Originally posted by autumncs:Before the arrival of Tower Transit and Go Ahead, there are only 2 public bus operators: SBS Transit and SMRT. Being in a duopoly, the 2 companies became complacent and paid their drivers poorly, resulting in the SMRT bus driver strike in 2012. The strike "woke up" the government, prompting them to end the decades-old bus duopoly and switch to the Bus Contracting Model (BCM), in order to bring in new players to improve service level and employee benefits.
In view of the frequent train breakdowns and poor management, can we also end the MRT duopoly and switch to the "Train Contracting Model"? I would love to see foreign companies such as Hong Kong MTR coming to Singapore to kick the faces of SMRT management and bring in some improved services...
In the light of ur comment, i actually would welcome reliable foreign operators to take on our rail systems, and pressurise our local players to wake up
700 can make adjustments. (The section at Petir Road)
Originally posted by CZT:In the light of ur comment, i actually would welcome reliable foreign operators to take on our rail systems, and pressurise our local players to wake up
problem is who is willing to come to manage our rail system? and at what cost? are you willing to pay more to foreign operators?
are foreign operators willing to come manage the NSL/EWL at profit of few million dollars, but face high chance of backslash from commuters etc?
so if they bring MTR and same issue still appear, then how?
even if foreign operators come in, the workers are still mostly from local..
the main problem right now is maintainance..and old parts...and the TOP management of the SM**.... they should just replace everyone at the management.. hire someone with experience instead..
Originally posted by lemon1974:problem is who is willing to come to manage our rail system? and at what cost? are you willing to pay more to foreign operators?
are foreign operators willing to come manage the NSL/EWL at profit of few million dollars, but face high chance of backslash from commuters etc?
so if they bring MTR and same issue still appear, then how?
even if foreign operators come in, the workers are still mostly from local..
the main problem right now is maintainance..and old parts...and the TOP management of the SM**.... they should just replace everyone at the management.. hire someone with experience instead..
Hi mr lemon1974, I think we should let Singapore public transport system as in mrt to be managed by our local companies. We should not open it up as well. Local operators should be up to the mark. We should not always think foreigners are the best resort to any problems faced. Cheers. Thanks.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr lemon1974, I think we should let Singapore public transport system as in mrt to be managed by our local companies. We should not open it up as well. Local operators should be up to the mark. We should not always think foreigners are the best resort to any problems faced. Cheers. Thanks.
i agree, but they need someone better at the top to run the company..someone with experience... not someone from the army/air-force or navy.... that why i am asking to replace the top management first... our transport minister is saying that he does not wan to fine the operators.. but without any penalty, the operators does not really care....
what is the point of setting a penalty of up to 10% of the revenue but does not wan to enforce.....
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr lemon1974, I think we should let Singapore public transport system as in mrt to be managed by our local companies. We should not open it up as well. Local operators should be up to the mark. We should not always think foreigners are the best resort to any problems faced. Cheers. Thanks.
Some thing we need to learn from them and some thing they also need to learn from us..But as lemon say,Change the management first,Its always easier to pin point the blame to technicians but this cannot Be ongoing forever.
While the SMRT management and the gahmen try to point fingers and push blame to others, I hope they remember that it is the commuters who suffers the greatest inconvenience during a breakdown.
SMRT can fire staffs and cut bonuses and salaries, and the gahmen can impose penalty on SMRT, but that doesn't compensate the commuters' lost time.
To be more sincere, the gahmen should "punish" transport operators to give commuters a free travel day after a breakdown, and the lost revenues from the free travel day should be footed by deducting the salaries of the transport operator's management. We must let the management feel the pains of the commuters.
Originally posted by autumncs:While the SMRT management and the gahmen try to point fingers and push blame to others, I hope they remember that it is the commuters who suffers the greatest inconvenience during a breakdown.
SMRT can fire staffs and cut bonuses and salaries, and the gahmen can impose penalty on SMRT, but that doesn't compensate the commuters' lost time.
To be more sincere, the gahmen should "punish" transport operators to give commuters a free travel day after a breakdown, and the lost revenues from the free travel day should be footed by deducting the salaries of the transport operator's management. We must let the management feel the pains of the commuters.
In some countries after numerous of failure and breakdowns,The minister will be replaced or sacked.Its not fair to blame the workers.Go ahead and cut cost at everyone expense.Somemore want to cut the growth of cars and motorcycles?
Originally posted by lemon1974:problem is who is willing to come to manage our rail system? and at what cost? are you willing to pay more to foreign operators?
are foreign operators willing to come manage the NSL/EWL at profit of few million dollars, but face high chance of backslash from commuters etc?
so if they bring MTR and same issue still appear, then how?
even if foreign operators come in, the workers are still mostly from local..
the main problem right now is maintainance..and old parts...and the TOP management of the SM**.... they should just replace everyone at the management.. hire someone with experience instead..
MTR operates Melbourne trains and Stockholm Metro, but nobody seems to think they did badly there.
Originally posted by iveco:MTR operates Melbourne trains and Stockholm Metro, but nobody seems to think they did badly there.
I thought its a joint operate with John Holland group and UGL rail?
