Route Suggestions (Part 7)

• SBS6853S

  14 Aug 16, 19:56

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Then 76 got sense by your logic?Then 53 under Sgoon/Eunos got sense?If you want me in IMH then i suggest you bring along those LTA ppl,Not just me..Why not happy just because I disagree with something about your post ah?Nitpicking me now,Come let the game begin.

  honestly the 76 planner need to go IMH first 

• BusAnalayzer

  14 Aug 16, 22:22

  Originally posted by SBS6853S:

  honestly the 76 planner need to go IMH first 

  I hope they can restore 76 back to Marine Crescent > Still road and make to terminate at Eunos. No need for 134 or 150 then.

• TIB 585L

  14 Aug 16, 22:32

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  I hope they can restore 76 back to Marine Crescent > Still road and make to terminate at Eunos. No need for 134 or 150 then.

  
  134 and 150 can combine and make another service go somewhere else though
• BusAnalayzer

  14 Aug 16, 23:16

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  
  134 and 150 can combine and make another service go somewhere else though

  Like how? What's your proposal?

• dupdup77

  14 Aug 16, 23:20

  Huh? Still on Sbs 76/134/150? It is already cast in stone. Cheers. Thanks. 

• TIB 585L

  14 Aug 16, 23:21

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  Like how? What's your proposal?

  
  Idk can start from Sims Place, go thru geylang, paya lebar, marine parade, telok kurau, Bedok North, ITE Simei,Tampines North int. Can help ease 31 a bit and give another alternative to those ITE Simei personnel other than 31 n 118
• BusAnalayzer

  14 Aug 16, 23:23

  Route amendment - sv 197

  Jurong East Interchange

  Jurong East Central

  Boon Lay Way

  Jurong East St 11 (exp)

  Jurong Townhall road

  continues on current route until Parkway Parade

  Marine Parade Road 

  Still Road

  Sims Ave East

  Chai Chee Dr

  Chai Chee St

  Bedok North Interchange

  * Connects Jurong Hospital/Ng Teng Fong to housing estates along AYE. No inconvenience to pax as there will still be sv 97 that runs in parallel until Alexandra road junction

  * Connects important amenities such as Parkway Parade, eateries along Tanjong Katong road, Marine Parade NPC/Library, schools to Sims Ave East/Changi Road, Chai Chee with no connection today. No inconvenience to pax as there will still be sv 31/196 connecting Marine Parade to Bedok MRT and other options such as sv 16 along the way.

• BusAnalayzer

  14 Aug 16, 23:26

  Route amendment - sv 26

  Toa Payoh Interchange

  current route

  Chai Chee St

  Bedok North Ave 1

  Bedok North Road (DTL3 MRT)

  Bedok Reservoir Road

  Bedok North Ave 3 (DTL3 MRT)

  Bedok North Road

  New Upper Changi Road

  Bedok South Ave 3

  Upper East Coast Road

  UEC Terminal

  * Connect Chai Chee estate to upcoming DTL 3 MRT

  * Connects Bedok Reservoir Road to Bedok North DTL3 MRT

  * Connects Bedok Reservoir DTL3 MRT to Bedok North Road (alternative to 46) and Bedok South Ave 3 (sv 46 route modified).

• BusAnalayzer

  14 Aug 16, 23:32

  Route amendment - sv 46

  Changi Business Park

  Changi South Ave 2

  Changi South Ave 1

  Xilin Ave

  Upper Changi Road East

  Tanah Merah MRT

  New Upper Changi Road

  Bedok North Road

  Bedok North Ave 3

  Bedok Reservoir Road

  Tampines Ave 4/3/St 83

  Tampines Ave 5 / Tampines Stadium

  Century Square / Tampines Ave 4 MRT

  Tampines Ave 7 (DTL 3: Tampines East)

  Tampines St 32/34

  Tampines St 35

  Tampines Ave 9

  Tampines Ave 7 (DTL 3: Tampines East) - looping point.

