LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 4)

• dupdup77

  27 May 16, 17:43

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Skipped st 41/45/31/34 lar..Can always ask feeder to use that route to the nearest MRT or so called 80-120 pax as you claim in Ave 2.28 freq is quite good leh and i hardly see 80-100 pax reaching Ave 2 also.For your info i do time checking for bus service in Eastern and Northeast part of Singapore also leh.

  Hi mr carbikebus, sbs 28 is just like sbs 3. They belong to those types of trunk bus services, doing some inner roads. This is due to the fact that Tampines and pasir ris are big towns and need some trunk services to absorb residents along certain segments of the inner areas/streets. Cheers. Thanks.

• Axiis001

  27 May 16, 19:06

  

• array88

  27 May 16, 19:25

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Skipped st 41/45/31/34 lar..Can always ask feeder to use that route to the nearest MRT or so called 80-120 pax as you claim in Ave 2.28 freq is quite good leh and i hardly see 80-100 pax reaching Ave 2 also.For your info i do time checking for bus service in Eastern and Northeast part of Singapore also leh.

  Thanks for forcing students from all those schools in the inner parts of N3/4 to go all the way back to interchange and transfer from there. And not everyone only takes bus to MRT/interchange...

• gekpohboy

  27 May 16, 22:01

  Bus 46 is not wheelchair accessible. I guess this means it will use buses currently on bus routes going to Bulim depot, which will become "redundant" when TT takes over. So, I am expecting Scania K230UBs on this new service. :)

• gekpohboy

  27 May 16, 22:04

  somehow, the new route 46 looks like the number 1. but why they never use number 1 for this route?

  This could mean that the route may not use Tampines Bus Interchange in future.

• azharjj

  27 May 16, 22:48

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Bus 46 is not wheelchair accessible. I guess this means it will use buses currently on bus routes going to Bulim depot, which will become "redundant" when TT takes over. So, I am expecting Scania K230UBs on this new service. :)

  oh ya hor

  just realised that 46 no WAB logo. means not Non-WAB service

  i wonder why

• SBS7557R

  27 May 16, 23:26

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  Bus 46 is not wheelchair accessible. I guess this means it will use buses currently on bus routes going to Bulim depot, which will become "redundant" when TT takes over. So, I am expecting Scania K230UBs on this new service. :)

  WAB logo not printed on poster =/= not wheelchair-accessible

  979's introduction poster had no WAB logo either, but it was considered a WAB service since introduction.

• gekpohboy

  27 May 16, 23:29

  Originally posted by SBS7557R:

  WAB logo not printed on poster =/= not wheelchair-accessible

  979's introduction poster had no WAB logo either, but it was considered a WAB service since introduction.

  Oh, okay. Thanks for the clarification. :)

• BusAnalayzer

  29 May 16, 18:10

  Originally posted by array88:

  Finally. Both Fengshan and Tampines West have been suffering from terrible inter-town connections and I must say 46 effectively killed many birds with one stone, with connections to DTL and TEL (Sungei Bedok) as well.

  Just that loading in Bedok may not pick up before DTL3.

  Yes and loading between UEC and Bedok North Road will remain poor (but guess its okay.. cannot expect full route to have heavy loading).

  My preference would have been go to UEC via Tanah Merah, and have 45 extended to CBP. In turn, also have 14 diverted via route 45/17 to Bedok Interchange. 

  But guess that would be too many changes which LTA may not want to do after the 76/134 case.

• BusAnalayzer

  29 May 16, 18:12

  Originally posted by shellstation:

  28 should stay the way it is, at least for the Tampines to Bedok part.

  46 is a quite well-planned route. I see a few major high demand segments after DTL3 opens.

  1) Tampines Int > St 83 / Ave 3 (291 fleet cut?)
  2) Tampines West MRT > St 83 / Ave 3 
  3) Bedok Reservoir MRT > Bedok North Blk 85 and beyond

  291 can reduce 2 buses. Too many buses for 291.

  Actually 46 could have looped around Tampines town for eg: Tampines Ave 5 > Tampines Ave 4 > Tampines Ave 7 > Tampines Concourse > Tampines Ave 4 and back.

  This way it would have also connected important amenities such as Century Square mall, the new stadium and hawker center along ave 5 (but bus will not be calling this stop) and Tampines Regional Library. 

• BusAnalayzer

  29 May 16, 18:13

  Originally posted by gekpohboy:

  somehow, the new route 46 looks like the number 1. but why they never use number 1 for this route?

