Originally posted by phillipC:Sv160 never get any benefits from BSEP.....sad case
Did get 2 fleet add. Had only 13 buses operating, now 15. But yes it took 3 years after BSEP to get those fleet add.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
you're right. 156 loading is not that low BusAnalayzer claimed. Buses can be packed along Boundary Rd to Bishan Stn. There is also loading from Bishan to Thomson.
Okay fine - didn't say it does not have people boarding 156. The current fleet manages the current load quite nicely. It is not a packed-to-door kind of service. Some timings may fetch around 50-55 pax, most will be around 20-30 pax.
Hence, there is no need for any fleet add. Just as a reminder, even 156A was withdrawn, which is quite rare to happen during the BSEP fleet add scenario. It is done because the loading over the years has significantly dropped on 156 (and more so after sv 50 was launched).
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Backup as in "not the main service in consideration".
There is 851 from Marymount to Yishun, there is 74 from AMK Ave 6 till King Alber Park, there is 157 from Macritchie to Bukit Batok and several other services like 66/174 from Bukit Timah till Bukit Batok.
Hence loading on 852 is so low. It is there because of legacy reasons. Even if it is done away with, won't cause an eye lid to battle except those who insist people take 852 from Yishun to Bukit Batok (which is really a joke).
852 is deprived of demand coz its main sectors have alternatives...
I have already said many times, 852 has great potential, it provides foundation for DTL2 rationalisation... So that svcs like 67 and 157 could fly BKT Rd... And surplus buses could boost 852 currently unappealing freq
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Backup as in "not the main service in consideration".
There is 851 from Marymount to Yishun, there is 74 from AMK Ave 6 till King Alber Park, there is 157 from Macritchie to Bukit Batok and several other services like 66/174 from Bukit Timah till Bukit Batok.
Hence loading on 852 is so low. It is there because of legacy reasons. Even if it is done away with, won't cause an eye lid to battle except those who insist people take 852 from Yishun to Bukit Batok (which is really a joke).
I agree with your point, however 852 is still needed to lessen the loading on 74. Esp Ard late afernoon to end of PM peak where the Bt Timah stretch is filling the buses even though there is DTL now. Lesser people board to Marymount due to DTL-CCL, but people are taking 852 to further up like YCK where 851 only duplicates from Marymount.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:When will the modified Upp Aljunied Rd open? SBST fleet add sv 100 like siao and bunching here and there.
2018.
There is sv 100 every 05 mins from Serangoon Interchange in PM. Every alternate bus is 100A.
Like Henderson Road was chopped, Upper Aljunied should have also.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:2018.
There is sv 100 every 05 mins from Serangoon Interchange in PM. Every alternate bus is 100A.
Like Henderson Road was chopped, Upper Aljunied should have also.
32 knn... violates the 15 min rule during peak hours, hands down.
40 also, need more BSEP buses.
Originally posted by SBS6465E:32 knn... violates the 15 min rule during peak hours, hands down.
40 also, need more BSEP buses.
I think these two type of svc is exceptional,demand not that great afterall..What they can do is tweak the freq between 9-16 mins during peak and 14-19 mins during off peak.
Originally posted by SBS6465E:32 knn... violates the 15 min rule during peak hours, hands down.
40 also, need more BSEP buses.
Originally posted by SBS6465E:32 knn... violates the 15 min rule during peak hours, hands down.
40 also, need more BSEP buses.
No need la.. Current fleet is managing very well.. Where you see loading on sv 32 & 40 to add more BSEP? Already 40 got one... more than enough.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
64 also. Can wait until 20-25 mins. Another svc that never benefitted from BSEP. Pitty Stirling/Mei Ling residents. Root also very funny.
64 not so bad... Frequency is actually 12-14 mins... But yes the long looping point can cause delays...
Sterling/Mei Ling is a dying estate... Lot of people from there already have moved on to newer developments.
There used to be a time when 64 would come out full from Mei Ling, now just has about 25-30 pax on most timings during peak hours. Off peak even worse.
64's main loading comes around Little India-Macpherson stretch where you also have 65 and 66 in parallel.
141 from toa payoh to Caldecott MRT Station timing need to improve during peak hours. maybe 141m loop from the caldecott mrt station to toa payoh will be better during peak hour. 235 is way too long to serve people from toa payoh mrt to caldecott mrt station. or maybe bring in 231.
Originally posted by wsy1234:141 from toa payoh to Caldecott MRT Station timing need to improve during peak hours. maybe 141m loop from the caldecott mrt station to toa payoh will be better during peak hour. 235 is way too long to serve people from toa payoh mrt to caldecott mrt station. or maybe bring in 231.
Originally posted by wsy1234:141 from toa payoh to Caldecott MRT Station timing need to improve during peak hours. maybe 141m loop from the caldecott mrt station to toa payoh will be better during peak hour. 235 is way too long to serve people from toa payoh mrt to caldecott mrt station. or maybe bring in 231.
Maybe once TEL is up and running may need to boost 141 but as of now doing okay. Buses have around 30-45 pax between Caldecott and Toa Payoh at most peak hour timings. So not sure if there is need to add bus when loading throughout is just so-so.
235 got around 3-4 fleet add so the frequency is pretty good and connects most part of Toa Payoh town with direct connection to Caldecott MRT.
as of now 141 demand still moderate, no fleet add / capacity upgrade required
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:64 not so bad... Frequency is actually 12-14 mins... But yes the long looping point can cause delays...
Sterling/Mei Ling is a dying estate... Lot of people from there already have moved on to newer developments.
There used to be a time when 64 would come out full from Mei Ling, now just has about 25-30 pax on most timings during peak hours. Off peak even worse.
64's main loading comes around Little India-Macpherson stretch where you also have 65 and 66 in parallel.
Agreed,I chit chat with my former Hgdep BC friend also say the same thing..And 64 till now cannot use full DDs..Loadings has since dropped.
Originally posted by hgdep103:as of now 141 demand still moderate, no fleet add / capacity upgrade required
141 shake here and there,Off peak only see ghost take..
Originally posted by carbikebus:141 shake here and there,Off peak only see ghost take..
141 cut runtime alr, now twd geylang need chiong a bit, twd tpy still can crawl
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
But Caldecott Stn no ppl leh. 231 amend also can, got sv 59 with DDs to compliment. Can also amend sv 156 to provide new connection to Macritchi/Mt Alvernia and Catholic Jc there.
there are many people taking 235 during peak hours. 235 is taking too long to reach toa payoh hub one long loop. 141 provide a shorter router to toa payoh hub. the timing of 141 during is very bad 15-18 min during peak hours. maybe there is traffic jam but if LTA can have a 141M or put in rerouted 231 which is more direct to the toa payoh hub will be better.
I think maybe get another trunk service like 143, 139 or 145 to passby the Caldecott. 156 or 153 is the idea case. New TM MRT line 2020? and new hdb flats coming in 2017 i think there will be high demand for 235 and 141