following week ?
If 9 O405Gs,6 A95s and 12 WAB SDs how the quota is f up ?
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Anchorvale Cres, Anchorvale St, Anchorvale Link, Fernvale St, Fernvale Link, Fernvale Rd, etc.
Ah sengkang area. I think will hav new services when the time comes. Punggol should also have. I think he is asking any area in already built-up or city that is not served by bus services
Originally posted by carbikebus:If 9 O405Gs,6 A95s and 12 WAB SDs how the quota is f up ?
Last time it was 10-14 DD . Now the DD drop to around 6 -8 of them . That means it's either replaced by a SD or a Bendy . Bendy = No WAB . Which means the quota is down . Now the bendy numbers are going back up on weekdays .
Originally posted by Formususeonly:Last time it was 10-14 DD . Now the DD drop to around 6 -8 of them . That means it's either replaced by a SD or a Bendy . Bendy = No WAB . Which means the quota is down . Now the bendy numbers are going back up on weekdays .
But the current quota you observed is still acceptable, and reaches the LTA minimum requirement of 60%, so I would'nt say its f-ed up.
On the other hand quite a number of feeders like 903, 913 are struggling to even hit the 60% quota, with many occasions even below a 50% WAB fleet.
Many passengers doesn't seemed to know the amendment of 18 & 39 to Tampines Concourse. BCs have to tell passengers to alight at the last stop before Tampines Concourse to change to another bus to go to Tampines Central.
Originally posted by Seveneighteightsix:Are there still any significant roads which needs buses that are still not served by any bus services? There's Maxwell Rd, Bedok North St 2 but are there more?
Bedok North st 2 not eligible for buses from what I have heard. Maxwell could easily have has 1-2 services ply.
In addition, there are lot of roads within industrial estates that do not have a bus service.
Also Haig road, Tanah Merah Kechill Road, Bayshore and Meyer road close to Mountbatten do not have full day bus service. Meyer & Bayshore has few premium services & shuttle
Originally posted by Seveneighteightsix:Are there still any significant roads which needs buses that are still not served by any bus services? There's Maxwell Rd, Bedok North St 2 but are there more?
Loyang Dr, Loyang Lane, Loyang Way (between PSR Dr 3 and Loyang Lane) - Maybe a new service from Changi Villege / LYDEP will do.
Flora Dr - Easiest way is to amend 37, but transfers to svc 2/5 will be lost.
Tampines St 42/44 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Tampines St 85/86 - Probably the upcoming Tampines feeder.
Tampines St 92/93/94 - Used to be served by 68, but since it was withdrawn, there's probably insufficient demand even for a peak-hour service.
Somapah Rd, Changi South Ave 1/3 - Maybe a new service from Changi Business Park Ter will serve SUTD.
Kaki Bukit Ave 2, Rd 3, Ave 3 - Maybe will have new service when DTL3 opens.
Ubi Ave 2, Rd 1/3 - Rumoured 137 from Sims Place to Ubi.
Haig Rd - Could easily divert one service from Tg Katong Rd but apparently LTA doesn't want to do so.
Stadium Dr - Bus stops were built but no service. Once I thought 16 will be diverted back to Sports Hub but now it seems unlikely.
Punggol Walk, Punggol Way (Nibong & Sumang LRT) - Unlikely to have service in near future given there's LRT and 382.
Anchorvale St/Cres, Compassvale Cres - Probably a new Sengkang feeder.
Sengkang West Rd, Seletar Aerospace Way - Unlikely to happen given the roundabout at Jln Kayu.
Seletar East Camp - Heard 102 will be extended once the area is developed.
Defu Ave 1 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - Not sure if a new service is needed and feasible.
Yishun Ave 8 - No need for now.
Woodlands Ave 10 - Bus stops were built long time ago but then abandoned. Maybe there will be a new service from Sembawang to Woodlands Industrial Park?
Woodlands Industrial Park, Woodlands Ave 4 (between Ave 9 and Admiralty Rd West) - Same suggestion as above.
Woodlands Ave 12 - Apparently there are some developments there. Can consider an express service from Sembawang via SLE.
Sungei Kadut Dr and Choa Chu Kang Way - Maybe a new service from CCK in future if demand from Sungei Kadut is sufficient.
Brickland Rd (between CCK Ave 3 and Ave 6) - No need for now, 301/983 at Ave 5 will do.
Dairy Farm Rd - Rumoured new service 973?
Bukit Batok St 31, West Ave 5 (between West Ave 2 and East Ave 5) - Hopefully will be considered together with the new developments nearby.
International Rd (between Fan Yoong Rd and Corporation Rd) - New JIS needed but unlikely to happen in near future.
Tuas West Rd - Bus stops nearby should be sufficient.