  * Connects Changi Business Park to Tanah Merah MRT (alternative to sv 47), Bedok North Road and Bedok Reservoir DTL3

  * Connects Tampines East DTL3 MRT to Tampines st 32/34/45 as this will be fastest connection. No existing service today. sv 293 is one way on st 45 and stop on ave 9 will be far from DTL3 MRT. 

  * Provides intra-town connectivity to upcoming Tampines Stadium & Hawker Center, Tampines Swimming Pool, Century Square, Tampines Mall, Tampines Mart. 

• SMB3163D

  15 Aug 16, 14:58

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• carbikebus

  24 Aug 16, 08:56

  Is it possible to extend svc 42 to Upp East Coast Ter?From UEC via Fidelio St and looping at Lengkong Empat?

• gekpohboy

  28 Aug 16, 10:11

  Bus route 247

  Trunk service.

  approximately 13.23km.

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Street 64
  4. Jurong West Central 1
  5. Boon Lay Avenue
  6. Corporation Road
  7. Boon Lay Way (Lakeside MRT Station)
  8. Yuan Ching Road
  9. Kang Ching Road
  10. Corporation Drive
  11. Corporation Road
  12. Yung Ho Road
  13. Corporation Drive
  14. Yung Kuang Road
  15. Corporation Road
  16. Corporation Drive
  17. Kang Ching Road
  18. Yuan Ching Road
  19. Boon Lay Way (Lakeside MRT Station)
  20. Corporation Road
  21. Boon Lay Avenue
  22. Jurong West Central 1
  23. Jurong West Street 64
  24. Jurong West Central 3
  25. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  Travel time: around 67 minutes (with reference to bus service 49).

  Catchment: around 730 (Taman Jurong) to 1,134 (Boon Lay) households.

  Recommended frequency: 8 - 11 minutes (same as bus route 49).

  Expected peak hour demand: around 25 people per bus.

  Recommended fleet: 7 - 9 units of Mercedes-Benz Citaro.

• SBS9252G

  28 Aug 16, 14:24

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Bus route 247

  Trunk service.

  approximately 13.23km.

  1. Boon Lay Bus Interchange
  2. Jurong West Central 3
  3. Jurong West Street 64
  4. Jurong West Central 1
  5. Boon Lay Avenue
  6. Corporation Road
  7. Boon Lay Way (Lakeside MRT Station)
  8. Yuan Ching Road
  9. Kang Ching Road
  10. Corporation Drive
  11. Corporation Road
  12. Yung Ho Road
  13. Corporation Drive
  14. Yung Kuang Road
  15. Corporation Road
  16. Corporation Drive
  17. Kang Ching Road
  18. Yuan Ching Road
  19. Boon Lay Way (Lakeside MRT Station)
  20. Corporation Road
  21. Boon Lay Avenue
  22. Jurong West Central 1
  23. Jurong West Street 64
  24. Jurong West Central 3
  25. Boon Lay Bus Interchange

  Travel time: around 67 minutes (with reference to bus service 49).

  Catchment: around 730 (Taman Jurong) to 1,134 (Boon Lay) households.

  Recommended frequency: 8 - 11 minutes (same as bus route 49).

  Expected peak hour demand: around 25 people per bus.

  Recommended fleet: 7 - 9 units of Mercedes-Benz Citaro.

  i believe 240,246 and 49 is enough to serve them to JE, JP

• carbikebus

  28 Aug 16, 20:30

  Can anyone guess what numbers will be use for next month new service?

  My guess will be 137 & 164.

• TIB 585L

  28 Aug 16, 21:07

  How about 71? :P
• carbikebus

  28 Aug 16, 21:12

  Originally posted by TIB 585L:

  How about 71?

  Maybe for Tampines.

• AJQZC

  28 Aug 16, 23:05

  This may well be an absolutely stupid move, but ... sometimes it could well be a good response to already existing stupid measures.

