Bus Contracting Model (part 2)
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr TIB868X, it is not free. Nothing is free in this world. Go Ahead outsourced it to TT for go ahead enployees buses due perhaps to lack of drivers. Cheers. Thanks.
source of GA outsourcing it?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Agreed..Furthermore whatever schedule you proposed still have to go through LTA,Not suka2 go here and there.Pasir Ris/CV/CGA is 80% former SBST BCs and management leh,Not some kucing kurap doing the job.
Since it is 80% former SBST BC, there should not be much problem at all. Schedule Shoukd have been done up long ago. But ppl are complaining that 2 buses depart almost together. So what is the time keeper doing? So LTA approve GA to schedule buses to depart together n allow 30 mins frequency as well?
Further heard that one BC pick up sv358 pax n 5 mins later , ask everyone to alight because he is suppose to drive sv17 not 358.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Since it is 80% former SBST BC, there should not be much problem at all. Schedule Shoukd have been done up long ago. But ppl are complaining that 2 buses depart almost together. So what is the time keeper doing? So LTA approve GA to schedule buses to depart together n allow 30 mins frequency as well?
Further heard that one BC pick up sv358 pax n 5 mins later , ask everyone to alight because he is suppose to drive sv17 not 358.
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
source of GA outsourcing it?
Landtransportguru
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Since it is 80% former SBST BC, there should not be much problem at all. Schedule Shoukd have been done up long ago. But ppl are complaining that 2 buses depart almost together. So what is the time keeper doing? So LTA approve GA to schedule buses to depart together n allow 30 mins frequency as well?
Further heard that one BC pick up sv358 pax n 5 mins later , ask everyone to alight because he is suppose to drive sv17 not 358.
LOL.. that is really funny... of course not for those on the bus.
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
Since it is 80% former SBST BC, there should not be much problem at all. Schedule Shoukd have been done up long ago. But ppl are complaining that 2 buses depart almost together. So what is the time keeper doing? So LTA approve GA to schedule buses to depart together n allow 30 mins frequency as well?
Further heard that one BC pick up sv358 pax n 5 mins later , ask everyone to alight because he is suppose to drive sv17 not 358.
For Punggol side its all one service per BC although jumping bus still exist in small number,PSR side not too sure because I haven't do any PSR svc yet
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
LOL.. that is really funny... of course not for those on the bus.
BC should look into the timecard.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr lemon1974, LTA has already made clear 17A start with Go Ahead long time back. 17A first stop will be its current 2nd stop. No more going inside BNDEP. Cheers. Thanks.
now 17A only operate one-directional (from Bedok interchange to Bedok North Ave 4), the return trip, it will operate as sv17 (downroute trip)..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
For Punggol side its all one service per BC although jumping bus still exist in small number,PSR side not too sure because I haven't do any PSR svc yet
Hi mr carbikebus, schedule change already? Last time you say 19 sep officially start to change to one service per BC for punggol? Cheers. Thanks.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr carbikebus, schedule change already? Last time you say 19 sep officially start to change to one service per BC for Punggol. Cheers. Thanks.
Yes for Punggol,1 service per BC but jump bus still exist which is sucks to be honest.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Yes for Punggol,1 service per BC but jump bus still exist which is sucks to be honest.
Hi mr carbikebus, noted and thank you.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr carbikebus, noted and thank you.
Seriously if no major improvement by end month,I hope either SMRT or TT take over operation better.I am quite frustated too as much as you do.
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Can anyone confirm if svc 17/17A terminate at Bedok Int?AFAIK Bedok Int allocate 2 lots for S17/17A.Second separate last row facing the entrance and alighting berth.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Can anyone confirm if svc 17/17A terminate at Bedok Int?AFAIK Bedok Int allocate 2 lots for S17/17A.Second separate last row facing the entrance and alighting berth.
Hi mr carbikebus, see mr lemon1974 explanation at 10.15am message above. Cheers. Thanks.
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i personally feel this BCM is utter crapped. buses are travelling at a snail pace now in order to maintain good spacing
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was at Lavender Mrt Mcdonalds earlier (around 2pm) for lunch.. so was checking the bus timing.. notice that sv2 at the bus stop (near ICA,toward chinatown) is 1min/NA .
so decide to check out whether there are buses that arrive which is not reflected in the system..
and in actual fact, no sv2 buses arrive within 43 mins... the next 2 buses (DD) arrive at around 253 pm (bunched), after around 44 mins since the earlier Sv2 bus leave the bus stop... in between, there is one off service GA DD which pass by the bus stop.. not sure it is starting any downroute or not.
so where is the so call downroute bus that GA which suppose to deploy to help to even out the frequency? 44 mins between 2 buses is NOT ACCEPTABLE....
and during the same period, sv12 came in frequency of 10 min(1st/2nd bus), 3 mins (2nd/3rd) and the next two buses are 26mins/33mins away.... what to say?
in the direction toward Changi, 4 sv2 DD passby (of which 2 of them arrive within 1 min of each other), 3 Sv12 DDs also passby (frequency is ok at around 10-15 mins interval)..
