Originally posted by SMB128B:I have a qn...
When the concept buses have entered svc, what will happen to the current SG plate buses? Export overseas? Refurbishment with installation of would-be basic amenities like PIS, headrests, sliding plug doors?
Especially interested in the SBST bunch... Imagine 10 years down after GCM and we still see design that belongs to the 2000s... Which is what SBST buses are now ugh
They will continue to run until lifespan expiry. Barring any mechanical issues, why would you want to withdraw perfectly usable buses?
Originally posted by SBS351M:They will continue to run until lifespan expiry. Barring any mechanical issues, why would you want to withdraw perfectly usable buses?
If thats the case they will definitely get an upgrade... Disappointing how no infra was reserved for installation of PIS, good luck to LTA on the installation
Besides withdrawal of buses could also happen when they are considered not suitable for bus ops in SG. This happened to the SBST bendies. Though I have to agree it's really hard selling off so many buses at once...
Originally posted by SMB128B:If thats the case they will definitely get an upgrade... Disappointing how no infra was reserved for installation of PIS, good luck to LTA on the installation
Besides withdrawal of buses could also happen when they are considered not suitable for bus ops in SG. This happened to the SBST bendies. Though I have to agree it's really hard selling off so many buses at once...
K230UBs (Batch 1 Euro IV / some Batch 2 Euro IV especially JB-regged) will be scrapped.
K230UBs (Batch 1 Euro V / Batch 2 Euro V) will be sold and auctioned in Carousell (http://www.carousell.com).
I think the Citaros can start packing up and leave should withdrawal of buses happening.
Oh really? I think you should start packing up as well because I am going to buy one of those KUBs, drive you to Phuket and throw you out into the sea
Originally posted by SMB128B:I have a qn...
When the concept buses have entered svc, what will happen to the current SG plate buses? Export overseas? Refurbishment with installation of would-be basic amenities like PIS, headrests, sliding plug doors?
Especially interested in the SBST bunch... Imagine 10 years down after GCM and we still see design that belongs to the 2000s... Which is what SBST buses are now ugh
Look at London and the NBfL lor...
Its quite similar scenario, no? Probably will just phase in the new buses bit by bit and run the old ones alongside.
Why does 990 not terminate in Jurong East Interchange?
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:True... but then BUDEP should just operate the B9TLs. No need to give the E500s to Bulim. This way those can be saved for SMRT services.
106/189 can operate with B9TLs.
Also temporarily, they can have some parking in Loyang Depot - why not when LTA is managing the show and what LTA needs to consider is people hassle with all the A22s spammed on high loading services.
Waste of manpower as well. Even if there is a major revamp of SMRT services, I doubt there will be retrenchment of BCs.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Why does 990 not terminate in Jurong East Interchange?
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Is there still any TIBS livery buses in 2006?Or all already repainted.
Q: Is "carbikebus" equals to "Norman Abdullah"?
Personally, I feel that the comment about speedometer is not necessary. The speed limit is a safety measure which we cannot neglect.
Originally posted by gekpohboy:Q: Is "carbikebus" equals to "Norman Abdullah"?
Personally, I feel that the comment about speedometer is not necessary. The restrictions on velocity are created to ensure safety. This is not something we can afford to close one eye.
Firstly, nobody understands your question, and I'm guessing it's irrelevant or even discriminatory, so keep it to yourself yea?
Secondly, speedometers in SG are ridiculously set at 60kmh, too slow for buses to operate, especially those plying expy. This not only slows down travel time, but also harms the bus itself and causes inconvenience to other road users (minor extent). Rising it to 70kmh would have been more reasonable. Everyone knows they are for safety but is increasing it by 10kmh gonna suddenly result in road disasters? Maybe you would think so, haha
Originally posted by Singtel Sticker:Is there still any TIBS livery buses in 2006?Or all already repainted.
I remember still seeing a few...
Originally posted by gekpohboy:Q: Is "carbikebus" equals to "Norman Abdullah"?
Personally, I feel that the comment about speedometer is not necessary. The restrictions on velocity are created to ensure safety. This is not something we can afford to close one eye.
Do u understand bus fan taking videos of speeding buses over 60 and post at youtube can cause the BC to get termination?You either are too smart or even blur sotong to know that..
