43 should have 15 DDs and 6 SDs while 43M can do with 50/50.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:Are you serious about 19 buses for 43?
It's not about the number of DDs. 43 operates at a frequency of 11-14 mins from 6.30 am to 7.00 am. 43 needs 1 fleet add.
On service 43/43M, Citaro passenger hogs are quite common throughout the day. The Citaro is just 1-2 mins ahead of a DD. The Citaro usually has far more passengers than the DD behind.
Error in calculation.. .should be 15 DDs, 6 SDs = 21 buses.
43M operates with 6 SDs.
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so now SBS7470G is officially being the 1st bus to have a new commericial ad on a BSEP service?
Originally posted by lemon1974:so now SBS7470G is officially being the 1st bus to have a new commericial ad on a BSEP service?
New commercial ad. Not counting ads 'left over' from the previous perm e.g. SBS8980U on 116.
Originally posted by SBS3004X:New commercial ad. Not counting ads 'left over' from the previous perm e.g. SBS8980U on 116.
7470 gotten ad for almost 2 wks already as for 8980U already adless liao
not sure whether this is off topic but i waited for Sv 950 at JB customs towards Singapore Customs for 2hours yesterday (Sunday) around 9pm. Is 950 under BSEP? Only saw 4 Sv 950 buses towards JB Sentral in a span of 2 hours while 170/170x had about 10 buses coming.
When it finally come everyone in the haotic and messy 2 storey queue all the way from the immigration level to the bus berths rushed and pushed, fought to get on board the bus. Very chaotic situation even though 950 has many buses.
Cause? : I asked the Sv 950 BC why it took him 2 hours to arrive. He said that it's the Malaysian government's fault along Jalan Lingkaran Dalam, entrance to JB Customs bus bay ? blocked the long queue of buses and the Malaysian Authorities didnt even bother to help. Therefore, 950 was stuck there for 2 hours.
I believe that the Sv 950 queue was only cleared after 12 Midnight as the buses only started to stroll in after 10:45PM. (2 hour wait after 8:55pm)
Originally posted by SBS5010P:not sure whether this is off topic but i waited for Sv 950 at JB customs towards Singapore Customs for 2hours yesterday (Sunday) around 9pm. Is 950 under BSEP? Only saw 4 Sv 950 buses towards JB Sentral in a span of 2 hours while 170/170x had about 10 buses coming.
When it finally come everyone in the haotic and messy 2 storey queue all the way from the immigration level to the bus berths rushed and pushed, fought to get on board the bus. Very chaotic situation even though 950 has many buses.
Cause? : I asked the Sv 950 BC why it took him 2 hours to arrive. He said that the Illegal parking of motorcycles and private buses along Jalan Lingkaran Dalam, entrance to JB Customs bus bay blocked the long queue of buses and the Malaysian Authorities didnt even bother to get them to move. Therefore, 950 was stuck there for 2 hours.
I believe that the Sv 950 queue was only cleared after 12 Midnight as the buses only started to stroll in after 10:45PM. (2 hour wait after 8:55pm)
Not surprised by yr comments. Firstly no cross border route are under BSEP. Secondly, 2storey queue is not a rare sight at JB customs especially during weekends, be it 160/170/170X, CWs, 950, AC7 etc.. Frequency of 170/170X is also much better than that of 950.(10 buses is considered little for 170/170X for 2 hours in fact).
There are many causes for delays for cross borders route(not sure if yr cause is common). But sometimes when jams occur, BCs just skip trips or u-turn at JB customs in order to catch up with their subsequent ones, which may explain yr long wait.
Originally posted by SBS5010P:not sure whether this is off topic but i waited for Sv 950 at JB customs towards Singapore Customs for 2hours yesterday (Sunday) around 9pm. Is 950 under BSEP? Only saw 4 Sv 950 buses towards JB Sentral in a span of 2 hours while 170/170x had about 10 buses coming.
When it finally come everyone in the haotic and messy 2 storey queue all the way from the immigration level to the bus berths rushed and pushed, fought to get on board the bus. Very chaotic situation even though 950 has many buses.
Cause? : I asked the Sv 950 BC why it took him 2 hours to arrive. He said that the Illegal parking of motorcycles and private buses along Jalan Lingkaran Dalam, entrance to JB Customs bus bay blocked the long queue of buses and the Malaysian Authorities didnt even bother to get them to move. Therefore, 950 was stuck there for 2 hours.
I believe that the Sv 950 queue was only cleared after 12 Midnight as the buses only started to stroll in after 10:45PM. (2 hour wait after 8:55pm)
Not the parking of vehicles causing the delay... it is due to mr 26 billion is in Johor on sunday and they close a lot of roads, causing traffic jam everywhere and also due to the boleh malaysia custom who open 10 of 38 car counters which results in long queue in the roads leading to the check point, thus affecting the buses....
not sure why u have to wait for 950 at JB custom when u can jolly well take 170/170x..
