The most get extra 2-3 Citaros..DD better use for 3,43,62 and 118.Punggol/Sengkang already have LRT as an alternative.
Originally posted by carbikebus:The most get extra 2-3 Citaros..DD better use for 3,43,62 and 118.Punggol/Sengkang already have LRT as an alternative.
Hi mr carbikebus, LRT cannot reach edgefield plains end and edgedale plains end. Moreover, the two places are populated with HDB flats. 1 bus service is a bit too little considering that there are other roads in Singapore with at least 3 to 5 bus services. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Good move by LTA. Although I prefered 102 to do Westcamp as 102 has limited demand at Jln Kayu sector.
For 386, I have nothing to say, conservative.
Btw this 1 different route planner plan ah?
Hi mr sbs6750E, sooner or later sbs 102 needs to go in to west camp road as well once the area gets more developed in the next few years. Cheers. Thanks.
I somehow believe that this is not the end for 386...the two Edgefield Plains ends might be joined together and therefore, plying the thorough road would make 386 skip Oasis LRT. Therefore, the two differentiating loops will no longer exist.
Originally posted by Gus.chong:I somehow believe that this is not the end for 386...the two Edgefield Plains ends might be joined together and therefore, plying the thorough road would make 386 skip Oasis LRT. Therefore, the two differentiating loops will no longer exist.
Hi mr Gus.chong, there is a semi expressway right behind. The road is currently being used by vehicles for constructing. If sbs 386 is routed to go and serve using that expressway, then another new service needs to come in to serve all the new bus stops erected outside horizon and greendale primary school. It is totally not possible that they take out the only service passing by these few stops without replacement. You can see from sbs 76/134 episode. If they want to do so, they will have done it this time. Unfortunately they reinforced it by doubling this connection.
If they are to decide it to go by semi expressway which is totally behind all these buildings, sbs 386 route will have been totally different. No need to go to whole of Punggol east. It will need to go to Punggol drive to access the semi-expressway. As of present, these two roads cannot be linked straight across. Unless you need to demolish many HDB flats already built. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr sbs6750E, sooner or later sbs 102 needs to go in to west camp road as well once the area gets more developed in the next few years. Cheers. Thanks.
There are plans for 102 to be extended to East Camp once the area there develops.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr Gus.chong, there is a semi expressway right behind. The road is currently being used by vehicles for constructing. If sbs 386 is routed to go and serve using that expressway, then another new service needs to come in to serve all the new bus stops erected outside horizon and greendale primary school. It is totally not possible that they take out the only service passing by these few stops without replacement. You can see from sbs 76/134 episode. If they want to do so, they will have done it this time. Unfortunately they reinforced it by doubling this connection.
If they are to decide it to go by semi expressway which is totally behind all these buildings, sbs 386 route will have been totally different. No need to go to whole of Punggol east. It will need to go to Punggol drive to access the semi-expressway. As of present, these two roads cannot be linked straight across. Unless you need to demolish many HDB flats already built. Cheers. Thanks.
I don't know why do you assume that with this change Punggol Plaza connection will be withdrawn. Not necessary. 386 can go via semi-expressway in future from Edgefield Plains (end) to Edgedale Plains (end) and can then still do all of Edgedale Plains to Punggol Plaza and loop as of today. The only stop that will be skipped is Oasis LRT along Punggol Dr (which if you see today has almost 0 boarding/alighting) because you have LRT connecting Punggol Dr to Punggol Plaza.
Originally posted by Sbs6750E:Good move by LTA. Although I prefered 102 to do Westcamp as 102 has limited demand at Jln Kayu sector.
For 386, I have nothing to say, conservative.
Btw this 1 different route planner plan ah?
What do you mean by 386 is conservative?
Also logical sense to have 117 do West Camp to improve its loading rather than extend 102 which acts as 3-4 mini feeders (Sengkang West - Sengkang MRT, Compassalve - Buangkok MRT, Buangkok MRT - Buangkok Dr, Upper Serangoon Road - Hougang MRT)
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:I don't know why do you assume that with this change Punggol Plaza connection will be withdrawn. Not necessary. 386 can go via semi-expressway in future from Edgefield Plains (end) to Edgedale Plains (end) and can then still do all of Edgedale Plains to Punggol Plaza and loop as of today. The only stop that will be skipped is Oasis LRT along Punggol Dr (which if you see today has almost 0 boarding/alighting) because you have LRT connecting Punggol Dr to Punggol Plaza.