  ==================

  Overview (TL;DR):

  - 47 to reroute to 150's route, skipping Parkway Parade & Amber Rd (DDs to be lost)

  - 47M between CBP and Tanah Merah during peak hours (with DDs)

  - 150 overhauled, between Eunos and NBR Term, bridging Marine Parade and CBD (with DDs)

  ==================

  
  

  Amendment to service 47:

  • Changi Business Park Term
  • (current route to Marine Parade Rd)
  • Marine Terr   (one-way only; return via Marine Parade Rd)
  • Marine Cres   (two-way)
  • Marine Parade Rd (non-stop)
  • Telok Kurau Rd
  • Joo Chiat Pl
  • Still Rd
  • Changi Rd   (return via Sims Ave)
  • Jln Turi
  • Eunos Int

  Introduction of peak hour service 47M (AM peak towards CBP, PM peak towards UEC:)

  • Changi Business Park Term
  • (current route to Tanah Merah MRT)
  • Bedok South Ave 3   (Blk 50 stop only)
  • Upp East Coast Rd   (non-stop)
  • Upp East Coast Term

   

  Overhaul of service 150:

  • Eunos Int
  • Sims Ave   (return via Jln Turi / Changi Rd)
  • Still Rd
  • East Coast Rd
  • Telok Kurau Rd
  • Marine Terr   (one-way only; loopback)
  • Marine Parade Rd   (one-way only)
  • Marine Cres   (two-way, provisional, may be omitted; )
  • Marine Parade Rd
  • Amber Rd
  • Mountbatten Rd
  • Fort Rd
  • ECP (express)
  • Rochor Rd   (return via Ophir Rd)
  • Beach Rd   (*subject to change by demand; may be better to go via Bugis Junction instead)
  • Middle Rd
  • Victoria St
  • Stamford Rd   (return via Bras Basah Rd)
  • Orchard / Penang / Somerset / Grange Rds / Orchard Blvd (return via Orchard Rd)
  • Paterson Rd
  • Irwell Bank Rd   (return via Hoot Kiam Rd)
  • River Valley Rd
  • Delta Rd
  • Lower Delta Rd
  • Tiong Bahru Rd
  • Kim Tian Rd
  • Jln Bt Merah
  • New Bridge Rd / Kampong Bahru Term

  ==================

   

  In response to this, this and with noted loading levels from this.

  
  

  Considering that 47's prime loading is between CBP and Tanah Merah, and both 47 and 150 are BSEP, this allows for the original 47 to be diverted to serve 150's sector, skipping Marine Parade (which has medium loading and is easily covered by 31, 196, 197). While 47 will have its fleet downgraded to SDs (while taking over all of 150's), 47M with full DDs will be introduced in its place to cover the crowd during peak hours.

  After which, the original 150 will be free to be amended to cover the heaviest loading sectors between the CBD and Marine Parade, following most of 36's route and some parts of 48's and 196's. DDs will be deployed on the new route. The problem/excuse of having "additional" services along Marine Parade Rd will not be applicable as it's either 47 having replaced 150, or the other way around, so the number of services remain the same. Politics issues (if any) are taken care of.

  47 will now do the entirety of Marine Cres in both directions, and Marine Terr towards Eunos. The sector from Eunos to Marine Terr is patched up by the new 150, while the sector between Parkway Parade and Marine Cres is already served by 134. If necessary, 150 can also do Marine Cres in both directions to relieve 16.

  And the best thing is: both routes will be bidirectional after the change.

