[BSEP] Bus interchange expansions for Tampines & Sengkang
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Originally posted by SBS7557R:
3 SDs. (6330 6331 6333)
I think one of them is only on weekends.
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Originally posted by Marvel68:
Yeah but Yishun already have so many feeders/Intratowns, perhaps can introduce an inter-town route like 861?
It is time for some trunk routes.. especially one for Yishun ring road... very much needed...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Ok good.
Sengkang - This will be service for Sengkang West along Sengkang West Way for sure. Expect feeder. Or short trunk looping @ Seletar Hills
Punggol - This will be feeder connecting Waterway district (east). What a waste if it is. 386 should be extended to do full Waterway complex to make it more effective. Punggol should get trunk via Waterway just like you have sv 50 covering Punggol Dr.
Yishun - I hope not another feeder but I am sure it will be. This time I think will be Khatib feeder though connecting Yishun ave 1, st 41, 51 to Khatib MRT... but will have to operate from Yishun as starting point.
CCK - Has to be 301 feeder to Keat Hong... hope it is short trunk that terminates at BPJ so that Keat Hong residents get access to both DTL and NSL.
Punggol needs more long haul services like to the CBD, encountered quite a number of Punggol residents complaining the lack of bus services to the city.
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Originally posted by Marvel68:
Punggol needs more long haul services like to the CBD, encountered quite a number of Punggol residents complaining the lack of bus services to the city.
Totally agree.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Ok good.
Sengkang - This will be service for Sengkang West along Sengkang West Way for sure. Expect feeder. Or short trunk looping @ Seletar Hills
Punggol - This will be feeder connecting Waterway district (east). What a waste if it is. 386 should be extended to do full Waterway complex to make it more effective. Punggol should get trunk via Waterway just like you have sv 50 covering Punggol Dr.
Yishun - I hope not another feeder but I am sure it will be. This time I think will be Khatib feeder though connecting Yishun ave 1, st 41, 51 to Khatib MRT... but will have to operate from Yishun as starting point.
CCK - Has to be 301 feeder to Keat Hong... hope it is short trunk that terminates at BPJ so that Keat Hong residents get access to both DTL and NSL.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I think one of them is only on weekends.
Nope. It's a wrong edit made in wiki. 3384 was never perm 50. (PM for further details)
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Originally posted by Marvel68:
Punggol needs more long haul services like to the CBD, encountered quite a number of Punggol residents complaining the lack of bus services to the city.
ha. i agree with u. but not LTA. -
Originally posted by SBS7557R:
Nope. It's a wrong edit made in wiki. 3384 was never perm 50. (PM for further details)
I wonder why ppl update sgwiki if they do not have confirmed information. First updated 3384 to be sv 58 perm, then changed it to sv 50 perm.
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Sgwiki?Duh...They observe for only a few days then edited perm..
167 Amdep for Weekends is 1AP / 1 TQ also nvr update
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I prefer newer Int/Ter based on how many bus svc,If u wanna tear down Yishun then please make something more bigger than the older ones and nvm if its underground..
However i support depot to have extension,SBST Amdep can have the SMRT ones as an extension and SMRT should have a new multi storey depot as well
There will be a Mandai Bus Depot within Thomson Line - Mandai Depot beside SLE, near Wlands Ave 12 Exit, as stated in Thomson Line's 8-Year Progress Blog:
http://thomson-line.blogspot.sg/2014/02/into-woodland.html?m=1
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SMRT ones should be along Yio Chu Kang forest area,A 3 storey with 550 buses.
Kranji replacement should be at Mandai and if SMRT wins the first tender they can jollywell utilise Budep
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If the Sengkang extension is permanent, then it's a serious admission on LTA's part that they have screwed up on the ITHs.
Worse, they are still sticking to the concept that every route must begin and end at an interchange.
If they do not rethink what they are doing, then the situation will see no improvement come 2016 or even 2020. The majority of bendy buses will remain at Woodlands and Bukit Panjang, only with a fresh coat of paint. Any new operator taking from either incumbent operator will face the same set of problems with no solution in sight.
