Originally posted by dupdup77:All, got news will announce next week. Stay tuned. Cheers.
Is it regarding the City Direct services?
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Is it regarding the City Direct services?
Hi mr busanalyser, no. It is for the services to punggol, sengkang, CCK and yishun. Hope not feeder services this time. Cheers.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr busanalyser, no. It is for the services to punggol, sengkang, CCK and yishun. Hope not feeder services this time. Cheers.
Ok so all 4 will be announced next week or some of them?
My guess is:
Sengkang will be feeder service to Sengkang West Way loop @ Jalan Kayu or Seletar mall.
Punggol should be trunk service (given that there is no need for feeder still as Matilda/Waterway East flats still time to come up). This could be trunk service to St. Michael's terminal complementing sv 50? It could either use CTE via YCK road or do YCK Road, AMK Ave 3... and go down to Whompoa.
CCK could be feeder service to Keat Hong area (but might be little early given that most flats along ave 1 will open only in 2016). I would propose feeder looping along ave 5 via Brickland road and back to CCK via Ave 3...and sv 300 to be modified to ply ave 4 and ave 2.
Yishun my guess would be trunk service as latest feeder introduced was 803 to take care of ave 6 and 860 is there to take care of BTOs along ring road. st 51 and ave 1 BTOs still time to come up. Could it be a trunk between Yishun and Punggol? That would make sense via Seletar, Yishun Ring road... fast connectivity to Seletar airport area + good connectivity for Punggol/Yishun residents to NSL/NEL respectively.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Ok so all 4 will be announced next week or some of them?
My guess is:
Sengkang will be feeder service to Sengkang West Way loop @ Jalan Kayu or Seletar mall.
Punggol should be trunk service (given that there is no need for feeder still as Matilda/Waterway East flats still time to come up). This could be trunk service to St. Michael's terminal complementing sv 50? It could either use CTE via YCK road or do YCK Road, AMK Ave 3... and go down to Whompoa.
CCK could be feeder service to Keat Hong area (but might be little early given that most flats along ave 1 will open only in 2016). I would propose feeder looping along ave 5 via Brickland road and back to CCK via Ave 3...and sv 300 to be modified to ply ave 4 and ave 2.
Yishun my guess would be trunk service as latest feeder introduced was 803 to take care of ave 6 and 860 is there to take care of BTOs along ring road. st 51 and ave 1 BTOs still time to come up. Could it be a trunk between Yishun and Punggol? That would make sense via Seletar, Yishun Ring road... fast connectivity to Seletar airport area + good connectivity for Punggol/Yishun residents to NSL/NEL respectively.
Hi mr busanalyser, my source says partial only. Hope your 4 services come true. Hope LTA give some refreshing routes this time! Cheers!
My guess:Sengkang to Serangoon North(Loop)
Punggol:To Pasir Ris
CCK:A short trunk via 307 routes looping at Bt Batok
Yishun:Sorry to say its feeder again complementing 806 routes..Hahaha
Suggestion for Punggol service:
sv 150
Punggol Interchange -- Punggol Central -- Punggol Road -- Punggol Field -- Punggol Way (exp) -- Sengkang East road -- Sengkang East Way -- Sengkang West Way -- Seletar Mall -- Sengkang West Ave -- Sengkang West Road -- YCK Road -- CTE (express) -- AMK Ave 5 (ITE) -- AMK Ave 10 -- AMK Ave 3 -- AMK Ave 1 -- Bishan Road -- Bishan St 11 (only one way, opposite way on Bishan road) -- Bradell Road -- CTE (express) -- Balestier Road -- Jalan Rajah -- Whompoa Road -- Jalan Bahagia -- St. Michael's Terminal
Advantage:
1. New trunk service for Punggol west residents (newly developed town) to connect to Sengkang Sports Complex, Seletar Mall, Greenwich, AMK and Bishan areas
2. New trunk service along newly devloped town of Sengkang west along Sengkang west way to AMK/Bishan towns
3. Connects AMK / Bishan / Whompoa using express sectors of CTE
4. Provides CCL (Bishan) connection to ave 10, ave 3 residents that do not have direct connection today
5. Provide door-step MRT access to st 11 residents at Bishan along blk 156, faster access to Bradell bus park
6. Covers Balestier/Whompoa area connecting quickly to AMK and Bishan towns using CTE
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Ok so all 4 will be announced next week or some of them?
My guess is:
Sengkang will be feeder service to Sengkang West Way loop @ Jalan Kayu or Seletar mall.
