Bus Contracting Model (part 2)
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I do hope Bt Merah package can exclude 160/170 in exchange with 91/191.93 can exchange with 80.186 should go Bt Merah package.
186 should swap with 145.
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Originally posted by iveco:
186 should swap with 145.
132 & 186 should include to make it 20..
By the way i think for Seletar package,SMRT side might transfer all the 3xxx series and a few A95s too.Rest is all Citaros and B9TLs.
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BUS logo should be made smaller, smaller than the bus operator logo. I don't think it's important to show the logo in that size. What matters to the public is the logo of the bus operator. Furthermore, with a common livery now, and a small sized number, it makes commuters hard to identify the buses he/she is waiting(i.e. only SMRT/SBST svces at the stop)
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Yeah SG1059M and you saw the BC?
BC still got who else sia
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
SG
BUS logo should be made smaller, smaller than the bus
operator logo. I don't think it's important to show the logo in that size. What matters to the public is the logo of the bus operator. Furthermore, with a common livery now, and a small sized number, it makes commuters hard to identify the buses he/she is waiting(i.e. only SMRT/SBST svces at the stop)
True leh,But again LTA had their own way.
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http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/public-transport-fares-may-be-standardised
PTC finally comes to the realisation that the current fares are not sustainable at all, much less the current fare formula.
Not surprised if they choose to switch to Transperth's fare zone model, or even a flat fare system used by Adelaide Metro (both operated by TT in Australia).
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Since not many commuters take from one end to another this is what they had planned.
Maybe fare start from $2-$3.50 max for trunk,$3-$5 max for Express.
Senior/Child and work concession increase by 20 cents?
Its time to recoup all those $$$$$$$$ spent on bus/train purchasing/Upgrading infrastructures,BC salaries etc hahahah.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/public-transport-fares-may-be-standardised
PTC finally comes to the realisation that the current fares are not sustainable at all, much less the current fare formula.
Not surprised if they choose to switch to Transperth's fare zone model, or even a flat fare system used by Adelaide Metro (both operated by TT in Australia).
Please STOP introducing stupid bus routes and add buses to feeder services like it doesn't cost anything.
Ofcourse fares will not be sustainable. I have been shouting about this for a long time to stop creating these stupid PPSS, add 20 buses to 291 and WDL Feeders and introduce routes like 46, 256 with DDs.
Ofcourse LTA is going to bleed one day and then start chopping everyhting and increasing fares.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Since not many commuters take from one end to another this is what they had planned.
Maybe fare start from $2-$3.50 max for trunk,$3-$5 max for Express.
Senior/Child and work concession increase by 20 cents?
Its time to recoup all those $$$$$$$$ spent on bus/train purchasing/Upgrading infrastructures,BC salaries etc hahahah.
If I understand PTC's statement correctly, Express and trunk fares will be the same.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Please STOP introducing stupid bus routes and add buses to feeder services like it doesn't cost anything.
Ofcourse fares will not be sustainable. I have been shouting about this for a long time to stop creating these stupid PPSS, add 20 buses to 291 and WDL Feeders and introduce routes like 46, 256 with DDs.
Ofcourse LTA is going to bleed one day and then start chopping everyhting and increasing fares.
Do you know the actual reason why svc 68 is delayed and until next year brother?
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imo it is still distance based. Though if they increase the fares any more, it just defeats the aim of being car lite.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
imo it is still distance based. Though if they increase the fares any more, it just defeats the aim of being car lite.
You think LTA care much?Fares isn't the only reason to make Drivers left their vehicles at home or totally dont use car at all..Its the winding routes that deter most drivers from taking buses beside the slower than usual speed..Trains?With higher breakdown rates and packed like sardines?Thats one of the reason why i still kept my motorcycle and car.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
You think LTA care much?Fares isn't the only reason to make Drivers left their vehicles at home or totally dont use car at all..Its the winding routes that deter most drivers from taking buses beside the slower than usual speed..Trains?With higher breakdown rates and packed like sardines?Thats one of the reason why i still kept my motorcycle and car.
Agreed...
And worse still, LTA is using fare raise to cover all these winding routes etc... Essentially a lose-lose situation!!
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Do you know the actual reason why svc 68 is delayed and until next year brother?
Because there is really no need for sv 68 to be honest.
If it is Pasir Ris - Tampines service, you already have 3, 15, 17, 21, 39, 58, 81, 518 covering different parts of Tampines to Pasir Ris Town.
If purpose of 68 is to connect Tampines North new town, the new town will be operational from only 2019. So what's the purpose of introducing now and have empty buses running on it.
I think after 46 experience they may have decided to delay the launch.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
If I understand PTC's statement correctly, Express and trunk fares will be the same.
Ofc... Means trunk will raise more than Express drop lor...
Sinkypoor govt pattern we all know one la... Its all about the $$$
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Because there is really no need for sv 68 to be honest.
If it is Pasir Ris - Tampines service, you already have 3, 15, 17, 21, 39, 58, 81, 518 covering different parts of Tampines to Pasir Ris Town.
If purpose of 68 is to connect Tampines North new town, the new town will be operational from only 2019. So what's the purpose of introducing now and have empty buses running on it.
I think after 46 experience they may have decided to delay the launch.
Another reason,PSR is already at it maximum capacity..Ask them to start from Changi Village passingby Loyang depot,Hafiz from LTA replied too many duplicate..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Another reason,PSR is already at it maximum capacity..Ask them to start from Changi Village passingby Loyang depot,Hafiz from LTA replied too many duplicate..
Ha ha.. from when did LTA start caring about duplicating services. All their recent services duplicate majority part of the route. There are very few unique services that they launched.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
You think LTA care much?Fares isn't the only reason to make Drivers left their vehicles at home or totally dont use car at all..Its the winding routes that deter most drivers from taking buses beside the slower than usual speed..Trains?With higher breakdown rates and packed like sardines?Thats one of the reason why i still kept my motorcycle and car.
Already the train breaks down very often, buses happily doing merry go round, the last thing is cost. Slow transport maybe.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Agreed...
And worse still, LTA is using fare raise to cover all these winding routes etc... Essentially a lose-lose situation!!
Dafuq?
Are we already over paying for crap service?
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
Dafuq?
Are we already over paying for crap service?
As in, the recent fare raise...
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
Already the train breaks down very often, buses happily doing merry go round, the last thing is cost. Slow transport maybe.
When they reduce runtime its very short,Too short until BCs tend to skip bus stops and drive recklessly but when they add runtime,It too long and seriously too long until BCs kena whiplash by pax..Poor BCs only follow schedule also kena screw up for free..Salary only $1950 leh LTA not in UK where Drivers drive less hours,more off days but still earn 3-4k pound sterling per month leh.
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I do not think any government in the right state of mind would be so willing to provide $4 billion worth of fare subsidy for the GCM/BCM.
$3.90 Myki fare here we come...
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scrap all the bad svcs and long trunk svcs winding around should only pass by the winding sector...
like 858 no need wind so much, just ply main stops can liao and mayb wdl can round a little tho.. after that shud be mainly exp..
I agree express svcs fares shud be same as trunk right now tho.
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A while back someone said there's going to be 137 USB buses
of which 122 suspected a95. could the rest be the concept bus?
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Originally posted by A Bus Observer:
A while back someone said there's going to be 137 USB buses
of which 122 suspected a95. could the rest be the concept bus?
i asked that before hehe, someone told me that it's just the normal 12m A95 cos concept bus trial haven't pass iirc