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How bout starting from Depot finish at depot?Or some sort like 63 start at HDB rubbish ctr finish at Int?
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
There will be a Mandai Bus Depot within Thomson Line - Mandai Depot beside SLE, near Wlands Ave 12 Exit, as stated in Thomson Line's 8-Year Progress Blog:
http://thomson-line.blogspot.sg/2014/02/into-woodland.html?m=1
Mandai to SBW and YIS nearer and whatbout going to CCK and BPJ?Can someone answer??
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
How bout starting from Depot finish at depot?Or some sort like 63 start at HDB rubbish ctr finish at Int?
265,268,502 (they are loops though)
and yes, depot should act as interchanges as well. Their location is not really bad either, as they are mainly located in industrial estates, and these estates will appreciate the extra connectivity
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100,111 and 92 alight ppl at rubbish ctr also
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Mandai to SBW and YIS nearer and whatbout going to CCK and BPJ?Can someone answer??
I think if KJDEP have a share at Mandai, LTA's reason would be becos there are SLE, BKE & KJE to head straight to the interchanges... No need to get stuck in the JB-trucks jamming everytime along Wlands Rd/Kranji Rd... Alternate route to depot possibly would be via Mandai Rd where time is shorten from the custom jam...
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I have a strong feeling that Mandai is for Kranji replacement and also a back up for Woodlands Depot,Amdep should stay.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
If the Sengkang extension is permanent, then it's a serious admission on LTA's part that they have screwed up on the ITHs.
Worse, they are still sticking to the concept that every route must begin and end at an interchange.
If they do not rethink what they are doing, then the situation will see no improvement come 2016 or even 2020. The majority of bendy buses will remain at Woodlands and Bukit Panjang, only with a fresh coat of paint. Any new operator taking from either incumbent operator will face the same set of problems with no solution in sight.
I would propose using more services from depots... BNDEP has 48, AMDEP has a few services. I don't see why depots cannot accommodate starting/terminating point for services. Yes, I agree there is no need for every bus to start/terminate at interchange, really pressurizing the infrastructure today.
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LTA press release mentions of major new services coming to Sengkang, Punggol, Yishun and CCK.
Sengkang will have an interchange extension. so OKAY.
I have concerns about other 3.
How about Punggol. Does it have space? Maybe 1-2 services more? But you have Northshore, Matilda and Waterway complexes coming. Apart from feeders, existing trunks will not do the job.
Yishun - is the temp interchange going to be bigger? We have to take into account new BTOs coming along Yishun ave 1, bet ave 6 & ave 8 and along ring road. More services needed.
CCK - where is the space to accommodate Keat Hong services? From Q1 2016 you will have to launch feeders and trunks for Keat Hong.
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Can also start from end or industrial estate..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Can also start from end or industrial estate..
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I say instead of starting/ending at Int why not building a terminal near ind estate?
By the way rather than extend Tampines Int why not they build another one near Ave 9?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I say instead of starting/ending at Int why not building a terminal near ind estate?
By the way rather than extend Tampines Int why not they build another one near Ave 9?
I believe there are plans to build an interchange in Tampines North. The extension is to add more services to Tampines interchange. Given the space crunch, the extension is quite far off though.
I am interested to see how they manage this. If it were for me, I would shift few trunk services there, strictly no feeders.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
LTA press release mentions of major new services coming to Sengkang, Punggol, Yishun and CCK.
Sengkang will have an interchange extension. so OKAY.
I have concerns about other 3.
How about Punggol. Does it have space? Maybe 1-2 services more? But you have Northshore, Matilda and Waterway complexes coming. Apart from feeders, existing trunks will not do the job.
Yishun - is the temp interchange going to be bigger? We have to take into account new BTOs coming along Yishun ave 1, bet ave 6 & ave 8 and along ring road. More services needed.
CCK - where is the space to accommodate Keat Hong services? From Q1 2016 you will have to launch feeders and trunks for Keat Hong.
Agreed. CCK has NO MORE space for another service.