Hi mr busanalyser, as far as I know, the semi-expressway is not linked to edgefield plains and edgedale plains. That is the problem why I say it cannot continue on its current loop. Anyway, current 24 April route is good.
Moreover, sbs 386 must ply oasis LRT. Now you see zero passengers at this stop. By end of next year, when the new mall besides oasis LRT is up, you will see a flicker of residents from either edgefield plains end or edgedale plains end residents taking this bus to oasis LRT stop. Note that the mall will also have Punggol polyclinic. This mall is just nicely located in between these 2 roads. It is not possible for people to keep walking. I doubt they will re-route it to go by semi-expressway. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr busanalyser, as far as I know, the semi-expressway is not linked to edgefield plains and edgedale plains. That is the problem why I say it cannot continue on its current loop. Anyway, current 24 April route is good.
Moreover, sbs 386 must ply oasis LRT. Now you see zero passengers at this stop. By end of next year, when the new mall besides oasis LRT is up, you will see a flicker of residents from either edgefield plains end or edgedale plains end residents taking this bus to oasis LRT stop. Note that the mall will also have Punggol polyclinic. This mall is just nicely located in between these 2 roads. It is not possible for people to keep walking. I doubt they will re-route it to go by semi-expressway. Cheers. Thanks.
I didn't know there is a new mall coming there. Current route is also okay.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:I didn't know there is a new mall coming there. Current route is also okay.
Hi mr busanalyser, yes the mall is under construction since mid June 2015 and is slated for completion in Q4 2017/Q1 2018. The polyclinic may open first. The mall is named oasis terraces. This is so called the neighbourhood mall for edgefield and edgedale plus many others living along Punggol drive. Expects lots of crowds again and it is pity there are only sbs 50 and sbs 386 serving this mall. It is also a pity that one feeder bus service sbs 386 is expected to serve so many areas inside Punggol east. However it is also good that it connects many areas that well using 1 bus service. Cheers. Thanks.
There is a likelihood that the new BSEP buses registered from now onwards are in the new SG♡Bus livery.
The two BSEP "new" routes may get buses with the new SG♡Bus livery. There may or may not be operator logo, since the Loyang GCM will begin shortly.
If bus service 258 gets capacity downgrade in the form of double-to-single decker bus replacements, it is likely that some of bus service 258's double decker buses will be re-deployed on either bus service 117 or 386. If there is no other BSEP bus with SBS Transit livery, it is likely that the rest of the new buses will be brand new buses in the new SG♡Bus livery.
Originally posted by azharjj:i know... thats why i say too ambitious
if they want to make like 189/201 & 76/134 style and since it is at the east, i can only think of 67
I can think of 66. 66 might be too big if it is amended, trust me. Plying via MacPherson Road, Airport Road, Eunos Link and also Bt Batok St 11, Bt Batok West Ave 6? It will be a joke.
The service 66 (West) can run from Jurong East and terminate at Bendemeer Terminus, located at Downtown Line Stage 3 station if necessary.
The service 66 (East) can run from Bedok and terminate at Dhoby Ghaut Station, then mealbreaks in front of Lau Lee's house at 38 Oxley Road?
Commuters are not inconvenienced as they can make transfers at Serangoon Road/Jalan Besar.
Originally posted by TPS Timothy Mok:I can think of 66. 66 might be too big if it is amended, trust me. Plying via MacPherson Road, Airport Road, Eunos Link and also Bt Batok St 11, Bt Batok West Ave 6? It will be a joke.
The service 66 (West) can run from Jurong East and terminate at Bendemeer Terminus, located at Downtown Line Stage 3 station if necessary.
The service 66 (East) can run from Bedok and terminate at Dhoby Ghaut Station, then mealbreaks in front of Lau Lee's house at 38 Oxley Road?