Seletar East Camp - yep, 102 is going there (80% sure). Somemore the bus stops were built a few months ago
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - there was a bus there but not anymore
Woodlands Ave 10 - served by the old 980 but left abandoned in 2005. No bus service is going there anymore
Woodlands Ave 12 - Too dangerous. Many people use the same road to the city
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Seletar East Camp - yep, 102 is going there (80% sure). Somemore the bus stops were built a few months ago
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - there was a bus there but not anymore
Woodlands Ave 10 - served by the old 980 but left abandoned in 2005. No bus service is going there anymore
Woodlands Ave 12 - Too dangerous. Many people use the same road to the city
Balmoral Rd and Chancery Lane was served by CSS 603 or 605 I believe
Originally posted by array88:Loyang Dr, Loyang Lane, Loyang Way (between PSR Dr 3 and Loyang Lane) - Maybe a new service from Changi Villege / LYDEP will do.
Flora Dr - Easiest way is to amend 37, but transfers to svc 2/5 will be lost.
Tampines St 42/44 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Tampines St 85/86 - Probably the upcoming Tampines feeder.
Tampines St 92/93/94 - Used to be served by 68, but since it was withdrawn, there's probably insufficient demand even for a peak-hour service.
Somapah Rd, Changi South Ave 1/3 - Maybe a new service from Changi Business Park Ter will serve SUTD.
Kaki Bukit Ave 2, Rd 3, Ave 3 - Maybe will have new service when DTL3 opens.
Ubi Ave 2, Rd 1/3 - Rumoured 137 from Sims Place to Ubi.
Haig Rd - Could easily divert one service from Tg Katong Rd but apparently LTA doesn't want to do so.
Stadium Dr - Bus stops were built but no service. Once I thought 16 will be diverted back to Sports Hub but now it seems unlikely.
Punggol Walk, Punggol Way (Nibong & Sumang LRT) - Unlikely to have service in near future given there's LRT and 382.
Anchorvale St/Cres, Compassvale Cres - Probably a new Sengkang feeder.
Sengkang West Rd, Seletar Aerospace Way - Unlikely to happen given the roundabout at Jln Kayu.
Seletar East Camp - Heard 102 will be extended once the area is developed.
Defu Ave 1 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - Not sure if a new service is needed and feasible.
Yishun Ave 8 - No need for now.
Woodlands Ave 10 - Bus stops were built long time ago but then abandoned. Maybe there will be a new service from Sembawang to Woodlands Industrial Park?
Woodlands Industrial Park, Woodlands Ave 4 (between Ave 9 and Admiralty Rd West) - Same suggestion as above.
Woodlands Ave 12 - Apparently there are some developments there. Can consider an express service from Sembawang via SLE.
Sungei Kadut Dr and Choa Chu Kang Way - Maybe a new service from CCK in future if demand from Sungei Kadut is sufficient.
Brickland Rd (between CCK Ave 3 and Ave 6) - No need for now, 301/983 at Ave 5 will do.
Dairy Farm Rd - Rumoured new service 973?
Bukit Batok St 31, West Ave 5 (between West Ave 2 and East Ave 5) - Hopefully will be considered together with the new developments nearby.
International Rd (between Fan Yoong Rd and Corporation Rd) - New JIS needed but unlikely to happen in near future.
Tuas West Rd - Bus stops nearby should be sufficient.
Hi mr array88, super detailed. Well done. Cheers. Thanks.
@array88: just my thoughts in red.
Loyang Dr, Loyang Lane, Loyang Way (between PSR Dr 3 and Loyang Lane) - Maybe a new service from Changi Villege / LYDEP will do. if sv 68 originating from CV going to Tampines can cover the untapped part of Loyang Industrial estate not covered by svc 6.
Flora Dr - Easiest way is to amend 37, but transfers to svc 2/5 will be lost. Cannot. svc 37 transfer to svc 2/5 is v. important. Guess they have to walk to Flora road and take sv 4 or walk up and take 2/5/37.
Tampines St 42/44 - Unlikely to be covered in near future. Yes I Agree.
Tampines St 85/86 - Probably the upcoming Tampines feeder. Agree.
Tampines St 92/93/94 - Used to be served by 68, but since it was withdrawn, there's probably insufficient demand even for a peak-hour service. Agree.
Somapah Rd, Changi South Ave 1/3 - Maybe a new service from Changi Business Park Ter will serve SUTD. Agree.
Kaki Bukit Ave 2, Rd 3, Ave 3 - Maybe will have new service when DTL3 opens. Def should be a new service especially when there are so many new business complexes around Bartley east as well. Surprised that still no service.
Ubi Ave 2, Rd 1/3 - Rumoured 137 from Sims Place to Ubi. Hope so.
