Loading level on buses (Part 2)
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Originally posted by SBS6853S:
Daily situation for years yet nothing has been done by LTA and SBST. 103 is a BSEP service some more. Always packed from West Camp to YCK Rd where ppl cant board
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr sbs6750E, that time before sbs 85 got DDs, they announce that sengkang west MP Dr Lam lobbied hard for it. At that time, there was only sbs 85 along that sector and it was single deck some more. The single deck sbs 85 was very crowded during peak hours, being the only service. So DDs for sbs 85 was given. The MP continued to lobby for more bus services for his estate and LTA provides for another new service sbs 102 and also opened kupang LRT station for revenue service. Cheers. Thanks.
Let me just say that there is no political intervention for the introduction of Double-Deckers on 85.
Otherwise you would've seen posters all around saying 85 got fleet upgrade, as per usual for PAP people.
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103 really need 4 split shift DDs..The loadings during peak hours is terrible.Off peak single decker can manage well.
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
Let me just say that there is no political intervention for the introduction of Double-Deckers on 85.
Otherwise you would've seen posters all around saying 85 got fleet upgrade, as per usual for PAP people.
Hi mr sbs2656X, noted for your comments. However the guy Facebook page at that time did mention request for DDs. Cheers. Thanks.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
103 really need 4 split shift DDs..The loadings during peak hours is terrible.Off peak single decker can manage well.
103 had 3 DDs today. 2 departed back to back at 6.20pm and 6.28pm.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
103 had 3 DDs today. 2 departed back to back at 6.20pm and 6.28pm.
only stop gap measures to replace broken down buses
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
103 had 3 DDs today. 2 departed back to back at 6.20pm and 6.28pm.
Today like got 2 DDs only and its fully utilised.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Today like got 2 DDs only and its fully utilised.
I think 103 already has 2 perm DDs and some days got even 3 DDs operating.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think 103 already has 2 perm DDs and some days got even 3 DDs operating.
theres only 1 which is 3429D which does not help at all
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Originally posted by SBS6853S:
theres only 1 which is 3429D which does not help at all
There is a 37xx as well.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
There is a 37xx as well.
Yes bro,I did spot it as well..They really need 4-5 split DDs to tank the loads.Off peak all single deckers will do.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
There is a 37xx as well.
37xx not perm, like i said, was 3768A, replacing a bus that broke down
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Loading on sv 50 @ 5.20pm from Bishan Interchange
Bishan Interchange -- 15 (0/15)
Bishan St 11 -- 19 (0/4)
Bishan Road -- 28 (0/9), 30 (-1/3), 32 (0/2)
AMK Ave 8 -- 27 (-8/3), 26 (-3/2), 26 (-2/2), 35 (-2/11), 34 (-1/0)
AMK Ave 5 -- 45 (0/11), 50 (-1/6), 59 (-8/17) ITE, 62 (0/3), 65 (0/3), 69 (-1/5), 74 (-1/6), 74 (-2/2)
YCK Road -- 80 (0/6), 84 (0/4), 86 (0/2), 84 (-8/6), 93 (-1/10)
Sengkang West Road -- 95 (0/2)
Sengkang West/East Ave -- 101 (0/6), 94 (-13/6), 75 (-26/7), 76 (-1/2), 73 (-3/0)
Anchorvale Rd -- 70 (-7/4), 69 (-3/2)
Sengkang East Way -- 62 (-11/4), 57 (-8/3), 46 (-19/7) Sengkang MRT. I alighted here!!!
* Heavy loading between AMK Ave 5 all the way to Sengkang East.
* Surprisingly very few people alight along YCK Road
* 50 is popular as an intra-town service in Sengkang, purely based on # people boarding/alighting within Sengkang town
* 50 in opposite direction had heavy loading between AMK Ave 5 and Bishan/AMK and Sengkang MRT/Sengkang West Ave
* Was not able to spot any new bus stops
* Spotted 2 DDs on sv 103 again, both back to back towards Serangoon.