Punggol should be trunk service (given that there is no need for feeder still as Matilda/Waterway East flats still time to come up). This could be trunk service to St. Michael's terminal complementing sv 50? It could either use CTE via YCK road or do YCK Road, AMK Ave 3... and go down to Whompoa.
CCK could be feeder service to Keat Hong area (but might be little early given that most flats along ave 1 will open only in 2016). I would propose feeder looping along ave 5 via Brickland road and back to CCK via Ave 3...and sv 300 to be modified to ply ave 4 and ave 2.
Yishun my guess would be trunk service as latest feeder introduced was 803 to take care of ave 6 and 860 is there to take care of BTOs along ring road. st 51 and ave 1 BTOs still time to come up. Could it be a trunk between Yishun and Punggol? That would make sense via Seletar, Yishun Ring road... fast connectivity to Seletar airport area + good connectivity for Punggol/Yishun residents to NSL/NEL respectively.
But judging by the number of BSEP buses registered this month, only 5 citaros from SBST side and 5 enviros from SMRT side. Most probably at most only 1 svc will be introduced this month and it would also be a very short trunk / feeder svc.
Originally posted by SMB1333T:But judging by the number of BSEP buses registered this month, only 5 citaros from SBST side and 5 enviros from SMRT side. Most probably at most only 1 svc will be introduced this month and it would also be a very short trunk / feeder svc.
HGDEP still has quite a number of spare BSEP Citaros... so can utilise current resources+new resources.
I do hope to see services other than feeders, though Punggol requires good frequency feeder services for Punggol West side.
Originally posted by SMB1333T:But judging by the number of BSEP buses registered this month, only 5 citaros from SBST side and 5 enviros from SMRT side. Most probably at most only 1 svc will be introduced this month and it would also be a very short trunk / feeder svc.
Dont forget that the previous Citaro convert DD slots..and also they can register the Citaro anytime.
Originally posted by SMB1333T:But judging by the number of BSEP buses registered this month, only 5 citaros from SBST side and 5 enviros from SMRT side. Most probably at most only 1 svc will be introduced this month and it would also be a very short trunk / feeder svc.
My view is that right now there is no immediate need for any feeder except for Sengkang West Way. I suspect sv 373 to be launched to ply Sengkang West Way as the BTO flats there are ready and others soon to open. There is no LRT on this road.
Within 1st half of 2015 there should be both a feeder and trunk service introduced along Sengkang West Way (in addition to existing sv 85). There will be one service that will turn left to Seletar Mall.
Originally posted by TIB1112L:HGDEP still has quite a number of spare BSEP Citaros... so can utilise current resources+new resources.
I do hope to see services other than feeders, though Punggol requires good frequency feeder services for Punggol West side.
Not just Citaros... there are quite a few SP BSEP DDs also especially with SLBP and BNDEP.
With Punggol west you mean along Punggol Central? The reason there is no feeder is because you have sv 3, 83, 85 plying the full length and half of it with sv 136 and 386 as well.
The new trunk service for Punggol should exit via Punggol way. Before doing so it can go via Punggol Central -- Edgedale -- Punggol Field or Punggol Central -- Punggol Road -- Punggol Field. This way more of Punggol will get access to the trunk service.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Not just Citaros... there are quite a few SP BSEP DDs also especially with SLBP and BNDEP.
With Punggol west you mean along Punggol Central? The reason there is no feeder is because you have sv 3, 83, 85 plying the full length and half of it with sv 136 and 386 as well.
As in Sumang side lol
Punggol Central and Road is well connected by 84, which acts as a feeder too
Originally posted by carbikebus:Dont forget that the previous Citaro convert DD slots..and also they can register the Citaro anytime.
all the bsep buses for this month are alr registered... 5 taros so cfm will nt hv anymore unless its next month
if there is SD-DD conversion, there will be wrights registered this month as well but there isnt..
about the high number of SP citaros and wrights, i do not think they are really SP (at least for most), but it seems SP as no one tracks down every month which services gets BSEP add, hence they are taken to be SP when they alr have a perm svc
my guess :
Tampines - Sengkang Int Sv 118
Hougang Central - Buangkok Crescent (Loop) Sv 323
Bukit Batok Int - Bukit Batok Terra (Loop) Sv 942?
Geylang Lor 1 - Circuit Road/Pipit Rd (Loop) Sv 144?
