is go ahead improving? any instance of long headway, midsing buses, hijacked?
Originally posted by A Bus Observer:is go ahead improving? any instance of long headway, midsing buses, hijacked?
There is slightly an improvement though can still be adjusted especially the runtime is too tight.No case of missing buses so far.
Svc that need refinement
Punggol:3,Can convert 2 more SD to DD
34:Add another full day shift bus.
43:Add 1 more full day duty and give more rest time at Upp East Coast,Current rest time is only 8-13 mins..Proposed between 11-17 mins.
43M:Convert 2 DD to SD..Upper deck only a few pax
62:Need to adjust runtime,Maintain headways.Terminate at Lor 1 Geylang Ter more better so BCs can go toilet or smoke break.If 17 can be bi-directional why 62 which is more longer can't?
82,83,84 & 119 so far so good.
85 i think got slight improvement after 8 SMRT BCs assist..But seriously no need full DDs.
136:Add 1 more full day bus and adjust runtime.
118:Should add 1 more split duty..
382 so far just average.386 need one more full duty.
S17A will do three trips non stop before resting at BDK Int for 14-18 mins..From outside Bndep given only 5 mins to OS and start trip back opp Bndep..Wahkao..
S17 better to loop at BDK,Rest time only from 7-13 mins.
Originally posted by carbikebus:There is slightly an improvement though can still be adjusted especially the runtime is too tight.No case of missing buses so far.
Svc that need refinement
Punggol:3,Can convert 2 more SD to DD
34:Add another full day shift bus.
43:Add 1 more full day duty and give more rest time at Upp East Coast,Current rest time is only 8-13 mins..Proposed between 11-17 mins.
43M:Convert 2 DD to SD..Upper deck only a few pax
62:Need to adjust runtime,Maintain headways.Terminate at Lor 1 Geylang Ter more better so BCs can go toilet or smoke break.If 17 can be bi-directional why 62 which is more longer can't?
82,83,84 & 119 so far so good.
85 i think got slight improvement after 8 SMRT BCs assist..But seriously no need full DDs.
136:Add 1 more full day bus and adjust runtime.
118:Should add 1 more split duty..
382 so far just average.386 need one more full duty.
43M downgrade 2 DD? I will rather have 2 DDs cut. Can reduce BCs also.
So today Go-ahead operate a trip of truly express 518 from suntec to pasir Ris. Special journey via the entire KPE then TPE then pasir ris. Skipping tampines.
Got ppl feedback that they waited 1 hr for sv36 at T3 on Friday afternoon. Buses that came are off service.
actually sv36 can start trip from T2(without pax) then off service to T3 to start new trip. Believe that there is a flyover along airport boulevard that can allow vehicle from T2 to go to T3.
No way can Go Ahead continue to operate a full fleet Shitaro.
Originally posted by lemon1974:Got ppl feedback that they waited 1 hr for sv36 at T3 on Friday afternoon. Buses that came are off service.
actually sv36 can start trip from T2(without pax) then off service to T3 to start new trip. Believe that there is a flyover along airport boulevard that can allow vehicle from T2 to go to T3.
Ask the ppl to go open their eyes BIG BIG and check the svc details then...
Nobody, yes NOBODY, would, and SHOULD board at T3 since it clearly says that buses operate off T2 and T3 is only an alighting stop for inbound buses. If one wants to take 36 he got to move over to T2 and board there. It isn't that far away either what!
Originally posted by SMB128B:Ask the ppl to go open their eyes BIG BIG and check the svc details then...
Nobody, yes NOBODY, would, and SHOULD board at T3 since it clearly says that buses operate off T2 and T3 is only an alighting stop for inbound buses. If one wants to take 36 he got to move over to T2 and board there. It isn't that far away either what!
If in that case, might as well give Svc 36 back to SBS Transit and have it the way it used to be. I agree that it is not far away but it maybe gives a bad impression to the tourist that you have to board it at T2 instead of boarding at T3 and T1 where their flights lands.
So must get Go-Ahead deploy staff and inform the passengers. Common for Singaporeans and some tourist not to read the service details as they have a guide book and all guide books do mention that Svc 36 goes to City from Terminal 3, 1 & 2.
Just my opinion... But I do think it is very absurb to have those wanting to take svc 36 to board the service from T2 instead of right at where they landed in T3 & T1
Originally posted by SMB128B:Ask the ppl to go open their eyes BIG BIG and check the svc details then...
Nobody, yes NOBODY, would, and SHOULD board at T3 since it clearly says that buses operate off T2 and T3 is only an alighting stop for inbound buses. If one wants to take 36 he got to move over to T2 and board there. It isn't that far away either what!
All the way there is no issue in boarding at T3. So did Go-ahead change the route? If so, they should remove the 36 queue at T3/T1. Is there any poster that T1/T3 that ask paxes who wan to board sv36 to go to T2? Further , the paxes were able to board a sv36 bus after 1 hour. So that mean that sv36 is still picking up paxes. Just that GA screw up the operation by making many buses off service at that timing.