And u can take bus kilang or Causeway link wich are more frequent than 950
Originally posted by TIB 585L:And u can take bus kilang or Causeway link wich are more frequent than 950
or walk...... haha.. sunday night is the worst, because a lot of ppl are coming to Singapore.... and most of them came via City Square/JB Sentral..
Originally posted by lemon1974:Not the parking of vehicles causing the delay... it is due to mr 26 billion is in Johor on sunday and they close a lot of roads, causing traffic jam everywhere and also due to the boleh malaysia custom who open 10 of 38 car counters which results in long queue in the roads leading to the check point, thus affecting the buses....
not sure why u have to wait for 950 at JB custom when u can jolly well take 170/170x..
160 and 170 berth is right next to the custom, whereas 950 berth is across the road. Most people take 160 or 170. Only a few cross the road to take 950. It's easier to take 950 than to take 160 or 170.
This probably explains why SBS5010P took 950 instead of 170.
950 is like a insider's "privilege", where those who know that 950 easier to take can actually come back to Singapore faster. :)
Anyway, I guess that was a one-off incident.
but I do not understand why they need to close the lanes at custom or the causeway... you say Mr Najib come Johor Bahru... also not come Singapore... why must close the lanes at custom or the causeway?
I do not know what happened la.... but I guess that day something happened, and the authorities have to increase security checks, that's why traffic is slower at custom.
Originally posted by lemon1974:or walk...... haha.. sunday night is the worst, because a lot of ppl are coming to Singapore.... and most of them came via City Square/JB Sentral..
causeway can walk meh?
wa... if like that I one of these day maybe can go there do morning walk/jog from Singapore to Malaysia... lol.
Well, speaking of the City Square, it seems that most Singaporeans go over to JB is only to go to the City Square Mall, or the other shopping mall beside it.
they think over there things are cheaper, but actually, after converting the prices from RM to SGD, it costs about the same... haha. :D
Originally posted by gekpohboy:160 and 170 berth is right next to the custom, whereas 950 berth is across the road. Most people take 160 or 170. Only a few cross the road to take 950. It's easier to take 950 than to take 160 or 170.
This probably explains why SBS5010P took 950 instead of 170.
950 is like a insider's "privilege", where those who know that 950 easier to take can actually come back to Singapore faster. :)
Anyway, I guess that was a one-off incident.
but I do not understand why they need to close the lanes at custom or the causeway... you say Mr Najib come Johor Bahru... also not come Singapore... why must close the lanes at custom or the causeway?
I do not know what happened la.... but I guess that day something happened, and the authorities have to increase security checks, that's why traffic is slower at custom.
mr najib go JB...so a lot of road near JB are closed... so cars are being diverted to other roads, thus causing congestion, and malaysia custom closed 28 of the 38 lanes in malaysia custom because their manpower are either sleeping or off or eating snake.......
Originally posted by gekpohboy:causeway can walk meh?
wa... if like that I one of these day maybe can go there do morning walk/jog from Singapore to Malaysia... lol.
Well, speaking of the City Square, it seems that most Singaporeans go over to JB is only to go to the City Square Mall, or the other shopping mall beside it.
they think over there things are cheaper, but actually, after converting the prices from RM to SGD, it costs about the same... haha. :D
Causeway got people walk
causeway use to can walk across. i did it before. but now seem like it out of bound. in fact i think both government should allow walking across the causeway to reduce time. If najib want the forested city to be one of the key city in JB it time for them to do something on the causeway. like removing addtional tramsports cost. it stupid but then money is king.
i wanted to walk across the causeway however didnt know how to.
I did saw the blue buses but however the bus drivers abused the passengers by making them run after the bus and refusing to open the doors for them to board. Even have to pay them $2 just to get across the causeway? Even though it was frequent but it came in various forms of sizes of buses including vans
The queue for causeway link bus svcs were already in snakes.
This is my 1st time waiting 2 hours for Sv 950.
Originally posted by gekpohboy:160 and 170 berth is right next to the custom, whereas 950 berth is across the road. Most people take 160 or 170. Only a few cross the road to take 950. It's easier to take 950 than to take 160 or 170.
This probably explains why SBS5010P took 950 instead of 170.
950 is like a insider's "privilege", where those who know that 950 easier to take can actually come back to Singapore faster. :)
Anyway, I guess that was a one-off incident.
but I do not understand why they need to close the lanes at custom or the causeway... you say Mr Najib come Johor Bahru... also not come Singapore... why must close the lanes at custom or the causeway?
I do not know what happened la.... but I guess that day something happened, and the authorities have to increase security checks, that's why traffic is slower at custom.
I went to take 950 as the queue is shorter compared to the queue for 160, 170 and 170x as it is really too long. Not many people prefer to take 950 as compared to 160, 170 and 170x at JB customs
Originally posted by SBS5010P:I went to take 950 as the queue is shorter compared to the queue for 160, 170 and 170x as it is really too long. Not many people prefer to take 950 as compared to 160, 170 and 170x at JB customs
I went to try it myself today. I cleared the Malaysia custom at 5:15pm and went to wait for bus 950. When I walked to the berth, it was 5:19pm. When the bus 950 arrived, it was 5:40pm. I waited for twenty one minutes for bus 950 to arrive.