  This could mean that the route may not use Tampines Bus Interchange in future.

  46 high chance to be extended to Tampines North in future.

• Sbeesg

  30 May 16, 11:00

  A pair of new bus stop shelters being constructed at Tampines Concourse (Blk 523D and outside The Tampines Trilliant EC). Shall see which bus service will be amended to serve.

• BusAnalayzer

  30 May 16, 14:52

  Originally posted by Sbeesg:

  A pair of new bus stop shelters being constructed at Tampines Concourse (Blk 523D and outside The Tampines Trilliant EC). Shall see which bus service will be amended to serve.

  This maybe for Tampines Interchange expansion. Some services will be diverted here.

• BusAnalayzer

  30 May 16, 15:20

  Or maybe the bus stop will be where the supposedly new service 68 will loop. 

• Sbs6750E

  30 May 16, 21:27

  I think July can expect new svcs in Sengkang Int. Extension almost complete liao. Have more than 12 parking lots. Interchange extension looks quite huge leh.
• carbikebus

  30 May 16, 21:46

  Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

  I think July can expect new svcs in Sengkang Int. Extension almost complete liao. Have more than 12 parking lots. Interchange extension looks quite huge leh.

  I think its 20 parking lots..

• dupdup77

  30 May 16, 22:02

  Originally posted by Sbs6750E:

  I think July can expect new svcs in Sengkang Int. Extension almost complete liao. Have more than 12 parking lots. Interchange extension looks quite huge leh.

  Hi mr sbs6750E, not that big. Current Sengkang Aircon interchange has 16 parking lots. The extension will have 12 parking lots. So total only 28 lots. Still small. In comparison, Punggol has 38 (current) + 12 (extension) = 50. Cheers. Thanks.

• AJQZC

  30 Jun 16, 16:43

  Any news for BSEP services in Q3?

  Possibilities / rumours so far:

  • 1.  Sembawang -- Canberra short trunk / feeder
  • 2.  Sengkang (West? Anchorvale?) short trunk / feeder
  • 3.  (Other) new services from Sengkang Int / Tampines Int expansion
  • 4.  Splitting of one / some long services (14, 51, 61, 66, 67, 171, 961)
    
  • 5.  DTL2 amendments
  • 6.  68: Pasir Ris -- Tampines North?
    

  Anyone with insider info?

• carbikebus

  30 Jun 16, 17:03

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr sbs6750E, not that big. Current Sengkang Aircon interchange has 16 parking lots. The extension will have 12 parking lots. So total only 28 lots. Still small. In comparison, Punggol has 38 (current) + 12 (extension) = 50. Cheers. Thanks.

  Huh?Sengkang only 16 lots?I thought its 22?The current expansion i think is more than 12 leh

• SBS351M

  30 Jun 16, 17:34

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Huh?Sengkang only 16 lots?I thought its 22?The current expansion i think is more than 12 leh

  Sengkang has all along had 16 lots.

• SBS6853S

  30 Jun 16, 17:54

  Originally posted by AJQZC:

  Any news for BSEP services in Q3?

  Possibilities / rumours so far:

  • 1.  Sembawang -- Canberra short trunk / feeder
  • 2.  Sengkang (West? Anchorvale?) short trunk / feeder
  • 3.  (Other) new services from Sengkang Int / Tampines Int expansion
  • 4.  Splitting of one / some long services (14, 51, 61, 66, 67, 171, 961)
    
  • 5.  DTL2 amendments
  • 6.  68: Pasir Ris -- Tampines North?
    

  Anyone with insider info?

  68 will be introduced when Tamp Ave 11 is completed

• Sbs6750E

  30 Jun 16, 18:04

  I think feeder 373 to Fernvale Link/Rd End via Anchorvale Cres very high chance.
• dupdup77

  30 Jun 16, 19:15

  Originally posted by SBS351M:

  Sengkang has all along had 16 lots.

  Hi mr sbs351M, yes right. Maybe this is why expansion for sengkang interchange starts first instead of Hougang and Punggol. Cheers. Thanks.

• carbikebus

  30 Jun 16, 19:52

  Originally posted by dupdup77:

  Hi mr sbs351M, yes right. Maybe this is why expansion for sengkang interchange starts first instead of Hougang and Punggol. Cheers. Thanks.

  Hougang i think at a later date,Punggul i think by Sept.Tampines might be early Sept too.

• carbikebus

  30 Jun 16, 19:53

  Sengkang so pathetic,Should have make 159 start from Toa Payoh and loop at Sengkang better.