Originally posted by SMB128B:Firstly, nobody understands your question, and I'm guessing it's irrelevant or even discriminatory, so keep it to yourself yea?
Secondly, speedometers in SG are ridiculously set at 60kmh, too slow for buses to operate, especially those plying expy. This not only slows down travel time, but also harms the bus itself and causes inconvenience to other road users (minor extent). Rising it to 70kmh would have been more reasonable. Everyone knows they are for safety but is increasing it by 10kmh gonna suddenly result in road disasters? Maybe you would think so, haha
Second that,Or at least between 62-65kmh is enough...Am i asking too much?
buses should be at 70 km/h along expressway. currently it is at 60km/h, too slow.
Originally posted by SMB145B:buses should be at 70 km/h along expressway. currently it is at 60km/h, too slow.
If you want fast, then buy a cheap air ticket and fly to Hong Kong or Australia.
Originally posted by sgbuses:If you want fast, then buy a cheap air ticket and fly to Hong Kong or Australia.
to think they copy the AU model wholesale ...
Originally posted by sgbuses:If you want fast, then buy a cheap air ticket and fly to Hong Kong or Australia.
Say I want to get from MBS to Tampines on 518. A small speed boost would help get me there faster wouldnt it.
How does your solution help in this case? If you think that was a pretty cool response it isnt. Totally uncalled for.
Thats why you should learn to be more patient. When there is a train disruption, all other vehicles will be full. Not like you can control the traffic right?
Anyway, 60km/h is a good speed limit since buses are heavier than cars due to larger load of passengers and heavier engine. Some more it is harder to brake when a bus in front suddenly stops, which might be why SMB1301K kena crashed the other time
Originally posted by SMB1368T:Thats why you should learn to be more patient. When there is a train disruption, all other vehicles will be full. Not like you can control the traffic right?
Anyway, 60km/h is a good speed limit since buses are heavier than cars due to larger load of passengers and heavier engine. Some more it is harder to brake when a bus in front suddenly stops, which might be why SMB1301K kena crashed the other time
The thing is, show how does 70kmh or at worst, 65kmh a sudden threat to traffic safety?
We are not turning buses into shinkansens. We are merely making it faster for the good of passengers, drivers + PTOs (reach destination sooner), and other road users (too slow a vehicle can also be a danger, as much as those too fast).
Originally posted by SMB128B:Say I want to get from MBS to Tampines on 518. A small speed boost would help get me there faster wouldnt it.
How does your solution help in this case? If you think that was a pretty cool response it isnt. Totally uncalled for.
I would love bus 506 to go faster as much as you do. But do you know what is the process of getting the speed limit raised? Clue: it is not going to the LTA.
If you have given this a little thought, you would know that it is almost impossible. With GCM/BCM, the average speed of buses is going down further.
I am offering a viable alternative for those who wants that speed rush. Rather than bus lobbyists trying to have the driver push for 80km/h in Singapore and risk safety and legal consequences, why not hop on an Australian bus which is capable of doing that legally for up to 100km/h?
Originally posted by SMB128B:The thing is, show how does 70kmh or at worst, 65kmh a sudden threat to traffic safety?
We are not turning buses into shinkansens. We are merely making it faster for the good of passengers, drivers + PTOs (reach destination sooner), and other road users (too slow a vehicle can also be a danger, as much as those too fast).
Edit: video watched. Okay sure, I choose to buy your logic, even though I find the experiment in the video pretty unrealistic (in terms of the braking and the 30kmh thing), which is understandable due to it being advocating for its cause.
Nevertheless, I can now see why increasing limit may seem a problem for people: most of our buses run on roads littered with junctions, not expy. Hence higher likelihood of hitting people and stuff. And I will not disagree.
But this is another problem isnt it. If we STILL insists on our buses plying so many damn stops and passing through every busy road, not only are our bus routes getting winding, buses are also not travelling fast, even pulling down those ALREADY express with them! So if the hub-and-spoke model is still gonna be stubbornly used, our buses are just gonna stop more and travel slower. In this case LTA has already failed in its cause: to get more car owners to ride the PT.
Originally posted by SMB128B:Still no proof of how 60 to 70kmh will suddenly increase chances of crashes by a lot. If other similar cities could have a higher limit yet not seeing so many accidents as u all have tried to paint out I dont see why SG cant. In short, npnt.
Did you even watch the video?