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Observations at Sengkang MRT (Compass Point). One hour observation
* Routes 50, 102, 119, 161 only. Did not count 156, 159, 372 that originate from interchange
18.24 - 119 (6 pax boarded) DD
18.26 - 50 (55 pax boarded) DD
18.28 - 161 (10 pax boarded) DD
18.29 - 102 (42 pax boarded) DD
18.32 - 161 (06 pax boarded) (bus before: 04 min) DD
18.34 - 50 (31 pax boarded) (bus before: 08 min) DD
18.38 - 102 (35 pax boarded) (bus before: 09 min) SD
18.38 - 161 (08 pax boarded) (bus before: 06 min) DD
18.42 - 119 (08 pax boarded) (bus before: 18 min) SD
18.45 - 161 (15 pax boarded) (bus before: 07 min) DD
18.48 - 50 (40 pax boarded) (bus before: 14 min) DD
18.49 - 102 (29 pax boarded) (bus before: 11 min) DD
18.52 - 161 (16 pax boarded) (bus before: 07 min) DD
18.58 - 102 (51 pax boarded) (bus before: 09 min) SD
19.00 - 50 (44 pax boarded) (bus before: 12 min) DD
19.02 - 161 (17 pax boarded) (bus before: 10 min) DD
19.04 - 161 (04 pax boarded) (bus before: 02 min) DD
19.08 - 119 (11 pax boarded) (bus before: 24 min) SD
19.12 - 102 (62 pax boarded) (bus before: 14 min) DD
19.14 - 50 (37 pax boarded) (bus before: 14 min) DD
19.18 - 161 (18 pax boarded) (bus before: 14 min) DD
19.19 - 161 (05 pax boarded) (bus before: 01 min) DD
19.22 - 119 (09 pax boarded) (bus before: 14 min) DD
19.24 - 102 (46 pax boarded) (bus before: 12 min) SD
* 50 average frequency (12-14 min)
* 102 avergae frewuency (09-12 min)
* 119 average frequency (16-20 min)
* 161 average frequency (06-07 min)
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Originally posted by SBS6853S:
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maybe the government should consider having another service link it to sengkang or pungol interchange. instead. a loop service will be good or have 86 loop there instead of going to sengkang or 163 to loop there.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
maybe the government should consider having another service link it to sengkang or pungol interchange. instead. a loop service will be good or have 86 loop there instead of going to sengkang or 163 to loop there.
would be useless becos the crowd is mainly alighting at yio chu kang rd.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Loading on sv 50 @ 5.20pm from Bishan Interchange
Bishan Interchange -- 15 (0/15)
Bishan St 11 -- 19 (0/4)
Bishan Road -- 28 (0/9), 30 (-1/3), 32 (0/2)
AMK Ave 8 -- 27 (-8/3), 26 (-3/2), 26 (-2/2), 35 (-2/11), 34 (-1/0)
AMK Ave 5 -- 45 (0/11), 50 (-1/6), 59 (-8/17) ITE, 62 (0/3), 65 (0/3), 69 (-1/5), 74 (-1/6), 74 (-2/2)
YCK Road -- 80 (0/6), 84 (0/4), 86 (0/2), 84 (-8/6), 93 (-1/10)
Sengkang West Road -- 95 (0/2)
Sengkang West/East Ave -- 101 (0/6), 94 (-13/6), 75 (-26/7), 76 (-1/2), 73 (-3/0)
Anchorvale Rd -- 70 (-7/4), 69 (-3/2)
Sengkang East Way -- 62 (-11/4), 57 (-8/3), 46 (-19/7) Sengkang MRT. I alighted here!!!
* Heavy loading between AMK Ave 5 all the way to Sengkang East.
* Surprisingly very few people alight along YCK Road
* 50 is popular as an intra-town service in Sengkang, purely based on # people boarding/alighting within Sengkang town
* 50 in opposite direction had heavy loading between AMK Ave 5 and Bishan/AMK and Sengkang MRT/Sengkang West Ave
* Was not able to spot any new bus stops
* Spotted 2 DDs on sv 103 again, both back to back towards Serangoon.
the DDs are placed on the wrong timings and are not the highest loading ones
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Originally posted by SBS6853S:
the DDs are placed on the wrong timings and are not the highest loading ones
Agreed..
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Originally posted by SBS6853S:
the DDs are placed on the wrong timings and are not the highest loading ones
What do you mean by that? sv 50 is almost full fleet DD with 14 DDs and only 2 Citaros operating. So how is it a wrong timing? Please clarify both cbb and 6853s.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
What do you mean by that? sv 50 is almost full fleet DD with 14 DDs and only 2 Citaros operating. So how is it a wrong timing? Please clarify both cbb and 6853s.
in terms of 103. not 50. referring to ur statement below
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also, if you spot 103 at the same timings now as u did previously, u wont see DDs anymore...
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Might as well introduce 103M from Serangoon to Seletar and loop back again during peak hours. Works when 103 separated from 103M then those travelling towards Yishun have a seat in the bus. Though might need about 6 DDs for that
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Originally posted by SMB1368T:
Might as well introduce 103M from Serangoon to Seletar and loop back again during peak hours. Works when 103 separated from 103M then those travelling towards Yishun have a seat in the bus. Though might need about 6 DDs for that
Will work though the passengers travelling towards Yishun will be neglected. The bus also gets packed towards Yishun for the 5.35pm trip departing West Camp for Yishun
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Btw has 117 helped to relieve 103 given that it now enters West Camp and enters Yishun? It should not be a problem since the bus service has lots of Wrights
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Originally posted by SMB1368T:
Btw has 117 helped to relieve 103 given that it now enters West Camp and enters Yishun? It should not be a problem since the bus service has lots of Wrights
I boarded Svc 117 last Saturday around 6.35pm.. My bus (SBS 6750 E) had full seating load... When reach Yishun Ave 1, the loads picked up at the bus stop at The Shaugnessy and after Orchid Country Club...
Maybe it is because I took the bus on a Saturday so my observation may not justify the loading...