Originally posted by carbikebus:In case you forget, 950 is already WAB eons ago.
Oh ya hor. So, that's like the only WAB cross-boarder bus service at the moment. Not bad.... no wonder so few buses on 950... cuz only got MAN A22, and they don't wanna use the Mercedes Citaro bus yet. But at least this allows wheelchair-bound people the opportunity to take public bus go Johor Bahru jalan jalan. :)
Originally posted by gekpohboy:Oh ya hor. So, that's like the only WAB cross-boarder bus service at the moment. Not bad.... no wonder so few buses on 950... cuz only got MAN A22, and they don't wanna use the Mercedes bus yet. But at least this allows wheelchair-bound people the opportunity to take public bus go Johor Bahru. :)
Actually Wldep can use OC500LE to supplement the A22..They has the adblue tank as well.They got this fetish for A22s thats all..
Why is SBS8552Y - SBS8561X all perm 100 but SBS8559D is not?
It is like a whole column of HGDEP 100 on SgWiki, with SBS8559D being the odd one out.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Does SBST/SMRT still follow jump bus concept? What was the disadvantage of jump bus that they are not in favor of it?
Reliability concerns, jumpbus looks better on paper, ie in an ideal situation where there isn't any events on the road that will delay the buses. However, given that there are so many vehicles and traffic lights on the road, and potential incidents and breakdowns (whether of the bus itself or other vehicles), plus the fact that population is ageing and the fact that wheelchair users can now take the bus, which adds more than 1 min for each boarding/alighting), buses are now more likely to be delayed than before. With this, it is going to be problematic operational wise as it requires the buses to be back at the interchange before the next departure, even though the drivers taking over are ready to go.
I'm not sure if this info is outdated but I think Svc950's WAB status is for SG only as of now as wheelchairs are not allowed beyond woodlands checkpoint or sth (which may be a possible reason why 160 and 170 are NWAB)
Source: Public Transport Wordpress Svc 950 article (now known as Land Transport Guru)
Originally posted by SBS351M:Reliability concerns, jumpbus looks better on paper, ie in an ideal situation where there isn't any events on the road that will delay the buses. However, given that there are so many vehicles and traffic lights on the road, and potential incidents and breakdowns (whether of the bus itself or other vehicles), plus the fact that population is ageing and the fact that wheelchair users can now take the bus, which adds more than 1 min for each boarding/alighting), buses are now more likely to be delayed than before. With this, it is going to be problematic operational wise as it requires the buses to be back at the interchange before the next departure, even though the drivers taking over are ready to go.
are you saying that if there is no jump bus in certain service , the buses will depart on time? bus services are all affected by delay... so if there is no jump bus, the bus arrive at the interchange and have to depart immediately by the same driver....no rest at all..
but at least for jump bus service, the BC can take a short break.. and there are alway flexibility of using buses from other service in the interchange/terminal.. one example is that buses from YCK terminal alway appear on other YCK terminal service
Originally posted by SBS8002T:I'm not sure if this info is outdated but I think Svc950's WAB status is for SG only as of now as wheelchairs are not allowed beyond woodlands checkpoint or sth (which may be a possible reason why 160 and 170 are NWAB)
Source: Public Transport Wordpress Svc 950 article (now known as Land Transport Guru)
PIWs are not allowed into Johor Bahru.
160 and 170 can be WAB
Woodlands Checkpoint and the Sultan Iskandar Checkpoint are equiped with lift and barrier free access. However, PIWs are told to alight at Woodlands Centre Road and not allowed on 950 at the Woodlands Checkpoint.
Originally posted by lemon1974:are you saying that if there is no jump bus in certain service , the buses will depart on time? bus services are all affected by delay... so if there is no jump bus, the bus arrive at the interchange and have to depart immediately by the same driver....no rest at all..
but at least for jump bus service, the BC can take a short break.. and there are alway flexibility of using buses from other service in the interchange/terminal.. one example is that buses from YCK terminal alway appear on other YCK terminal service
No, I'm not saying that when there is no jump bus, buses will definitely depart on time. What I am saying is, in a situation where there is adverse traffic conditions causing delays, jump bus is subjected to more issues. You will have less resources to work with, and passengers will face longer delays than not having jumpbus. In a non jumpbus situation, the drivers will always have a bus to drive for sure, which means the interchange staff can exercise more flexbility in deploying the bus by adjusting the schedules to deal with any delays.
In a jumpbus situation, you may have the driver, but if the bus isn't there, there is basically nothing much you can do, except for using buses (and drivers) from other services to cover for missing trips, but this is just trying to cover a hole by digging another hole, there will be impacts on the other services that the resources are coming from. The fact that QOS standards have been made more stringent and the introduction of BSRF means that the disadvantages of jumpbus are amplified, it is now harder to grab any other bus at the terminals while trying to meet QOS/BSRF standards for the services you are grabiing the buses from.
Jumpbus therefore creates more complexity to operations staff, who already have an heavy workload. This is why it is not as prevalent as before.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Can other ppl besides BCs eat inside NTWU canteen?
