Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:67 will still need high capacity buses even after DTL. It will be like 147. There will be other services that will lose a lot of pax.
147 heavy loading is partly due to NEL rationalisation. 67 is like pre-NEL 147 not post -NEL 147.
With the increase of populations and more Foreign workers here i wont think svc like 67 would run full SDs even if DTL or any other waste money rail lines is complete..LTA already mentioned that buses will be rail backbone.In future when all assets belong to them,They cant jeopardise the transport network
Originally posted by SMB145B:147 heavy loading is partly due to NEL rationalisation. 67 is like pre-NEL 147 not post -NEL 147.
147 have heavy load pre and psot nel. lot peop take service frm hg ave8 to serangoon mrt . ifeel people prefer take 147 to serangoon mrt than take 165 to hiugang mrt given 147 fast and save more time.
147 should be full DDs for now,165 still can use 40% SDs..
New update: Yishun Temporary Bus Interchange will open on 14 March 2015, which is one day earlier as it is supposed to open in 15 March. Heard that there will be a Farewell Yishun Bus Interchange event that took place on Friday 13 March at night.
Originally posted by SMB3095S:New update: Yishun Temporary Bus Interchange will open on 14 March 2015, which is one day earlier as it is supposed to open in 15 March. Heard that there will be a Farewell Yishun Bus Interchange event that took place on Friday 13 March at night.
very gud news. i get to see double decker on svc 39.
i feel a lot CGBP spare bsep to put on svc 39 once become double decker friendly. also bndep got many spare weg to put on svc 39. hope get good number of double decker.
Originally posted by SMB3095S:New update: Yishun Temporary Bus Interchange will open on 14 March 2015, which is one day earlier as it is supposed to open in 15 March. Heard that there will be a Farewell Yishun Bus Interchange event that took place on Friday 13 March at night.
Finally, finally, finally!
My guess 39 will have 3 SD to DD covert for a start
851 will have at least 4 DDs and a few duties will be given to Wlbp
854 will have 5 DDs and 857 will get 4 DDs at a later date.
SMRT is asking for volunteers on first day. The volunteers will be invited for tour at depot
Mass redeployment soon
Originally posted by TIB1112L:SMRT is asking for volunteers on first day. The volunteers will be invited for tour at depot
Volunteers for what?
Volunteers for guiding commuters when Yishun Temp Int opens for the first time.
Originally posted by carbikebus:My guess 39 will have 3 SD to DD covert for a start
I suppose your guess of 3 SD-to-DD converted slots for Sv 39 is because of the 3 deregistering Striders?
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:I suppose your guess of 3 SD-to-DD converted slots for Sv 39 is because of the 3 deregistering Striders?
Good...if this is the case the Striders can go off early...
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:I suppose your guess of 3 SD-to-DD converted slots for Sv 39 is because of the 3 deregistering Striders?
He guess only.
On a side note it seem like smrt are already using the temp interchange for over night parking? So many buses park inside on cny day 1 afternoon
I think by end 2016,Most YIBP Svc will temporary park at Seleter Depot too just like Bulim now..
Originally posted by Gus.chong:Good...if this is the case the Striders can go off early...
From their current conditions, I think they might not go off early. But maybe kicked out to SP once the DDs come and then just run them as SPs till lifespan expiry. If you see 2618G now you'll get what I mean.
Good mah,If not some ppl complain old bus la,Like that also wanna increase fare la.
Originally posted by carbikebus:Good mah,If not some ppl complain old bus la,Like that also wanna increase fare la.
Are you supporting my statement or SBS9631X's statement?
I hope for 854 it will be SD--> DD and not Bendy--> DD. But I predict it would be only 3-4DDs. The 2 BSEP slots will most probably be transfered to WLDEP and be converted by BSEP DDs. SMRT side I guess they might just convert 1 or 2 at most (Or maybe even none and BSEP adds one more DD slot).
854 needs high capacity buses but not in urgent need of DDs - the bendys are doing pretty fine because there is no express sector on this route and people dont go long haul anyway. Bendys are here to stay on this service for now because this service cant go 100% WLDEP due to the other end at Bedok But DDs on this service would see good usage of upper deck because this service plies SBST regions mostly.
For 857 no loss. I would rather more DDs be deployed on 857 from SMRT side than putting them on 854 because 857 has no perm bendy anywayand SMRT is unlikely to deploy any spare bendys (if there are) to this service too. Moreover the route of 857 is more unique than 854. For 854, Yishun to YCK Industrial area same as 857. YCK industrial area - Bowen Sec same as 70 and Bowen Sec to Bedok same as 25. The only unique sector would be between YCK residential areas and Eunos/Hougang industrial area and between Hougang residential areas and YCK industrial areas (people travelling these sectors are highly likely to patronise upper deck but still its not an urgent conversion.)
For 851, OC--> DD. This service also similar case to 854. Need more high capacity buses so no bendy-->DDs for now. But DDs will be used well because mostly plying in non-SMRT dominated territory and people travel mid haul for this service. Bendys are doing fine but since this service is WAB, it cant have too many O405Gs
After they deploy DD on service 851, 854 and 857, they can try deploy DDs on 855, 856 and 860. For 856, it can be good for DDs too, so give it a try.
855 need meh? I would be interested to see how DDs fair on 860, after the failure on 964. BSEP very stubborn uh, still insist to keep that DD on 964. Honestly, 860 is better suited for Bendys but since its under BSEP, no choice. But is the route suitable to DDs in terms of the turns it has to make?
For 856, its worth a try but IMO, no urgency unless its upgrading of BSEP SD slots. 856 has a majority bendy fleet now anyway, I would rather the DDs be used for SD--> DD conversions than Bendy--> DD conversions as far as the 201 ADLs are concerned. The O405G Habits are here to stay till atleast 2017 (given they are being refurbished) so when the time comes, SMRT can explore doing do Bendy--> DD conversion instead of a Bendy--> Bendy conversion for 856.
Originally posted by randomguy10:855 need meh? I would be interested to see how DDs fair on 860, after the failure on 964. BSEP very stubborn uh, still insist to keep that DD on 964. Honestly, 860 is better suited for Bendys but since its under BSEP, no choice. But is the route suitable to DDs in terms of the turns it has to make?
For 856, its worth a try but IMO, no urgency unless its upgrading of BSEP SD slots. 856 has a majority bendy fleet now anyway, I would rather the DDs be used for SD--> DD conversions than Bendy--> DD conversions as far as the 201 ADLs are concerned. The O405G Habits are here to stay till atleast 2017 (given they are being refurbished) so when the time comes, SMRT can explore doing do Bendy--> DD conversion instead of a Bendy--> Bendy conversion for 856.
Well, between not getting a fleet add or a bad, but usable fleet add, what will you choose? Even though most of us knows that the ADL is not a good choice, given the current situation, and the choices we have, I am sure, we can agree that it is better than NOT having a fleet add at all.