SMRT launches Alexander Dennis Enviro500 MMC (Part 2)
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
If im a RP student, i wouldnt even bother to go to upper deck, i rather take a bendy and stand at the door
Theyre used to bendy buses since its SMRT territory,Give some time im sure many will go up.Those working Senoko always go upper deck
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
If im a RP student, i wouldnt even bother to go to upper deck, i rather take a bendy and stand at the door
Honestly, I think it is a mentality problem. 72B is just like 902, yet the DDs on 72B go with 120 pax... with full upper deck... such that when DD comes back to terminal it is pulled back to the front of the queue...
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
SMB3602D - 169, at around 1:41pm...
Lower Deck - FULL
Upper Deck - 3 Pax only..Quite a handful of people in the queue, BC didn't check upper deck. Which is the reason why I disapprove full DD fleet for 169, similarly for 902 having DD. It's also EXAM period btw...
You need to realize that 169 just does not do WRI to RP... it has a lot more stops ahead... I have seen good upper decks on 169 between AMK and Springleaf, between Yishun and Seneko & Senoko and WRI...
So this is definitely not representative. Ofcourse BC needs to do a better job if students are not going to upper deck. He will not bother if the queue is light. At 1.41pm, I don't necessarily think 169 will have a very long queue.
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They should operate 902 on RP exam days too other than RP school days, Cant depend on 169 though during the exam times.
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i have seen full load on a 902 bendies. it is sure worse on a raining day.
169 bendies is almost emptied at its second stop.
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
They should operate 902 on RP exam days too other than RP school days, Cant depend on 169 though during the exam times.
now most of the 169's bendies have either downgraded to Rigids or slight up to DDs.
902 frequency is way better.
i hope to see full load on 169/902 DDs. at least on a raining day that is also a RP School/exam day.
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902 will always have full load. 169 last time also very packed when a bendy comes. At times 2 902 can come tank the load together
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The queue is long fyi...even after this trip(not seen in the pic). And my whole idea is that 902 is not suitable to get DD, and 169 should have a "smart" fleet where most DDs runs on peak hours, bendy buses runs during off-peak.
It's a good scenario here, that DD is not always useful for 169. This happens a few times, even without RP students boarding. So they should focus more on balancing the right fleet. Plus, it's off peak, I believe bendy buses would be better. Just leave the peak hours to the DD.
For 902, it's better for the service to run at an hour interval after 10am(i.e. 1040 1050 1055, 1240, 1250, 1255 etc.) to match the class timing. 169 commuters also find it hard to board during certain hours in the afternoon.
How to compare 902 with 72B when the distance is different? I believe for 72B, ITE students will usually head up due to the stopover at NYP.
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Anyway, 171 gets DD cameo recently...but was pulled out from svc awhile later..
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Getting abit OT here..
But ideal 169 & 902 fleet of mine...
169 [WLDEP/AMDEP]
5 out of 11 split shifts - DD ; 6 SDs
2 out of 16 AP shifts - DD ; rest mixture of 6 Bendy, 8 SDs902 [WLDEP]
5 SDs on AP shifts + 3 Bendy crossovers.
- Current pair-up with 904 is a good choice.
- After months of TE1 opening, if loading drops, renumber to 902A where 902 connects residents to TE1 station. -
Can buses enter Republic Cres?If Yes can request LTA to make 902 weekday operation hours from 0700-2030.
2 A/P , 4 S1 and 3 crossover bendy/DD during peak periods
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Can't have DDs for peak and bendies for off peak. Such an arrangement causes unnecessary fleet control headaches. You can't have your cake and eat it too
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Originally posted by TIB868X:
Can't have DDs for peak and bendies for off peak. Such an arrangement causes unnecessary fleet control headaches. You can't have your cake and eat it too
then might as well Peak operate by SBST off peak operate by SMRT 
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like this, might as well give 169 back to SBST
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My bad..but I think it's clear when I listed out the deployments...so yeah~~
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Can buses enter Republic Cres?If Yes can request LTA to make 902 weekday operation hours from 0700-2030.
2 A/P , 4 S1 and 3 crossover bendy/DD during peak periods
There's no need to enter Republic Cres, pax will mostly alight at the bus stop if they are rushing.
I don't think it's necessary also, otherwise 184A and a few more svces(if Im not wrong) wouldn't have stop operating.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
like this, might as well give 169 back to SBST
169 and 103 can do 1 for 1 swap. Make 169 start from AMK and 103 start from YIS.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Can but must extend the route to Industrial Park then
Good idea. Can have SWT catering mainly for RP kids.
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Originally posted by TIB429E:
Anyway, 171 gets DD cameo recently...but was pulled out from svc awhile later..
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Maybe because Mandai Rd got problem?The slip road from Mandai Rd up to southbound BKE has many low lying branches and is too narrow for tall vehicles to manouver around the branches.
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
like this, might as well give 169 back to SBST
Yes and also all of YIS and SBW services shud give to SBST.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Yes and also all of YIS and SBW services shud give to SBST.
i am not going to support this.
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Originally posted by iveco:
169 and 103 can do 1 for 1 swap. Make 169 start from AMK and 103 start from YIS.
Yishun Temp Int is ok
but the Yishun ITH is not so.
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Maybe because Mandai Rd got problem?I don't think Mandai road has any issues... if SMRT wants to give 171 some DDs, it can... the loading has recently increased on 171 to justify few DDs.
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171 already had its DD debut so confirmed it can use DD
