LTA's Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) (Part 4)
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
More A95s are coming so don't worry
The issue is that it's totally hopeless to deploy DD on feeder/intratown/psuedo-feeder services (aka 962, 964, 860, etc)
SMRT is just mindlessly WAB-ing services which they don't even have the proper buses for. SBST has DD successfully on feeder/townlink services because they're deployed on those services for years now. No one wants to go upstairs for a few stops. Less said for the elderly who does frequent feeder services as well.Mixed results for the three svcs
860: don't think so (860 has only one bendy on AP slot, though there S1/S2 bendies, nearly all rigids are taros)
962: so-so
964: okay (bendies are full to the brim)once 856 has Full Fleet DD, 859 can be removed. 882 could see some A22 or E50D/A95.
Right, a while ago, 912 failed WAB (info from SMB315C). 980 and 882 did fail WAB before. 980 had O405s cameos in lieu of shortage of A22s then. 882 had two buses then, just one non-WAB would mean WAB failure.
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Are you saying that 859 can be withdrawned once 856 is full DD? Please dont
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Originally posted by SMB1368T:
Are you saying that 859 can be withdrawned once 856 is full DD? Please dont
well 859A/B will still be there just that it could be renumbered.
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
More A95s are coming so don't worry
The issue is that it's totally hopeless to deploy DD on feeder/intratown/psuedo-feeder services (aka 962, 964, 860, etc)
SMRT is just mindlessly WAB-ing services which they don't even have the proper buses for. SBST has DD successfully on feeder/townlink services because they're deployed on those services for years now. No one wants to go upstairs for a few stops. Less said for the elderly who does frequent feeder services as well.Lets not get into the stupid argument again. If SBST has successfully deployed DDs on bendies/intra-towns, with time people in SMRT area will also get used to.
Lets take example of 983. It is doing beautifully between Ave 5 and CCK Interchange with upper deck 80% full and buses taking 100 pax. Imagine if 983 didn't have DDs, it would need to have a fleet of 16-18 buses instead of 11 buses today.
Let's think more futuristic here, and SMRT is doing the right thing (if they are) by considering DDs on feeders/intra-towns. Needs to start somewhere, otherwise they are going to bleed big time. Just look at what a mess the new WRI is with so many A22s spammed. What a mess is 911/912/913 today.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
Mixed results for the three svcs
860: don't think so (860 has only one bendy on AP slot, though there S1/S2 bendies, nearly all rigids are taros)
962: so-so
964: okay (bendies are full to the brim)once 856 has Full Fleet DD, 859 can be removed. 882 could see some A22 or E50D/A95.
Right, a while ago, 912 failed WAB (info from SMB315C). 980 and 882 did fail WAB before. 980 had O405s cameos in lieu of shortage of A22s then. 882 had two buses then, just one non-WAB would mean WAB failure.
856 is already "almost" full fleet high capacity buses. 859A/B is required irrespective as route is different than 2 stops where it is common.
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Actually 859 is an essential service for SEM residents. This is the bus service where passengers in the northern part of the estate get to ride direct to CP where there are many shops not available in SEM. It also provides connection to YIS so that passengers can make transfers to other destinations such as Bedok & Tampines. In addition, many students of Sembawang Sec live in Yishun, so its no wonder why 859 is fairly full during peak hours instead of walking to far bus stops which I dont see why the residents want to do so
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Originally posted by SBS2656X:
More A95s are coming so don't worry
The issue is that it's totally hopeless to deploy DD on feeder/intratown/psuedo-feeder services (aka 962, 964, 860, etc)
SMRT is just mindlessly WAB-ing services which they don't even have the proper buses for. SBST has DD successfully on feeder/townlink services because they're deployed on those services for years now. No one wants to go upstairs for a few stops. Less said for the elderly who does frequent feeder services as well.Although bendies are the best for those feeders, at least it's better to have DDs on those SMRT WAB feeders rather than spamming A22s.
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Crazy ah 859 removed?It can be extend to serve and loop at Central 2 passingby Yishun Int if DDs is required.Even 859A/B get average loadings..852 can also extend to Sembawang passingby Yishun Int..
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
If 811 were to get DDs, will 812, 806 get the DDs as well?
However, two things remains, the lack of DDs and the WAB waves.
All trees along Yishun St 61 had just been trimmed to provide 4.5m clearance today.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
All trees along Yishun St 61 had just been trimmed to provide 4.5m clearance today.
erm for 812.
811 is st 81
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
erm for 812.
811 is st 81
Yes of course St 61 is for 812 if anything. But it may be an unrelated event - for example, an unrelated regular scheduled task for NParks, so dont read too much into it yeah ;)
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Dont hope too much from them..If its true treat that as a bonus..For a start 811/812 lead the way then Wldep can start for their intratown svc.
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Two More City Direct Services to Improve Connectivity to the City
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
All trees along Yishun St 61 had just been trimmed to provide 4.5m clearance today.
Once again ... would have been great if LTA would just redirect one trunk service over to serve St 61. Makes no sense to have all of the trunks crowd around the same road and bus stops while the interior is poorly served.
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
Once again ... would have been great if LTA would just redirect one trunk service over to serve St 61. Makes no sense to have all of the trunks crowd around the same road and bus stops while the interior is poorly served.