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Originally posted by lemon1974:are you saying that if there is no jump bus in certain service , the buses will depart on time? bus services are all affected by delay... so if there is no jump bus, the bus arrive at the interchange and have to depart immediately by the same driver....no rest at all..
but at least for jump bus service, the BC can take a short break.. and there are alway flexibility of using buses from other service in the interchange/terminal.. one example is that buses from YCK terminal alway appear on other YCK terminal service
One major application of jumpbus is when the terminal has insufficient parking space for buses.
If you have enough parking bays to go around, then there is really no need for jumpbus.
Originally posted by sgbuses:One major application of jumpbus is when the terminal has insufficient parking space for buses.
If you have enough parking bays to go around, then there is really no need for jumpbus.
Yes that's exactly why I asked about jump bus. Looking at how interchanges are getting stuffed with new services without expansion in parking bays, I think jump bus may actually work better (eg: CCK).
Have the BC ready... and instead of 4 sv 190 parking at CCK, you can make it 3 sv 190. Likewise for other services like 300/302/983 with fast turnover at interchange.
Originally posted by SBS351M:No, I'm not saying that when there is no jump bus, buses will definitely depart on time. What I am saying is, in a situation where there is adverse traffic conditions causing delays, jump bus is subjected to more issues. You will have less resources to work with, and passengers will face longer delays than not having jumpbus. In a non jumpbus situation, the drivers will always have a bus to drive for sure, which means the interchange staff can exercise more flexbility in deploying the bus by adjusting the schedules to deal with any delays.
In a jumpbus situation, you may have the driver, but if the bus isn't there, there is basically nothing much you can do, except for using buses (and drivers) from other services to cover for missing trips, but this is just trying to cover a hole by digging another hole, there will be impacts on the other services that the resources are coming from. The fact that QOS standards have been made more stringent and the introduction of BSRF means that the disadvantages of jumpbus are amplified, it is now harder to grab any other bus at the terminals while trying to meet QOS/BSRF standards for the services you are grabiing the buses from.
Jumpbus therefore creates more complexity to operations staff, who already have an heavy workload. This is why it is not as prevalent as before.
The operators should park 1 SD and 1 DD in the interchange, but there is not enough space.
From 29 May 2016, a universal bus history page and bus deployment page will be on SGWiki to replace operators' bus history page, operators' bus deployment and so on.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Can other ppl besides BCs eat inside NTWU canteen?
In fact, I did not see a single BC inside Serangoon NTWU canteen at about 12 noon.
I thought BC lunch breaks have already started at 12 noon?
Originally posted by SBS3004X:In fact, I did not see a single BC inside Serangoon NTWU canteen at about 12 noon.
I thought BC lunch breaks have already started at 12 noon?
Their (lunch) mealbreaks usually start from 9a.m. plus to 11a.m... Don't think there would be a mealbreak at 12 noon, unless rare exception.
GL1 BC will eat where for mealbreak? Kallang MRT? Marina Centre also how? Will they go to Marina Sq to eat?
UEC also
Originally posted by SBS3004X:In fact, I did not see a single BC inside Serangoon NTWU canteen at about 12 noon.
I thought BC lunch breaks have already started at 12 noon?
Mealbreaks for Am shift usually from 0905-1115,Pm shift from 1720-1825.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:GL1 BC will eat where for mealbreak? Kallang MRT? Marina Centre also how? Will they go to Marina Sq to eat?
UEC also
Lor 1 Geylang BCs eat opposite the terminal where there is food shops.Marina Centre BCs(195) usually there is a timekeeper from Harbourfront group will tapao for them.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Lor 1 Geylang BCs eat opposite the terminal where there is food shops.Marina Centre BCs(195) usually there is a timekeeper from Harbourfront group will tapao for them.
Shenton Way got canteen? I know NBR have. Is there any mealbreak for 36 at CGA?
Originally posted by carbikebus:Mealbreaks for Am shift usually from 0905-1115,Pm shift from 1720-1825.
Saw one duty on 960. Mealbreak from 1950-2020h.
Originally posted by TIB 585L:Saw one duty on 960. Mealbreak from 1950-2020h.
Again there is exceptional..Some even have mealbreaks from 1850-1915
Originally posted by TIB 585L:Shenton Way got canteen? I know NBR have. Is there any mealbreak for 36 at CGA?
Shenton Way aint too sure..but svc 36 BCs they went up the T2 canteen and that explain why their mealbreaks is between 38-51 mins..They walked up and down already takes 15 mins
TT and GA will try to increase mealbreaks from 30mins-50mins,Teabreak from 17-25 mins and break from 13-22 mins
Originally posted by 23ispolo:Their (lunch) mealbreaks usually start from 9a.m. plus to 11a.m... Don't think there would be a mealbreak at 12 noon, unless rare exception.
No wonder SBS3003Z and SBS3004X on 43 had split-shift mealbreaks last time before the 21/12/15 E-TT change.