Tri-door MAN Lion City at SITEC 2016

• AntiDennisLance

  14 Jun 17, 13:04

  I fully agree with this deployment. 190 shud get full fleet tri-door A22's.

• carbikebus

  18 Jun 17, 17:45

  So how is the bus flow?

• SMB5007J

  18 Jun 17, 20:58

  Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

  I fully agree with this deployment. 190 shud get full fleet tri-door A22's.

  like that i don't want take 190 liao lo

  but it's seriously retarded that they want to test it on 190 when 302 can probably be tested (not 301)

• carbikebus

  18 Jun 17, 21:18

  Originally posted by SMB5007J:

  like that i don't want take 190 liao lo

  but it's seriously retarded that they want to test it on 190 when 302 can probably be tested (not 301)

  Should have tested on fleet restriction service.

• SMB1368T

  18 Jun 17, 21:55

  like that it should have been 927 which takes it

• Marvel68

  18 Jun 17, 22:21

  Hope the trial fails and LTA doesn't order more of these buses....screw USB ports, I just want buses with more seats. Seems like there's an ongoing trend of newer buses having lesser seats than its predecessors. What's next? Buses in the future with just 15 pathetic seats?

• AntiDennisLance

  18 Jun 17, 22:58

  Originally posted by Marvel68:

  Hope the trial fails and LTA doesn't order more of these buses....screw USB ports, I just want buses with more seats. Seems like there's an ongoing trend of newer buses having lesser seats than its predecessors. What's next? Buses in the future with just 15 pathetic seats?

  You are wrong. Not 15 seats. Instead, 0 seats. Just like some MRT cabins. Only folks who get to sit are the wheelchair users. So that they can squeeze 120 pax on each 12m SD bus.

• carbikebus

  19 Jun 17, 04:25

  I strongly feel its more to passenger flow and the dwell times of boarding/alighting.Before any modification is done,they need to study what is the advantage/disadvantage of the three door bus.

• carbikebus

  19 Jun 17, 04:27

  As you all know most of the pax is so lazy to move behind and that's one reason why buses could only carry less than 60 pax😂

• AntiDennisLance

  19 Jun 17, 08:46

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  As you all know most of the pax is so lazy to move behind and that's one reason why buses could only carry less than 60 pax😂

  We should bring back the Hino BX341E's with Teikuko bodyworks and programme the front door ez-link readers to be strictly entry only. Then we will see everyone move to the back

• SMB128B

  19 Jun 17, 09:54

  Originally posted by Marvel68:

  Hope the trial fails and LTA doesn't order more of these buses....screw USB ports, I just want buses with more seats. Seems like there's an ongoing trend of newer buses having lesser seats than its predecessors. What's next? Buses in the future with just 15 pathetic seats?

  Thats a want not a need.. Anyway these buses are most prob gonna be deployed mainly on feeders (idk why 190 tho) and would it hurt actl to just stand for a few stops??

• TIB868X

  19 Jun 17, 12:08

  Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:

  I fully agree with this deployment. 190 shud get full fleet tri-door A22's.

  972 also.

• carbikebus

  19 Jun 17, 12:31

  Three doors single deck is okay but not the extend that its raised higher at the rear..Senior Citizens won't alight at the third door for sure..At least one step platform like the Dennis Lance is acceptable.

• carbikebus

  19 Jun 17, 12:55

  If LTA decided to bulk purchase this bus,Then here are some improvements to take note 

  1:Windows no need so big,Standard size is enough..

  2:Centre doors should move a bit front..

  3:Rear platform shouldn't be too high and third door floor also no need until 3 steps.

  4:If possible,Request MAN to custom 12.3m chassis.If Possible..

  Lastly,Spread to all operators including the 12.8m A95������

• SG5064X

  19 Jun 17, 18:30

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  If LTA decided to bulk purchase this bus,Then here are some improvements to take note 

  1:Windows no need so big,Standard size is enough..

  2:Centre doors should move a bit front..

  3:Rear platform shouldn't be too high and third door floor also no need until 3 steps.

  4:If possible,Request MAN to custom 12.3m chassis.If Possible..

  Lastly,Spread to all operators including the 12.8m A95������

  SBST & GA may still reject :-(

• Singtel Sticker

  19 Jun 17, 18:39

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  If LTA decided to bulk purchase this bus,Then here are some improvements to take note 

  1:Windows no need so big,Standard size is enough..

  2:Centre doors should move a bit front..

  3:Rear platform shouldn't be too high and third door floor also no need until 3 steps.

  4:If possible,Request MAN to custom 12.3m chassis.If Possible..

  Lastly,Spread to all operators including the 12.8m A95������

  The windows are standard size(except the portion above the SMRT logo in offisde and nearside..is the livery that made the windows look big.

• carbikebus

  19 Jun 17, 19:54

  Originally posted by SG5064X:

  SBST & GA may still reject :-(

  Unless they have their own three doors Citaro and B9TL..If big boss wanna go ahead with the plans,They have no say.

• wsy1234

  20 Jun 17, 07:42

  people in toa payoh already use to sbst KUBs that with two wheels chairs space with liimted sitting at the back. I think smrt also have bus that have two wheels chairs right? 

  But LTA should deploy this 3 doors at feeder bus services instead of city service. 

• SMB315C

  20 Jun 17, 12:15

  Originally posted by wsy1234:

  people in toa payoh already use to sbst KUBs that with two wheels chairs space with liimted sitting at the back. I think smrt also have bus that have two wheels chairs right? 

  But LTA should deploy this 3 doors at feeder bus services instead of city service. 

  SMRT got OCs..

• carbikebus

  20 Jun 17, 12:39

  Bulim & Loyang should include OCs and KUBs respectively..

• Rui jing

  20 Jun 17, 17:02

  I think for the citaro, the aisle is very narrow in front due to the facing seats instead of the vertical layout of the kub.

  What makes it worse is that there is this grabpole on the right when boarding that juts out and makes the aisle even more narrow. They could remove it and install horizonal grabpole at the edge of the cargo rack on that side so that space can be widened abit.

  Smrt batch 1 citaros don't have those poles if anyone noticed.

  The positioning of the grabpoles makes a difference as well to walking space on the bus. Cheers

• TIB429E

  21 Jun 17, 02:03

  What if the wheelchair bay is position such that they enter and exit via the front doors? Could probably save space by adding single leaf doors as the 2nd and third tho. 

  Maybe can try implementing this way. 

  Another suggestions is to add back the seats at the rear standing area...it's so "awkward" standing there 

• SMB1368T

  21 Jun 17, 05:53

  Tht would mean putting the wheelchair bay next to the front doors 

• SMB128B

  23 Jun 17, 09:43

  Originally posted by SMB1368T:

  Tht would mean putting the wheelchair bay next to the front doors 

  There are both advantages and disadvantages to it.. The good is ofc that it's also nearer for the BC..

  Although if its to be at the front the PIW must wear seatbelt.. Coz the turning momentum is greater at the ends of the bus than the middle..

• SMB1368T

  23 Jun 17, 10:59

  Though the con is that people would crowd around there when it's not in use