Haig Rd - Could easily divert one service from Tg Katong Rd but apparently LTA doesn't want to do so. The left turn from Changi road is the problem, but for sure one of the services such as sv 135 can do Tanjong Katong - Dunman - Haig.
Stadium Dr - Bus stops were built but no service. Once I thought 16 will be diverted back to Sports Hub but now it seems unlikely. Demand is low maybe that's why!
Punggol Walk, Punggol Way (Nibong & Sumang LRT) - Unlikely to have service in near future given there's LRT and 382. LRT and svc 382 should be enough.
Anchorvale St/Cres, Compassvale Cres - Probably a new Sengkang feeder. Agree.
Sengkang West Rd, Seletar Aerospace Way - Unlikely to happen given the roundabout at Jln Kayu. No need as of now, but Sengkang west road could have svc 85 as it does not call Jalan Kayu/Seletar Circus roundabout anyway. It will be good for the farmlands/dorms to have at least one service and Jalan Kayu is crowded with 86, 102 and 103.
Seletar East Camp - Heard 102 will be extended once the area is developed. Still lot of time for East Camp to develop, maybe 2-3 years.
Defu Ave 1 - Unlikely to be covered in near future. Agree. Heard most of the complexes there are small business operations and hence does not have critical mass.
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - Not sure if a new service is needed and feasible. Rich people's area. Don't think will have critical mass to justify service.
Yishun Ave 8 - No need for now. Agree.
Woodlands Ave 10 - Bus stops were built long time ago but then abandoned. Maybe there will be a new service from Sembawang to Woodlands Industrial Park? Should have one soon.
Woodlands Industrial Park, Woodlands Ave 4 (between Ave 9 and Admiralty Rd West) - Same suggestion as above. There should have been a service launched long time back.
Woodlands Ave 12 - Apparently there are some developments there. Can consider an express service from Sembawang via SLE. Yes, there are.
Sungei Kadut Dr and Choa Chu Kang Way - Maybe a new service from CCK in future if demand from Sungei Kadut is sufficient. The industrial estate is huge and does have critical mass to launch a service with DDs, just like JIS. But the whole area relies solely on private operators (except for the tiny bit that svc 925 covers).
Brickland Rd (between CCK Ave 3 and Ave 6) - No need for now, 301/983 at Ave 5 will do. Once Tengah town is developed. For now, easy access along ave 5.
Dairy Farm Rd - Rumoured new service 973? Yes.
Bukit Batok St 31, West Ave 5 (between West Ave 2 and East Ave 5) - Hopefully will be considered together with the new developments nearby. Yes.
International Rd (between Fan Yoong Rd and Corporation Rd) - New JIS needed but unlikely to happen in near future. Yes there is potential for one more JIS.
Tuas West Rd - Bus stops nearby should be sufficient. The entire Tuas South area needs services. Maybe once MRT starts, can have some restructuring to have 2 new services cover Tuas South.
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Seletar East Camp - yep, 102 is going there (80% sure). Somemore the bus stops were built a few months ago
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - there was a bus there but not anymore
Woodlands Ave 10 - served by the old 980 but left abandoned in 2005. No bus service is going there anymore
Woodlands Ave 12 - Too dangerous. Many people use the same road to the city
Since when? Woodlands Ave 10 has never been served by any bus routes ...
On a related note, it's quite challenging to plan for bidirectional bus service on Woodlands Ave 12/10 because pedestrains would find it next to impossible to cross these roads, so any bus service would likely to be useful in one direction only ...
913 AM Off-Peak fleet for 27122016 Tuesday [36% WAB]
TIB982Z TIB987K TIB998D TIB1024H TIB1052B TIB1090R TIB1246J
7 MB O405G
SMB1396L SMB1403A SMB1404Y SMB1548R
4 MAN NL323F
Originally posted by array88:Loyang Dr, Loyang Lane, Loyang Way (between PSR Dr 3 and Loyang Lane) - Maybe a new service from Changi Villege / LYDEP will do.
Flora Dr - Easiest way is to amend 37, but transfers to svc 2/5 will be lost.
Tampines St 42/44 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Tampines St 85/86 - Probably the upcoming Tampines feeder.
Tampines St 92/93/94 - Used to be served by 68, but since it was withdrawn, there's probably insufficient demand even for a peak-hour service.
Somapah Rd, Changi South Ave 1/3 - Maybe a new service from Changi Business Park Ter will serve SUTD.
Kaki Bukit Ave 2, Rd 3, Ave 3 - Maybe will have new service when DTL3 opens.
Ubi Ave 2, Rd 1/3 - Rumoured 137 from Sims Place to Ubi.
Haig Rd - Could easily divert one service from Tg Katong Rd but apparently LTA doesn't want to do so.