Commuters are not inconvenienced as they can make transfers at Serangoon Road/Jalan Besar.
Hi mr TPS Timothy Mok, you mean the authorities will create 2 new different areas, bendemeer terminus and dhoby ghaut station just to accommodate 1 service broken into 2? Doubt so. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr busanalyser, yes the mall is under construction since mid June 2015 and is slated for completion in Q4 2017/Q1 2018. The polyclinic may open first. The mall is named oasis terraces. This is so called the neighbourhood mall for edgefield and edgedale plus many others living along Punggol drive. Expects lots of crowds again and it is pity there are only sbs 50 and sbs 386 serving this mall. It is also a pity that one feeder bus service sbs 386 is expected to serve so many areas inside Punggol east. However it is also good that it connects many areas that well using 1 bus service. Cheers. Thanks.
Ok. I thought Oasis Terraces is a new condo. Given that there is Waterway Point condo just opened + Punggol Plaza. So lot of options for Punggol residents.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Ok. I thought Oasis Terraces is a new condo. Given that there is Waterway Point condo just opened + Punggol Plaza. So lot of options for Punggol residents.
Hi mr busanalyser, it is not much actually. Sengkang area has 4 malls, namely seletar mall, compass point (renamed as 1 sengkang mall), rivervale plaza and rivervale mall. So there should be 2 more coming up for Punggol. They are the northshore mall already announced and oasis terraces already in construction. Cheers. Thanks.
All, besides sbs 117 amendment and 386 extension which are under BSEP banners in posters, there is also sbs 21. However the poster does not have BSEP logo. So should not be under BSEP. Anyway, sbs 21 is amended into Jalan tenteram and serve 2 bus stops. Implementation date is also 24 April 2016. Cheers. Thanks.
The routes of Services 21, 117 and 386 will be adjusted from Sunday, 24 April 2016. The details are as follows:
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2016-04-11-01.aspx
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/route_ext_of_svcs_386_and_amendment_of_svca_117_and_21.pdf
Originally posted by dupdup77:All, besides sbs 117 amendment and 386 extension which are under BSEP banners in posters, there is also sbs 21. However the poster does not have BSEP logo. So should not be under BSEP. Anyway, sbs 21 is amended into Jalan tenteram and serve 2 bus stops. Implementation date is also 24 April 2016. Cheers. Thanks.
so it is not 139M which is amended...
Originally posted by lemon1974:The routes of Services 21, 117 and 386 will be adjusted from Sunday, 24 April 2016. The details are as follows:
- Service 386: Route extension along Edgedale Plains
- Service 117: Route amendment to ply West Camp Road, skipping Seletar West Link
- Service 21: Route amendment into Jalan Tenteram
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2016-04-11-01.aspx
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/route_ext_of_svcs_386_and_amendment_of_svca_117_and_21.pdf
Hopefully after this move, sv 21 will get much awaited SD->DD conversion.
On another note, excited to see DDs on 386 as reported by dupdup.
Bus Service 983 to serve new bus stops along Choa Chu Kang Avenue 7 from Sunday, 24 April 2016
https://www.smrt.com.sg/Media/Press-release/News/articleid/755/%20News%20Releases/parentId/180/year/2016?category=Announcements%20
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Hopefully after this move, sv 21 will get much awaited SD->DD conversion.
On another note, excited to see DDs on 386 as reported by dupdup.
I just came back from Punggol,Nvr see any DDs serving 386 leh
Originally posted by carbikebus:I just came back from Punggol,Nvr see any DDs serving 386 leh
Hi mr carbikebus, the DDs are just my predictions for peak hours starting from 24 april 2016 only. It may or may not be true. I perceive it may have based on current loading for edgefield plains end at peak hours only. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr carbikebus, the DDs are just my predictions for peak hours starting from 24 april 2016 only. It may or may not be true. I perceive it may have based on current loading for edgefield plains end at peak hours only. Cheers. Thanks.
There is no news about svc 386 BCs learn DDs also,I used to stanby at Punggol Int during my stint with Hgdep last time and today i learn a few Punggol svc and chat with my former colleagues also.