Originally posted by lemon1974:All the way there is no issue in boarding at T3. So did Go-ahead change the route? If so, they should remove the 36 queue at T3/T1. Is there any poster that T1/T3 that ask paxes who wan to board sv36 to go to T2? Further , the paxes were able to board a sv36 bus after 1 hour. So that mean that sv36 is still picking up paxes. Just that GA screw up the operation by making many buses off service at that timing.
You all should continue to screw GA until you all feel happy or LTA kick out GA lor..As for me I didn't give a hoot also,As long i follow LTA schedule I'm safe..
It is high time LTA does something about the bus infrastructure at CGA. There is so much time wasted per bus moving from one terminal to another, do security check everytime and the basements are usually hot and unhealthy with fumes.
Buses should just operate on the main level like taxis do. They can relook the map of CGA and figure out a way to do it.
Now with T4 coming up next year, what each bus will enter T4 as well??
If they do it by the roadside without these security checks, the movement between terminals will be quick and even faster even after doing T4.
Wake up LTA on CGA bus infra.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:It is high time LTA does something about the bus infrastructure at CGA. There is so much time wasted per bus moving from one terminal to another, do security check everytime and the basements are usually hot and unhealthy with fumes.
Buses should just operate on the main level like taxis do. They can relook the map of CGA and figure out a way to do it.
Now with T4 coming up next year, what each bus will enter T4 as well??
If they do it by the roadside without these security checks, the movement between terminals will be quick and even faster even after doing T4.
Wake up LTA on CGA bus infra.
Good point made there. But if let say if the bus does go to the main level, would it like cause some conjestion esp when there r taxis and other vehicles at the pickup/dropoff areas?
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:It is high time LTA does something about the bus infrastructure at CGA. There is so much time wasted per bus moving from one terminal to another, do security check everytime and the basements are usually hot and unhealthy with fumes.
Buses should just operate on the main level like taxis do. They can relook the map of CGA and figure out a way to do it.
Now with T4 coming up next year, what each bus will enter T4 as well??
If they do it by the roadside without these security checks, the movement between terminals will be quick and even faster even after doing T4.
Wake up LTA on CGA bus infra.
High capacity service; 27 and 34.
Originally posted by CZT:Good point made there. But if let say if the bus does go to the main level, would it like cause some conjestion esp when there r taxis and other vehicles at the pickup/dropoff areas?
They will have to redraw some of the plans but it should be possible. Better than the current situation.
Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:High capacity service; 27 and 34.
24 and 53 too.
36 still got ECP ramp issue even though high loading.
Originally posted by lemon1974:All the way there is no issue in boarding at T3. So did Go-ahead change the route? If so, they should remove the 36 queue at T3/T1. Is there any poster that T1/T3 that ask paxes who wan to board sv36 to go to T2? Further , the paxes were able to board a sv36 bus after 1 hour. So that mean that sv36 is still picking up paxes. Just that GA screw up the operation by making many buses off service at that timing.
Uh thats not true...
During the SBST days TECHNICALLY no boarding is also offered at T1/3. Those who did get on will have their bus stop over at T2 for 10-15 min depending on when the next trip begins. The problem of inadequate signage lies in any person but the operator itself, probably CAAS. Any gesture by GA or SBST to inform pax can only be considered an initiative, where its lack thereof was also observed when SBST operated 36. The svc info clearly said operating from T2, and outbound directiom showed that after T2 the bus is not turning back at any terminal.
The reason why buses were all off svc was prob a practice of GA to turn its buses' EDS this way when it enters the terminals, to avoid confusion for commuters (people thinking this bus is city bound, when actl it will end svc at T2). The fact that it caused a confusion for these passengers could only be attributed to SBST misguiding pax that you could board at T1/3, by still turning on the 36 EDS. In other words, it is SBST's past practices that contributed to this problem. I feel GA is being the scapegoat here.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:It is high time LTA does something about the bus infrastructure at CGA. There is so much time wasted per bus moving from one terminal to another, do security check everytime and the basements are usually hot and unhealthy with fumes.
Buses should just operate on the main level like taxis do. They can relook the map of CGA and figure out a way to do it.
Now with T4 coming up next year, what each bus will enter T4 as well??
If they do it by the roadside without these security checks, the movement between terminals will be quick and even faster even after doing T4.
Wake up LTA on CGA bus infra.
Jewel...
Jewel...
The fact that one is not built there shows that these elitist and greedy imbeciles from CAAS and LTA are going to let you enjoy the fumes for another decade or beyond...
Originally posted by SMB128B:Uh thats not true...
During the SBST days TECHNICALLY no boarding is also offered at T1/3. Those who did get on will have their bus stop over at T2 for 10-15 min depending on when the next trip begins. The problem of inadequate signage lies in any person but the operator itself, probably CAAS. Any gesture by GA or SBST to inform pax can only be considered an initiative, where its lack thereof was also observed when SBST operated 36. The svc info clearly said operating from T2, and outbound directiom showed that after T2 the bus is not turning back at any terminal.
The reason why buses were all off svc was prob a practice of GA to turn its buses' EDS this way when it enters the terminals, to avoid confusion for commuters (people thinking this bus is city bound, when actl it will end svc at T2). The fact that it caused a confusion for these passengers could only be attributed to SBST misguiding pax that you could board at T1/3, by still turning on the 36 EDS. In other words, it is SBST's past practices that contributed to this problem. I feel GA is being the scapegoat here.