While waiting for bus 950 to arrive, I saw many buses of 170*, 170 and 160 driving off with loads of people.
As compared to around two months ago when I last visited Johor Bahru, I feel that the frequency of bus 950 has been reduced. Last time bus 950 comes once every ten minutes or so. Now is around twenty minutes.
I guess this is because bus company SMRT probably has a shortage of buses, that they have to cut down on the buses on 950, that is why now the wait is so long.
If the frequency of bus 950 is now reduced to around twenty minutes, I feel that bus company SMRT should put up the bus arrival timing of bus 950 at the bus stop, so that people can know how long to wait (and decide if they want to take bus 160/170/170* instead).
From Singapore custom, I take bus 170. This is partly because I have concession pass so I can take unlimited bus rides, but really, what is the point in joining a very long queue to wait very long for that bus 950, just so as to save that bit of money if you take a new bus ride? It is not as if the very long amount time of yours is worth only that small amount of fare for new bus ride. So what for save on that small amount of money, which is like only around S$1 (RM3) at most?
If have bus, just take. Singapore Bus 160, 170, 170* and 950 all ply the same route between Singapore custom and Malaysia custom. So why be so particular about what bus to take? Whichever comes first, just take.
Originally posted by gekpohboy:I went to try it myself today. I cleared the Malaysia custom at 5:15pm and went to wait for bus 950. When I walked to the berth, it was 5:19pm. When the bus 950 arrived, it was 5:40pm. I waited for twenty one minutes for bus 950 to arrive.
While waiting for bus 950 to arrive, I saw many buses of 170*, 170 and 160 driving off with loads of people.
As compared to around two months ago when I last visited Johor Bahru, I feel that the frequency of bus 950 has been reduced. Last time bus 950 comes once every ten minutes or so. Now is around twenty minutes.
I guess this is because bus company SMRT probably has a shortage of buses, that they have to cut down on the buses on 950, that is why now the wait is so long.
If the frequency of bus 950 is now reduced to around twenty minutes, I feel that bus company SMRT should put up the bus arrival timing of bus 950 at the bus stop, so that people can know how long to wait (and decide if they want to take bus 160/170/170* instead).
From Singapore custom, I take bus 170. This is partly because I have concession pass so I can take unlimited bus rides, but really, what is the point in joining a very long queue to wait very long for that bus 950, just so as to save that bit of money if you take a new bus ride? It is not as if the very long amount time of yours is worth only that small amount of fare for new bus ride. So what for save on that small amount of money, which is like only around S$1 (RM3) at most?
If have bus, just take. Singapore Bus 160, 170, 170* and 950 all ply the same route between Singapore custom and Malaysia custom. So why be so particular about what bus to take? Whichever comes first, just take.
Hi mr gekpohboy, I think your comment is invalid. You need to observe the departing frequency of smrt 950 at woodlands bus interchange in order to know its frequency. I observed before. Cheers. Thanks.
Looks like we're about to go off topic. A quick one. Can we get free transfer between 160/950/170 if we're heading from JUE to Larkin?
I believe the reason why the original poster wrote about bus 950 poor frequency at Johor Bahru custom is because he feels that public cross-boarder bus services like 950, especially 950, should get BSEP service enhancement.
but, really, if it's really traffic congestion, then how come only 950 affected? How come 170, 170* and 160 not affected?
I still think it's because SMRT not enough buses, so they have to take away buses from 950 and use them on mainland Singapore bus routes, and as a result 950 frequency is reduced.
if possible, they should relocate the 950 berth to next to 170, 170* and 160 berth. then next time everyone just take whichever bus comes. although the queue may be long, but with the capacity of buses per hour, everyone can get on the bus back to Singapore fast. :)
otherwise, maybe LTA should enhance bus service 950 by having BSEP buses in the fleet. I know cross-boarder bus services are special bus services, but... at least... at least try to move 950 berth to next to 160/170/170* berths. :)
Its not because SMRT Wldep does not have enough A22s but they simply doesnt want the remaining 8 JB A22s to idle in depot..Ideal fleet for 950 is 13(11A/P 2 S1)buses during Weekdays and 15(13 A/P 2 TQ) buses during Weekends.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr gekpohboy, I think your comment is invalid. You need to observe the departing frequency of smrt 950 at woodlands bus interchange in order to know its frequency. I observed before. Cheers. Thanks.
It just hapened that I was at Woodlands during evening peak (5.30-6.15pm) today.
Did not realy take note of 950's timings, but IMHO its frequency is really quite bad... Maybe not as bad as 20 minutes, but definitely longer than 10 minutes.
And every single bus leaving Woodlands Reg Int was packed to the door (even more packed than 911/912/913). Wonder how could people board at Marsiling.
Time to registered 10 OCs back(125-134) as a back up.