Stadium Dr - Bus stops were built but no service. Once I thought 16 will be diverted back to Sports Hub but now it seems unlikely.
Punggol Walk, Punggol Way (Nibong & Sumang LRT) - Unlikely to have service in near future given there's LRT and 382.
Anchorvale St/Cres, Compassvale Cres - Probably a new Sengkang feeder.
Sengkang West Rd, Seletar Aerospace Way - Unlikely to happen given the roundabout at Jln Kayu.
Seletar East Camp - Heard 102 will be extended once the area is developed.
Defu Ave 1 - Unlikely to be covered in near future.
Balmoral Rd, Chancery Lane - Not sure if a new service is needed and feasible.
Yishun Ave 8 - No need for now.
Woodlands Ave 10 - Bus stops were built long time ago but then abandoned. Maybe there will be a new service from Sembawang to Woodlands Industrial Park?
Woodlands Industrial Park, Woodlands Ave 4 (between Ave 9 and Admiralty Rd West) - Same suggestion as above.
Woodlands Ave 12 - Apparently there are some developments there. Can consider an express service from Sembawang via SLE.
Sungei Kadut Dr and Choa Chu Kang Way - Maybe a new service from CCK in future if demand from Sungei Kadut is sufficient.
Brickland Rd (between CCK Ave 3 and Ave 6) - No need for now, 301/983 at Ave 5 will do.
Dairy Farm Rd - Rumoured new service 973?
Bukit Batok St 31, West Ave 5 (between West Ave 2 and East Ave 5) - Hopefully will be considered together with the new developments nearby.
International Rd (between Fan Yoong Rd and Corporation Rd) - New JIS needed but unlikely to happen in near future.
Tuas West Rd - Bus stops nearby should be sufficient.
Sengkang West Rd is supposed to be service 102 but ended up diverting to Jalan Kayu instead.
Seletar North Link/Seletar Link/Seletar West Link - Don't have a proper bus service.
That's why i suggest LTA should invest midibuses for some tight or Low demands areas but again their reasons...Duh!
Old SBST 68 when using Scania N113CRB or Volvo MK III / IV BCs always behind schedule because of some tight turnings and illegal parking but when they use Darts,All can reach on time..Ironic right?
aiya no surprise mah. the smaller the better
Originally posted by orange28:Since when? Woodlands Ave 10 has never been served by any bus routes ...
On a related note, it's quite challenging to plan for bidirectional bus service on Woodlands Ave 12/10 because pedestrains would find it next to impossible to cross these roads, so any bus service would likely to be useful in one direction only ...
Need to build overhead bridges as well.
All the trees in the center of Tanjong Katong south road (road separator area) have been removed. I think this is for road widening and TEL construction. Road even more clear to ply DDs now.
Hoping to see 36B get some DDs soon and svc 48 getting more DDs than just the two.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:All the trees in the center of Tanjong Katong south road (road separator area) have been removed. I think this is for road widening and TEL construction. Road even more clear to ply DDs now.
Hoping to see 36B get some DDs soon and svc 48 getting more DDs than just the two.
Loading for 48 is okay la..Peak hours i see those two DDs not that full house.Maybe add 1 more DD better.
36B can change to 36M.4 DDs and 2 SDs to supplement 36.Off peak frequencies between 14-19 mins and 8-13 mins during peak hours.Can built a small terminal office at Siglap Link there.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Loading for 48 is okay la..Peak hours i see those two DDs not that full house.Maybe add 1 more DD better.
36B can change to 36M.4 DDs and 2 SDs to supplement 36.Off peak frequencies between 14-19 mins and 8-13 mins during peak hours.Can built a small terminal office at Siglap Link there.
48 main loading is AM from Marine Parade/Tanjong Katong to Bugis/Rochor. Almost every bus will be in red zone and will find it difficult to take pax at One Amber before hitting ECP. PM peak I agree, loading is spread out so not that full house.
I really hope they build Siglap Terminal - have space + is a great location to house many services incl. 55, 135, 155 and 36M. This way Bishan, AMK and TPY can also get some relief if Siglap is made the main resting base.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:i wonder how long is the layover at ‘looping terminal’ like siglap and rumah tinggi
usually only 05 minutes.
Does Siglap Terminal do overnight parking? Last week I went to airport at around 530am, and saw 2 DDs and 2 SDs parked there.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:The second part idk.
Rumah Tinggi oso 5 mins ah? I always thought its 10 mins for them to go toilet at the food court there.
Wah then if BC wanna go to the toilet at Siglap then how liao
I think they got provision at Siglap also.
Many of the feeders during peak hours park bus for 5 minutes and depart again. Also saw 145 at Toa Payoh during morning peak hours has waiting time of only 05-07 minutes before start next journey to BNV.