   

  Possible problems:

  • - Lack of terminating space for a new service at Eunos Int, as well as New Bridge Rd Term.
  • - Lack of DDs for new 150, or enough SDs to make up for 47's lost DDs.
  • - 150's new route being too long.
  • - Loss of the loop at Marine Parade Rd / Amber Rd. (Perhaps a possible replacement would be 196M to loop around? Only if absolutely necessary; best not touch either 15 or 966)
  • - Loss of a direct link from Telok Kurau to Marine Terr - something LTA might be particularly picky on. A possible solution is to have 47 from Eunos loop at Marine Terr before crossing back to Marine Cres which adds to the journey time, but can save 150 from the need to ply Marine Terr.
  • - DD restrictions at Ophir Rd / Rochor Rd / Kim Tian Rd. To be checked.
  • - Right-turning restriction from Marine Cres to Marine Parade Rd. If true, re-route 47 to serve Still Rd South & East Coast Rd instead.

  ==================

  Please comment. Thanks.

• carbikebus

  28 Aug 16, 23:17

  New Bridge Rd Ter will be relocated further near the junction of Kg Bahru Rd.

• SBS3004X

  29 Aug 16, 14:53

  Chopping super long loop bus routes. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. 

  SMRT Service 967 (after Hougang expansion completed) WLDEP

  Woodlands - Hougang

  Route:

  Woodlands Int

  858 route to Jalan Kayu

  TPE

  Sengkang East Rd

  Sengkang East Ave

  Sengkang Ctrl

  Hougang Ave 6

  Hougang Ave 10

  Hougang Ctrl Int

  I wanted to use Sengkang at first, but there is already a lack of space there. 

  Majority DD fleet. This may need another batch of A95s.

  SMRT Service 858 (AMDEP/LYDEP)

  Yishun - Changi Airport

  Yishun Int 

  Lentor Ave

  SLE/TPE

  Jalan Kayu

  Continue 858 route to Changi Airport

• dupdup77

  29 Aug 16, 14:59

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  This may well be an absolutely stupid move, but ... sometimes it could well be a good response to already existing stupid measures.

  ==================

  Overview (TL;DR):

  - 47 to reroute to 150's route, skipping Parkway Parade & Amber Rd (DDs to be lost)

  - 47M between CBP and Tanah Merah during peak hours (with DDs)

  - 150 overhauled, between Eunos and NBR Term, bridging Marine Parade and CBD (with DDs)

  ==================

  
  

  Amendment to service 47:

  • Changi Business Park Term
  • (current route to Marine Parade Rd)
  • Marine Terr   (one-way only; return via Marine Parade Rd)
  • Marine Cres   (two-way)
  • Marine Parade Rd (non-stop)
  • Telok Kurau Rd
  • Joo Chiat Pl
  • Still Rd
  • Changi Rd   (return via Sims Ave)
  • Jln Turi
  • Eunos Int

  Introduction of peak hour service 47M (AM peak towards CBP, PM peak towards UEC:)

  • Changi Business Park Term
  • (current route to Tanah Merah MRT)
  • Bedok South Ave 3   (Blk 50 stop only)
  • Upp East Coast Rd   (non-stop)
  • Upp East Coast Term

   

  Overhaul of service 150:

  • Eunos Int
  • Sims Ave   (return via Jln Turi / Changi Rd)
  • Still Rd
  • East Coast Rd
  • Telok Kurau Rd
  • Marine Terr   (one-way only; loopback)
  • Marine Parade Rd   (one-way only)
  • Marine Cres   (two-way, provisional, may be omitted; )
  • Marine Parade Rd
  • Amber Rd
  • Mountbatten Rd
  • Fort Rd
  • ECP (express)
  • Rochor Rd   (return via Ophir Rd)
  • Beach Rd   (*subject to change by demand; may be better to go via Bugis Junction instead)
  • Middle Rd
  • Victoria St
  • Stamford Rd   (return via Bras Basah Rd)
  • Orchard / Penang / Somerset / Grange Rds / Orchard Blvd (return via Orchard Rd)
  • Paterson Rd
  • Irwell Bank Rd   (return via Hoot Kiam Rd)
  • River Valley Rd
  • Delta Rd
  • Lower Delta Rd
  • Tiong Bahru Rd
  • Kim Tian Rd
  • Jln Bt Merah
  • New Bridge Rd / Kampong Bahru Term

  ==================

   

  In response to this, this and with noted loading levels from this.