Originally posted by SMB1333T:all the bsep buses for this month are alr registered... 5 taros so cfm will nt hv anymore unless its next month
if there is SD-DD conversion, there will be wrights registered this month as well but there isnt..
about the high number of SP citaros and wrights, i do not think they are really SP (at least for most), but it seems SP as no one tracks down every month which services gets BSEP add, hence they are taken to be SP when they alr have a perm svc
The Wright conversion also come from previous undeploy buses
Originally posted by SBS5010P:my guess :
Tampines - Sengkang Int Sv 118
Hougang Central - Buangkok Crescent (Loop) Sv 323
Bukit Batok Int - Bukit Batok Terra (Loop) Sv 942?
Geylang Lor 1 - Circuit Road/Pipit Rd (Loop) Sv 144?
Hi mr sbs5010P, sad to say, Hougang, bukit batok and geylang will not have new services in the next few months. Bukit batok and geylang just got their over the last few months. Cheers.
Originally posted by TIB1112L:As in Sumang side lol
Punggol Central and Road is well connected by 84, which acts as a feeder too
Hi mr TIB1112L, I think they will not give to sumang side so fast. Because they are still within walking distance from the Punggol West LRT. As for Punggol central towards the west side, sbs 43/sbs 43M has been ordered to stop at an additional bus stop opp Blk 264A since dec 2014. This should relieve a huge portion of the transport worries for residents within 1 stop from Punggol mrt.
There is a pair of new bus stops being erected at Punggol place outside Punggol bus interchange. I think the new service will use them this time round. Let's wait a while and see correct or not! Cheers.
Originally posted by TIB1112L:As in Sumang side lol
Punggol Central and Road is well connected by 84, which acts as a feeder too
The blocks there are just opening up and have LRT connection. Only Waterway at Nibong will start operation in 2015... most others are 2016 onwards for possession.
If its a feeder for Nibong, will be useless...
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr sbs5010P, sad to say, Hougang, bukit batok and geylang will not have new services in the next few months. Bukit batok and geylang just got their over the last few months. Cheers.
I was going to say the same thing. I highly doubt it.
If Bukit Batok gets something, it needs to be a trunk passing through Bukit Gambok, Keat Hong and CCK but this won't be before 2016 when Keat Hong opens for occupation.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr TIB1112L, I think they will not give to sumang side so fast. Because they are still within walking distance from the Punggol West LRT. As for Punggol central towards the west side, sbs 43/sbs 43M has been ordered to stop at an additional bus stop opp Blk 264A since dec 2014. This should relieve a huge portion of the transport worries for residents within 1 stop from Punggol mrt.
There is a pair of new bus stops being erected at Punggol place outside Punggol bus interchange. I think the new service will use them this time round. Let's wait a while and see correct or not! Cheers.
It seems like the new service will not terminate/initiate from Punggol interchange then as it will call at stop right outside interchange.
Originally posted by SBS5010P:my guess :
Tampines - Sengkang Int Sv 118
Hougang Central - Buangkok Crescent (Loop) Sv 323
Bukit Batok Int - Bukit Batok Terra (Loop) Sv 942?
Geylang Lor 1 - Circuit Road/Pipit Rd (Loop) Sv 144?
My guess for 2015 is:
1. Sengkang Interchange -- Sengkang West Way (loop)
2. Punggol - St. Michael's Terminal (trunk service via Sengkang West Way and using express sectors to Whompoa)
3. Bukit Panjang -- Hillview Dr (loop) via Petir, Chestnut Ave, Dairy Farm Rd (will connect to future Hillview MRT)
4. CCK Interchange -- CCK Ave 5 (loop) to complement sv 300... this would be sv 301 via CCK Ave 3, Brickland Rd, CCK Ave 5 (loop) while sv 300 to ply CCK Ave 4, CCK Ave 1, CCK Ave 2.
5. One more service for Bukit Panjang Ring Road but via Senja Road and BPJ Ring road instead of Segar and Fajar. This could be short trunk or service to Sembawang/Woodlands area.
LTA Announcement:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/four-new-bus-routes-for/1568520.html
4 new bus routes by March 2015 for CCK, Punggol and Queenstown. Click link for full details. Feeder frequency by 2017 within 08 minute interval during peak hours.
Queenstown was unexpected. My prediction for Queenstown service is a new feeder service (274?) from Bukit Merah int looping at Strathmore Ave/Dawson Road via Kay Siang Road running parallel to 32 as new BTO flats are coming up along Margaret Drive in Q1 this year.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:The blocks there are just opening up and have LRT connection. Only Waterway at Nibong will start operation in 2015... most others are 2016 onwards for possession.
If its a feeder for Nibong, will be useless...
Punggol - St. Michael's Terminal (trunk service via Sengkang West Way and using express sectors to Whompoa) can extend 163 will do and also 159