Bus Observations
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
Woodlands North should have Marsiling within its 'range'.
Also, am I correct to assume that the new Woodlands North Bus Interchange will be integrated with its MRT counterpart?
quoted from URA website...
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An integrated transport hub at the heart of the Woodlands North Coast will house offices, shops and restaurants above a bus interchange and connect underground to the Woodlands North MRT Station and cross-border rail link to Johor
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Originally posted by TIB987K:
Then where to park the Bas Kilang/OS Service 170 buses?
About the start of demolition, I think its end of this year or early 2017.
why care about the bus kilang? OS170 can still park there mah..
if the old woodland centre is not going to demolished, would prefer 911/912/913/903 to start from there... at least free up parking space at Woodland interchange...
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SMB252A without interlock..
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SBS3458U back EDS spoilt already since before the March school holidays!
P.S. Even the BC of SBS3462G knew that SBS3458U was on 43 even though he didn't see the EDS! It might have been on cameo though.
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Some weird deployment between 302 & 307 today.. saw 198Z on 307S101 as usual at around 9.40am+.
Later at around 5pm, SMB128B was on on 307S101 instead. Later happened to see 198Z on 302 while onb 128B. Am unclear of which bus 198Z was replacing though.
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
Some weird deployment between 302 & 307 today.. saw 198Z on 307S101 as usual at around 9.40am+.
Later at around 5pm, SMB128B was on on 307S101 instead. Later happened to see 198Z on 302 while onb 128B. Am unclear of which bus 198Z was replacing though.
quite normal actually...for S shift buses, sometimes AM and PM are different buses..in particular, i realise CCK likes to deploy SMB198Z everywhere on CCK feeders... and today it could be due to a fact that it was doing PM split shift for 302 or replace some bus that broke down? SMB128B was on 307S102 during AM peak...
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SG1746M sideswiped markings on the area above right side front wheel..marking super obvious kind...
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SMB3117M has got this "Bus Log Book" thing..saw it placed at the driver's dashboard while it was on 302 today. Is this related to the 3117M not in good condition thing?
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
SMB3117M has got this "Bus Log Book" thing..saw it placed at the driver's dashboard while it was on 302 today. Is this related to the 3117M not in good condition thing?
No lah... They just follow Army style of like issuing vehicle to different drivers... If you were once a transport operator, you would know...Then the timetable is called the details...
But SMRT is to and fro.. So need to write down mileage lorhx in the log book... When need to go repair, when last accident or when last fuel all in the log book
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
No lah... They just follow Army style of like issuing vehicle to different drivers... If you were once a transport operator, you would know...Then the timetable is called the details...
But SMRT is to and fro.. So need to write down mileage lorhx in the log book... When need to go repair, when last accident or when last fuel all in the log book
Oh, thanks, was my first time seeing this kind of things..
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
SMB3117M has got this "Bus Log Book" thing..saw it placed at the driver's dashboard while it was on 302 today. Is this related to the 3117M not in good condition thing?
All buses will have the logbooks with them...BCs have to clock in the mileage they clocked
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307 buses now back to what was done last time.. bus perm a slot while BC changes to a different bus every week...
307AP01 -- SMB98D
307AP02 -- SMB99B
307AP03 -- SMB124L
307AP04 -- SMB125J
307AP05 -- SMB126G
307AP06 -- SMB127D
307S101 -- SMB198Z
307S102 -- SMB128B307AP90 -- SMB3131X
307AP91 -- SMB3118KThe BSEP slots and 307S101 continue to have fixed BCs.. the rotating only occurs for AP01 - AP06 and S102.
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Originally posted by SMB42P:
307 buses now back to what was done last time.. bus perm a slot while BC changes to a different bus every week...
307AP01 -- SMB98D
307AP02 -- SMB99B
307AP03 -- SMB124L
307AP04 -- SMB125J
307AP05 -- SMB126G
307AP06 -- SMB127D
307S101 -- SMB198Z
307S102 -- SMB128B307AP90 -- SMB3131X
307AP91 -- SMB3118KThe BSEP slots and 307S101 continue to have fixed BCs.. the rotating only occurs for AP01 - AP06 and S102.
Yup, noticed that recently too
And for 198Z I dont see it running on 307 le
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
Yup, noticed that recently too
And for 198Z I dont see it running on 307 le
SMB198Z is always seen replacing other buses on other CCK services (those overnight parking there) while 307S101 BC always sends the affected buses back to depot, usually for repairs (AM peak) or return the bus back to CCK INT (PM peak)
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Originally posted by SMB42P:
SMB198Z is always seen replacing other buses on other CCK services (those overnight parking there) while 307S101 BC always sends the affected buses back to depot, usually for repairs (AM peak) or return the bus back to CCK INT (PM peak)
Havent been seeing 198Z after that day it went to 302 for PM, today 1465X on S101
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
Havent been seeing 198Z after that day it went to 302 for PM, today 1465X on S101
Not alot of days actually..that was last Thurs (14/4), Friday S101 did not run, then Saturday and Sunday SMB198Z dun usually appear on 307 as well (Sunday was on 975), so today is kinda 1st day missing haha! see tomorrow S101 is what bus
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Messy at TWBI... Svc 902 queue is until Svc 169 boarding berth... Should have not put this service together with 161 & 168.
Even Svc 169 queue also extended out already... These two buses need to have a boost on certain things:
1) Frequency
2) Berth Crowd Control
3) Fleet adjustment/upgradeEarlier, Svc 169 that I manage to see was a DD & Bendy (TIB 1107 C). SMB 3547 E was laying-over at parking.
I believe Svc 902 should be transferred elsewhere or one service from TWBI should be out to terminate else where...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
Messy at TWBI... Svc 902 queue is until Svc 169 boarding berth... Should have not put this service together with 161 & 168.