Well I certainly wont mind if a DD-equipped service like 857 or 969 pops by St 61
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Well I certainly wont mind if a DD-equipped service like 857 or 969 pops by St 61
969 should not... We could have 859 loop around st 61 / Yishun Central for Sembawang - Yishun town connectivity... and have 853 go via Yishun Central / st 61 or ave 4 / Ring road to Yishun ave 2.
The overall connectivity of Yishun east town has also improved with 117 now doing ave 1 and 103 doing ave 11.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
969 should not... We could have 859 loop around st 61 / Yishun Central for Sembawang - Yishun town connectivity... and have 853 go via Yishun Central / st 61 or ave 4 / Ring road to Yishun ave 2.
The overall connectivity of Yishun east town has also improved with 117 now doing ave 1 and 103 doing ave 11.
117 can do St 61 as well.. sure to boost ridership and make better use of their DD's
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Originally posted by AJQZC:
Once again ... would have been great if LTA would just redirect one trunk service over to serve St 61. Makes no sense to have all of the trunks crowd around the same road and bus stops while the interior is poorly served.
Yishun is getting better and better. Trunk services listed below.
Ave 1 - 117 (Sembawang - SAP - Punggol)
Ave 2 - too many services to list
Ave 3 - 169 (AMK - Upper Thomson - Sembawang - Admiralty North - Woodlands)
Ave 5 - 856, 858, 859, 969 (connects Changi Airport, Tampines, Punggol TPE & Sembawang, Admiralty, Admiralty North, Woodlands)
Ave 7 - 965 (Sengkang - Admiralty / Woodlands)
Ave 7 - need service near industrial area
Ave 9 - no service today
Ave 11 - 103 (Serangoon - YCK Road - Sengkang - SAP)
Ring Road - no service today
Ave 4/6 - no service today
* So basically we need 1 service to be routed via ave 9 / ring road to Khatib (this could be service 851 & 859)
* 1 service routed via Ave 4 or st 61 (this could be service 853 & 859)
* With these modifications most of the job can be done
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yishun is getting better and better. Trunk services listed below.
Ave 1 - 117 (Sembawang - SAP - Punggol)
Ave 2 - too many services to list
Ave 3 - 169 (AMK - Upper Thomson - Sembawang - Admiralty North - Woodlands)
Ave 5 - 856, 858, 859, 969 (connects Changi Airport, Tampines, Punggol TPE & Sembawang, Admiralty, Admiralty North, Woodlands)
Ave 7 - 965 (Sengkang - Admiralty / Woodlands)
Ave 7 - need service near industrial area
Ave 9 - no service today
Ave 11 - 103 (Serangoon - YCK Road - Sengkang - SAP)
Ring Road - no service today
Ave 4/6 - no service today
* So basically we need 1 service to be routed via ave 9 / ring road to Khatib (this could be service 851 & 859)
* 1 service routed via Ave 4 or st 61 (this could be service 853 & 859)
* With these modifications most of the job can be done
Going via Ave 9 to Khatib is hard... what I had in mind is for a future Sembawang - Canberra - Yishun short trunk that enters Yishun via Ave 2 / 7 / 6 / 9, then loops around at Central / Central 2 to Yishun MRT station, and back to Ave 9. Easy access for Ave 7 / 9 residents and workers to Canberra MRT station as well.
Extended Ave 8 may need some sort of service in the future.
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DD has been spotted testing 811 and 812 nowadays
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Joint News Release: Introduction of Bus Service 979M from Sunday, 24 April 2016
https://www.smrt.com.sg/Media/Press-release/News/articleid/778/%20News%20Releases/parentId/180/year/2016?category=Announcements%20
SMRT introduces Service 975B from 24 April 2016
https://www.smrt.com.sg/Media/Press-release/News/articleid/777/%20News%20Releases/parentId/180/year/2016?category=Announcements%20 -
Heard from someone LTA order quite a number of A95s.Maybe SBST also will getting it?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Heard from someone LTA order quite a number of A95s.Maybe SBST also will getting it?
172 will be extended from Boon Lay to Poyan using a fleet of 30 lush green 4 door A95 and 30 Scania K310UDs.
149 will be introduced between West Perimeter Road and Lim Chu Kang jetty via ECP, MCE, Pulau Semakau, AYE, Jalan Bahar, Poyan, Danderhall, Sarimbun, Pusara Aman, Lor Rusuk, Murai Farmway, Ama Keng, Sungei Gedong MRT and Cluney Gardens.
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Originally posted by Northlight Bus:
172 will be extended from Boon Lay to Poyan using a fleet of 30 lush green 4 door A95 and 30 Scania K310UDs.
149 will be introduced between West Perimeter Road and Lim Chu Kang jetty via ECP, MCE, Pulau Semakau, AYE, Jalan Bahar, Poyan, Danderhall, Sarimbun, Pusara Aman, Lor Rusuk, Murai Farmway, Ama Keng, Sungei Gedong MRT and Cluney Gardens.
Amend to Japan leh..
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Originally posted by SMB3163D:
Amend to Japan leh..
51 will become hougang to hotel miramar loop under the Bukom Package in 2020