  
  

  Considering that 47's prime loading is between CBP and Tanah Merah, and both 47 and 150 are BSEP, this allows for the original 47 to be diverted to serve 150's sector, skipping Marine Parade (which has medium loading and is easily covered by 31, 196, 197). While 47 will have its fleet downgraded to SDs (while taking over all of 150's), 47M with full DDs will be introduced in its place to cover the crowd during peak hours.

  After which, the original 150 will be free to be amended to cover the heaviest loading sectors between the CBD and Marine Parade, following most of 36's route and some parts of 48's and 196's. DDs will be deployed on the new route. The problem/excuse of having "additional" services along Marine Parade Rd will not be applicable as it's either 47 having replaced 150, or the other way around, so the number of services remain the same. Politics issues (if any) are taken care of.

  47 will now do the entirety of Marine Cres in both directions, and Marine Terr towards Eunos. The sector from Eunos to Marine Terr is patched up by the new 150, while the sector between Parkway Parade and Marine Cres is already served by 134. If necessary, 150 can also do Marine Cres in both directions to relieve 16.

  And the best thing is: both routes will be bidirectional after the change.

   

  Possible problems:

  • - Lack of terminating space for a new service at Eunos Int, as well as New Bridge Rd Term.
  • - Lack of DDs for new 150, or enough SDs to make up for 47's lost DDs.
  • - 150's new route being too long.
  • - Loss of the loop at Marine Parade Rd / Amber Rd. (Perhaps a possible replacement would be 196M to loop around? Only if absolutely necessary; best not touch either 15 or 966)
  • - Loss of a direct link from Telok Kurau to Marine Terr - something LTA might be particularly picky on. A possible solution is to have 47 from Eunos loop at Marine Terr before crossing back to Marine Cres which adds to the journey time, but can save 150 from the need to ply Marine Terr.
  • - DD restrictions at Ophir Rd / Rochor Rd / Kim Tian Rd. To be checked.
  • - Right-turning restriction from Marine Cres to Marine Parade Rd. If true, re-route 47 to serve Still Rd South & East Coast Rd instead.

  ==================

  Please comment. Thanks.

  Hi mr AJQZC, there is enough terminating space at eunos interchange. You no need worry about this. Your suggested change may be slightly complicated as need to introduce 47M. Cheers. 

• dupdup77

  29 Aug 16, 15:06

  
  

   

• Sbs6750E

  29 Aug 16, 15:13

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr sbs3004X, don't just chop without any logical sense. Also if you are concerned with lack of space, what difference is there between choosing Hougang and sengkang? Moreover, the only route from north of Singapore to CGA is gone. Many commuters from north will be up in arms over this. Cheers. Thanks.

  
  sengkang and Punggol ppl will lose their fast way to CGA/Sembawang.
• SBS3004X

  29 Aug 16, 15:16

  Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

  
  sengkang and Punggol ppl will lose their fast way to CGA/Sembawang.

  How to keep a 73km route?

  There is a 858 from Yishun to Changi Airport.

• TIB 585L

  29 Aug 16, 15:18

  Originally posted by SBS3004X:

  How to keep a 73km route?

  
  Just keep ah. Dont touch it. Then Woodlands Admiralty residents how? U want them and myself just to go to yishun just to take to airport? Waste my time when we all have direct bus.
• SBS3004X

  29 Aug 16, 15:22

  Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

  
  sengkang and Punggol ppl will lose their fast way to CGA/Sembawang.

  There is a 858 to CGA and 967 to Sembawang.

  858 still calls at the long TPE bus stop as well as the Jalan Kayu roundabout bus stops.

  The only problem is loss of direct link from Sembawang/Woodlands to Airport.