Even Svc 169 queue also extended out already... These two buses need to have a boost on certain things:
1) Frequency
2) Berth Crowd Control
3) Fleet adjustment/upgradeEarlier, Svc 169 that I manage to see was a DD & Bendy (TIB 1107 C). SMB 3547 E was laying-over at parking.
I believe Svc 902 should be transferred elsewhere or one service from TWBI should be out to terminate else where...
169 has been receiving alot of complaints recently..
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
169 has been receiving alot of complaints recently..
I did also feedback about the service...
Quite bad lah the service... I did suggest at the Bus Interchange, Terminal, Depot topic to give back Svc 169 to SBS Transit to operate...
I think former SBS services (e.g: 169, 171, 172, 176, 187, 190) should have gone back to SBS Transit... Maybe in my opinion more better managed in terms of resources (Buses) and manpower (drivers)
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
I did also feedback about the service...
Quite bad lah the service... I did suggest at the Bus Interchange, Terminal, Depot topic to give back Svc 169 to SBS Transit to operate...
I think former SBS services (e.g: 169, 171, 172, 176, 187, 190) should have gone back to SBS Transit... Maybe in my opinion more better managed in terms of resources (Buses) and manpower (drivers)
SMRTB svc that ought to give back to SBST for the time being
61 & 67:BNDEP/BBDEP
167 & 171:AMDEP/ARBP
169:AMDEP
172 & 180:SLBP
75,176,184,188 & 190:BBDEP
178 & 187:SLBP/BBDEP
Choa Chu Kang left:925,927,983,985 and feeders/Intratown,300,301,302 & 307 can renumbered as 930,931,932 & 937.
Bt Panjang left:920,922,970,972,975 & 979.BPS1 can renumbered as 928 looping at CCK.
Woodlands left:856,858,900,901,902,903,904,911,912,913,925,926,950,960,961,962
963,964,965,966 & 969.
Sembawang left with:859,882,980 & 981,Still can introduce 2 more new service or extend 852 to here.
Yishun all except 171.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
SMRTB svc that ought to give back to SBST for the time being
61 & 67:BNDEP/BBDEP
167 & 171:AMDEP/ARBP
169:AMDEP
172 & 180:SLBP
75,176,184,188 & 190:BBDEP
178 & 187:SLBP/BBDEP
Choa Chu Kang left:925,927,983,985 and feeders/Intratown,300,301,302 & 307 can renumbered as 930,931,932 & 937.
Bt Panjang left:920,922,970,972,975 & 979.BPS1 can renumbered as 928 looping at CCK.
Woodlands left:856,858,900,901,902,903,904,911,912,913,925,926,950,960,961,962
963,964,965,966 & 969.
Sembawang left with:859,882,980 & 981,Still can introduce 2 more new service or extend 852 to here.
Yishun all except 171.
I agree with these few
61: BBDEP & HGDEP
67: BBDEP & BNDEP169: Full AMDEP
171: Full AMDEP
172: Full SLBP
75, 176, 184, 188 & 190: BBDEP
187: BBDEP
I would leave 167, 178 & 180 with SMRT. These three buses maybe in my opinion still managable.. Just need some fleet adjustment.
The services that I foresee is cashcow services are as following:
Svcs 67, 169, 171, 172, 184, 187, 188, 190
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
SMRTB svc that ought to give back to SBST for the time being
61 & 67:BNDEP/BBDEP
167 & 171:AMDEP/ARBP
169:AMDEP
172 & 180:SLBP
75,176,184,188 & 190:BBDEP
178 & 187:SLBP/BBDEP
Choa Chu Kang left:925,927,983,985 and feeders/Intratown,300,301,302 & 307 can renumbered as 930,931,932 & 937.
Bt Panjang left:920,922,970,972,975 & 979.BPS1 can renumbered as 928 looping at CCK.
Woodlands left:856,858,900,901,902,903,904,911,912,913,925,926,950,960,961,962
963,964,965,966 & 969.
Sembawang left with:859,882,980 & 981,Still can introduce 2 more new service or extend 852 to here.
Yishun all except 171.
Don't renumber ba..will cause confusion within some residents
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Well i think its more to depot spacing and wrong plannings.Wldep/Wlbp is doing okay with over 540 buses.Kranji and Ang Mo Kio is the main problem.Imagine if Kranji and Ang Mo Kio got sub bus parks from last time,I feel most of the service already have more DDs.Many of my friends already predicted that SMRT will lose Yishun(Seletar package) and will gain J East/Clementi/Kent Ridge(Ulu Pandan).
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Well i think its more to depot spacing and wrong plannings.Wldep/Wlbp is doing okay with over 540 buses.Kranji and Ang Mo Kio is the main problem.Imagine if Kranji and Ang Mo Kio got sub bus parks from last time,I feel most of the service already have more DDs.Many of my friends already predicted that SMRT will lose Yishun(Seletar package) and will gain J East/Clementi/Kent Ridge(Ulu Pandan).
I agree with your statement...
I also believe that SMRT will lose Yishun... But a bit skeptical about it winning JE/Clementi/Kent Ridge...
I think these three areas need high capacity buses... With SMRT's deployment, I not sure abt them winning...
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Originally posted by SBS 9256 X:
I agree with your statement...
I also believe that SMRT will lose Yishun... But a bit skeptical about it winning JE/Clementi/Kent Ridge...
I think these three areas need high capacity buses... With SMRT's deployment, I not sure abt them winning...
You forgotten that Buses are supplied by LTA.So the excess buses from Yishun and new Citaros/ND323F suppliment them for Ulu Pandan?