I remember taking Svc 36 from T3 to East Coast Park... I think passengers won't mind waiting in the bus for 10 - 15 mins rather than the "sometimes can be stuffy" boarding berth...
We know that Svc 36 starts and terminates at T2, I feel it should nt be a problem since even last time every Airport services (Svc 24, 27, 34, 53 excluding svc 858) having passengers boarding from every terminal when their end point was at T2
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:If in that case, might as well give Svc 36 back to SBS Transit and have it the way it used to be. I agree that it is not far away but it maybe gives a bad impression to the tourist that you have to board it at T2 instead of boarding at T3 and T1 where their flights lands.
So must get Go-Ahead deploy staff and inform the passengers. Common for Singaporeans and some tourist not to read the service details as they have a guide book and all guide books do mention that Svc 36 goes to City from Terminal 3, 1 & 2.
Just my opinion... But I do think it is very absurb to have those wanting to take svc 36 to board the service from T2 instead of right at where they landed in T3 & T1
I think being able to board at the terminal directly is a PRIVILEGE more than a given. Walking across the airport for transport connection is part and parcel of every airport, and if it compromises operations operators have no obligation to tailor its svcs to precisely cater to every single group. Of course, this is provided the inconvenience to commuters are not large. Do you think walking across an air conditioned walkway for 5 mins is a huge obstacle then?
I disagree that SBST should take back the svc. SBST still terminates at T2, but boards pax anyways and hold them up at T2. If you ask me what really ruins impressions of foreigners it is having a bus that one has waited for so long, only for it to stop halfway when he most expects it to already be on its way.
Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:I remember taking Svc 36 from T3 to East Coast Park... I think passengers won't mind waiting in the bus for 10 - 15 mins rather than the "sometimes can be stuffy" boarding berth...
We know that Svc 36 starts and terminates at T2, I feel it should nt be a problem since even last time every Airport services (Svc 24, 27, 34, 53 excluding svc 858) having passengers boarding from every terminal when their end point was at T2
What makes you think they MUST wait at the berth then? Passengers could either wait in the terminal, or ideally, plan their journey so they arrive EXACTLY at the timimg, or at least enough to reduce discomfort.
Even if we take that waiting is a pain. I dont think the problem is exclusive to T2, since one has to wait for the bus to arrive at T1/3 anyway.
Sure, you feel providing boarding at every terminal isnt a problem. But as I've said, it is a PRIVILEGE, not an absolute. The problem does not come with a privilege being provided, it is when a firm is blamed and shunned for failing to do so.
I think should have 36T(Terminating at T2) after BC enter ECP.
Originally posted by SMB128B:Uh thats not true...
During the SBST days TECHNICALLY no boarding is also offered at T1/3. Those who did get on will have their bus stop over at T2 for 10-15 min depending on when the next trip begins. The problem of inadequate signage lies in any person but the operator itself, probably CAAS. Any gesture by GA or SBST to inform pax can only be considered an initiative, where its lack thereof was also observed when SBST operated 36. The svc info clearly said operating from T2, and outbound directiom showed that after T2 the bus is not turning back at any terminal.
The reason why buses were all off svc was prob a practice of GA to turn its buses' EDS this way when it enters the terminals, to avoid confusion for commuters (people thinking this bus is city bound, when actl it will end svc at T2). The fact that it caused a confusion for these passengers could only be attributed to SBST misguiding pax that you could board at T1/3, by still turning on the 36 EDS. In other words, it is SBST's past practices that contributed to this problem. I feel GA is being the scapegoat here.
so it still does not explain why there is queueing berth for sv36 at T1/T3? since it is for alighting only?
and it still does not explain why there are sv36 (GA) buses picking up paxes at T3/T1
SBST issue a poster when T3 open, clearly mention that sv36 will proceed to T1/T2 before carring to the city...
if GA want to change the practise, it is fine..but they need to put up posters to inform the paxes, so that the paxes can take other bus services to T2 to take sv36... if i remember correctly, the destination at the bus stop at T1/T3 for sv36 show Tomsonlin Road..
Ah,No wonder i see some 36 buses with off service EDS upon enter T3..They got longer rest time at T2(With no jumping bus).Eventually bus behind is the one who will cont to town.Those pax rushing for time can alight at T2 to xfer to another bus.
Originally posted by lemon1974:so it still does not explain why there is queueing berth for sv36 at T1/T3? since it is for alighting only?
and it still does not explain why there are sv36 (GA) buses picking up paxes at T3/T1
SBST issue a poster when T3 open, clearly mention that sv36 will proceed to T1/T2 before carring to the city...
if GA want to change the practise, it is fine..but they need to put up posters to inform the paxes, so that the paxes can take other bus services to T2 to take sv36... if i remember correctly, the destination at the bus stop at T1/T3 for sv36 show Tomsonlin Road..
Yeah... Both T3/T1 shows Tomlinson Road.. I agree with the arguement of lemon1974.