Stockholm metro is very well operate by MTR nordic IMHO...Yeah MTR is an experience rail operator.
MTR also operates Crossrail in the UK, and a number of subway lines in Beijing, Shenzhen and Hangzhou. I agree that MTR is an experienced operator.
In Hong Kong, MTR focuses mainly on rail operations, while bus services are mostly covered by bus operators KMB, Citybus and NWFB. (There are also public light buses, also known as minibuses.) Since MTR, buses and minibuses are competitors, it's common to see direct bus services and minibus services running parallel to MTR lines, providing commuters with multiple fast and direct options to travel from A to B. In the rare event when MTR breaks down, commuters can easily take buses and minibuses.
In Singapore, transport operators run both rail and bus operations, and because of that, whenever a new MRT line opens, bus services are "rationalized" to force commuters onto the MRT lines. When the MRT breaks down, commuters are stuck because most bus services are short services or winding services meant to bring commuters to MRT stations, and not meant for direct long-distance trips.
I feel that SMRT should focus on rail operations only, and SBST and other bus operators should focus on bus operations only. SMRT and the bus operators should be competitors to offer fast and direct services, so that ultimately, commuters have a choice and commuters are the one who win.
I thought Crossrail was Arriva?
Originally posted by iveco:I thought Crossrail was Arriva?
Crossrail is operated by MTR.
http://www.railwaygazette.com/news/urban/single-view/view/mtr-selected-to-operate-crossrail-services.html
MTR has experience operating rail lines around the world, as you can read from the article.
Smrt gets bombarded time again
http://www.todayonline.com/voices/lta-needs-take-harder-stance-against-smrt
TEL awarded to SMRT
Svc 944, Sv110 all awarded to SMRT
something not right with our system... imagine Bt Merah Bus package awarded to SMRT ..... simply kelong in Singapore
Originally posted by phillipC:Smrt gets bombarded time again
http://www.todayonline.com/voices/lta-needs-take-harder-stance-against-smrt
TEL awarded to SMRT
Svc 944, Sv110 all awarded to SMRT
something not right with our system... imagine Bt Merah Bus package awarded to SMRT ..... simply kelong in Singapore
well the president is also kelong lor
the entire array of systems is failing very badly.
Originally posted by phillipC:Smrt gets bombarded time again
http://www.todayonline.com/voices/lta-needs-take-harder-stance-against-smrt
TEL awarded to SMRT
Svc 944, Sv110 all awarded to SMRT
something not right with our system... imagine Bt Merah Bus package awarded to SMRT ..... simply kelong in Singapore
In all fairness, SMRT Buses and SMRT Trains are separate entities.
Originally posted by SBS2656X:In all fairness, SMRT Buses and SMRT Trains are separate entities.
still SMRT what.
it is like what SBST and its SBST DTL is.
Originally posted by SMB145B:still SMRT what.
it is like what SBST and its SBST DTL is.
That is where you are wrong.
There is a reason why the SMRT sign at BPITH has "SMRT BUSES" on it instead of "SMRT".
The deep-rooted culture is also the exact reason why free shuttles take an ass load of time to activate. Even if they do, the bus captains won't know their way.
Heck they didn't even perform height clearance test at Marina South Pier until last month's flooding incident.
Originally posted by SBS2656X:In all fairness, SMRT Buses and SMRT Trains are separate entities.
Originally posted by SMB145B:still SMRT what.
it is like what SBST and its SBST DTL is.
Still same owner ultimately (Temasek Holdings).
Originally posted by SBS2656X:That is where you are wrong.
There is a reason why the SMRT sign at BPITH has "SMRT BUSES" on it instead of "SMRT".
The deep-rooted culture is also the exact reason why free shuttles take an ass load of time to activate. Even if they do, the bus captains won't know their way.
Heck they didn't even perform height clearance test at Marina South Pier until last month's flooding incident.
Different entity same management.
Transport Minister farting really Singapore leader really embarassing
That was to have been serviced in September, we were told at an earlier press conference chaired by Mr Khaw, but this was postponed until Oct 12, because staff members claimed they could not find a time slot to get on the tracks. Then the sky opened up on Oct 7.
Mr Khaw said then: “So we are late by a few days. Had they proceeded to replace (the pumps) this thing might not even have happened.
“But I suppose that is life.”
It appears that Mr Khaw was not apprised of the facts at that time. Nor would SMRT have so blithely said that the last inspection of the anti-flooding measures was in June. Someone lied.
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/singapore/what-lies-beneath%E2%80%A6-smrt/ar-AAuiqqT?li=AAaYtuN&ocid=spartanntp
Somehow, the level of negligence, the bypassing of procedures, the attempt to cover-up and the pushing of blame in SMRT reminds me of SAF. Those who serve NS would know that a lot of things are done for wayang only. To get rid of this "heck care" attitude, perhaps SMRT needs a change of management.
Let's hope that all transport operators "wake up" after this scandal and be serious in what they're doing...
Shit happens bro..Afterall they did provide a good service in serving the rail commuters last time..We should give them a final chance
This clown simply refused to admit failure/oversight on his part
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mrt-tunnel-flooding-khaw-says-no-evidence-of-shortcomings-in-9380364