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Aiya u all so zai go plan the schedule or drive bus la.. U think so easy meh?? Complain complain.. Not happy can take taxi man
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Originally posted by sbst191:
Aiya u all so zai go plan the schedule or drive bus la.. U think so easy meh?? Complain complain.. Not happy can take taxi man
no one say it is easy...but GA listed out its plan/proposal and that why LTA awarded the contract to them.. so if GA cant fulfil/cant schedule buses to depart regularly and cant maintain the frequency, then what for have BCM and what for award the contract to GA?
Not everyone like you is SO RICH to take taxi or drive....
and do u think it is reasonable for someone to wait 40 mins for a bus? (granted that there are alternative, but not many would want to transfer buses).
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
was at Lavender Mrt Mcdonalds earlier (around 2pm) for lunch.. so was checking the bus timing.. notice that sv2 at the bus stop (near ICA,toward chinatown) is 1min/NA .
so decide to check out whether there are buses that arrive which is not reflected in the system..
and in actual fact, no sv2 buses arrive within 43 mins... the next 2 buses (DD) arrive at around 253 pm (bunched), after around 44 mins since the earlier Sv2 bus leave the bus stop... in between, there is one off service GA DD which pass by the bus stop.. not sure it is starting any downroute or not.
so where is the so call downroute bus that GA which suppose to deploy to help to even out the frequency? 44 mins between 2 buses is NOT ACCEPTABLE....
and during the same period, sv12 came in frequency of 10 min(1st/2nd bus), 3 mins (2nd/3rd) and the next two buses are 26mins/33mins away.... what to say?
in the direction toward Changi, 4 sv2 DD passby (of which 2 of them arrive within 1 min of each other), 3 Sv12 DDs also passby (frequency is ok at around 10-15 mins interval)..
Hi mr lemon1974, I suggest you don't check the apps or actual situation too often. Because you will vomit blood later. I do that for some services and I find some long headway occasionally. I just treat as 1-off. Probing too much will lead you to discover other items. Cheers. Thanks.
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Punggol:Three S34 within 14 mins @ T2 also pax not happy,Why so many buses at short time.
S43:Within 15 mins apart and 43M in between also pax not happy @ YCK Rd towards Sgoon.
S62:3 buses bunchings at Sims Ave kena scold by pax.
Pasir Ris:S6 i think BC sleeping,One moment its 12 mins per bus during off peak,Another min 17 mins per bus,Then 10 mins then 18 mins.They still practice Jumping to other bus after mealbreak.Bus either kena hijacked by other BCs or late!
Today 359 very frequent at 7 mins per bus during AM peak,358 average 7-14 mins!
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Punggol:Three S34 within 14 mins @ T2 also pax not happy,Why so many buses at short time.
S43:Within 15 mins apart and 43M in between also pax not happy @ YCK Rd towards Sgoon.
S62:3 buses bunchings at Sims Ave kena scold by pax.
Pasir Ris:S6 i think BC sleeping,One moment its 12 mins per bus during off peak,Another min 17 mins per bus,Then 10 mins then 18 mins.They still practice Jumping to other bus after mealbreak.Bus either kena hijacked by other BCs or late!
Today 359 very frequent at 7 mins per bus during AM peak,358 average 7-14 mins!
Hi mr carbikebus, you just need to check the app for 34 and 43 more often and you realize one thing. People are not complaining about 3 buses within 14 min. People are much more concerned about the next bus after these buses go off. Just for now, around marine parade, 2 buses coming 1 after another and the next bus is a cool 30 min away. You see more of such cases everywhere. Even 3 and 83 also have that happening. This is what people are worried about. Those who complained in go ahead Facebook page are those who waited 20-30 mins and more. Yes the Facebook page is also one of the correct place to feedback for Go ahead Singapore. They spell that inside their banner in pasir ris interchange. I also asked the office guy before. Cheers. Thanks.
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The real problem is:2-3 service per BC still exists and bus is determine by run/block no not license plate anymore,ie S3 Block 632,Then S386 Block 651 then S118 Block 528..Any Tom Dick or Harry can kapo your bus while you're having your Mealbreak.Imho just follow what SBST and SMRT is doing,Reach Int or Ter tap your card.Now so many Sotong play punk,Departing 1300 but 1257 pick up pax already especially those PRCs.3 mins also play a part.
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SMRT very messy this few weeks following GA and TT
One bus do few svcs in a day.. those new buses (A95 and lets see the new A22) all no perm svc