SBS Transit trials Volvo Volgren 12-metre single decker
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
Latest updates on the bus: Wheelchair-ramp has been removed, hence a gap can be seen below the rear door. A grabpole is also installed in place at the middle like on the front door. It is also wrapped in a full advert wrap (inclusive of the front) with an advert design similar to the Sunlong hybrids.
Also the bus is 11.4m long, not 12m.
Why remove wheelchair ramp?!
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Originally posted by mwhale7886:
Why remove wheelchair ramp?!
According to the statues it is not allowed for use as an WAB bus.
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
Latest updates on the bus: Wheelchair-ramp has been removed, hence a gap can be seen below the rear door. A grabpole is also installed in place at the middle like on the front door. It is also wrapped in a full advert wrap (inclusive of the front) with an advert design similar to the Sunlong hybrids.
Also the bus is 11.4m long, not 12m.
The wheelchair ramp was originally installed at the front while it was in Sydney, not at the rear: http://s638.photobucket.com/user/Busabout/media/_MG_2843.jpg.html
A PIW will not be able to pass through either door under SBS8002T's current configuration.
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
The wheelchair ramp was originally installed at the front while it was in Sydney, not at the rear: http://s638.photobucket.com/user/Busabout/media/_MG_2843.jpg.html
A PIW will not be able to pass through either door under SBS8002T's current configuration.
The ramp was shifted to the back when it first reached Singapore.
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on 506 today. backbus of another NWAB
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
On paper it look so underpowered for a 12m bus
Does it?
It has a Volvo D5F215 diesel engine, which produces 161 kW (215 PS) and 800 Nm, as well as an electric motor that produces 120 kW (160 PS) and 800 Nm. When bother motors are working together driving the rear axle, that's effectively up to 1600 Nm of torque combined, with at least 800 Nm from standstill (electric motors produce full torque on start). When you combine that with the 12-speed iShift gearbox with closely-stepped ratios, there's no reason to assume that the B5RH would be at all underpowered. -
Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Does it?
It has a Volvo D5F215 diesel engine, which produces 161 kW (215 PS) and 800 Nm, as well as an electric motor that produces 120 kW (160 PS) and 800 Nm. When bother motors are working together driving the rear axle, that's effectively up to 1600 Nm of torque combined, with at least 800 Nm from standstill (electric motors produce full torque on start). When you combine that with the 12-speed iShift gearbox with closely-stepped ratios, there's no reason to assume that the B5RH would be at all underpowered.I say on paper,But we shall see how it actually perform in tropical Singapore
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Does it?
It has a Volvo D5F215 diesel engine, which produces 161 kW (215 PS) and 800 Nm, as well as an electric motor that produces 120 kW (160 PS) and 800 Nm. When bother motors are working together driving the rear axle, that's effectively up to 1600 Nm of torque combined, with at least 800 Nm from standstill (electric motors produce full torque on start). When you combine that with the 12-speed iShift gearbox with closely-stepped ratios, there's no reason to assume that the B5RH would be at all underpowered.And not forgetting the lack of a conventional airconditioning compressor loading down the engine since this unit runs off a fully electric airconditioning unit with an electric compressor.
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What bout the 60kmh restricted law?Still applied?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
What bout the 60kmh restricted law?Still applied?
Yes
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Originally posted by SBS9C:
According to the statues it is not allowed for use as an WAB bus.
Correct me if my memory fails me, but why are almost all the routes specified for this bus to ply seem identical to those done by the Sunlongs last time..?
Are they trying to do a comparison of the data on identical routes to see whether China vs European hybrid which is better? -
Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Correct me if my memory fails me, but why are almost all the routes specified for this bus to ply seem identical to those done by the Sunlongs last time..?
Are they trying to do a comparison of the data on identical routes to see whether China vs European hybrid which is better?SBS8030L, SBS8033D, the Sunlong hybrids (SBS8000Z and SBS8001X) and this bus (SBS8002T) are/were under Soon Lee Bus Park (SLBP)... Seems likes it is the depot for the new demonstator buses (except the Volvo B9TL Wrights).
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
I say on paper,But we shall see how it actually perform in tropical Singapore
How does 1600 Nm of combined torque looks bad on paper for an 11.4 m bus?
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SBS8002T first day of svc brokedown at 3pm+ at Bedok opp blk 761 bus stop due to aircon problem.
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
How does 1600 Nm of combined torque looks bad on paper for an 11.4 m bus?
You mean both electric and engine run at the same time??Let us see if its reliable as its diesel counterpart..
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
SBS8030L, SBS8033D, the Sunlong hybrids (SBS8000Z and SBS8001X) and this bus (SBS8002T) are/were under Soon Lee Bus Park (SLBP)... Seems likes it is the depot for the new demonstator buses (except the Volvo B9TL Wrights).
It's not so much about the depot but the routes. This bus serves almost identical routes to the Sunlongs last time..which IMO, might be their way of comparing the hybrid capabilities of the Volvo system vs the Sunlong system.
And anyway, I think you forgot 7888K. That's a Scania demo that's not under SLBP. Haha.
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Video recording: http://youtu.be/SMWKfbJh_yU
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
You mean both electric and engine run at the same time??Let us see if its reliable as its diesel counterpart..
Yes, so before you come to a conclusion, please do your research.
If reliability of the Volvo parallel hybrid system was of any concern, Volvo wouldn't offer it as its sole flagship city bus offering in Europe.
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To provide some context, the bus was sent to do what is equivalent of Transperth's route 920, with a full loading of passengers throughout the journey (filled up to the red no standing zone) during the peak of summer.
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Anyone know the schedule for this bus on svc 506??
Thanks
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Yes, so before you come to a conclusion, please do your research.
If reliability of the Volvo parallel hybrid system was of any concern, Volvo wouldn't offer it as its sole flagship city bus offering in Europe.
Look here brother,Im not good in technical aspects as far as i am concern but thats in Europe,Singapore climate is a different thingy..I knew i cant provide you any technical proof but why in the past all Hybrid buses trialled for both SBST and SMRT and thats what concern me more..We dont really care if its 2000nm total or what,From Singapore business mindset,If the vehicle is reliable,Trouble free maintenance and save cost(As in bulk orders) everything goes.By the way forum is free for all,We are not bonded by any technical rules or regulation here,Everyone learning.
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Originally posted by billlmf:
Anyone know the schedule for this bus on svc 506??
Thanks
based on my observation today
it departs jurong east int to upp east coast at 1608hrs (SBST website on timetable)
btw 506 ett will change wef 9 march
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One word: Awesome! Really awesome ride...
- Bus is really very quiet when cruising on expressways
- Volvo I-Shift12 gearbox
- Prominent gearchange from 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > ..... > 12 only when there is really slow traffic like jams then you can hear it, at that slow speed till smooth traffic
- Cold Spheros aircon, same brand as SMB388S
- Volgren specs are much improved now as compared to our O405s/O405Gs/CNGs
- Fast acceleration & very steady weight balance
- Engine sounded like Toyota Crown or some Toyota vehicles
- Australia-style Bus Stopping chime
- Very comfortable bench-seats- Only downside is the cranking noise underneathe the rear when switching gear, in selection to the Electric/Diesel system, that sounded like changing manual gear
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That's because the I-Shift is a 12-speed automated manual gearbox. It has 3 forward gears with high and low ranges and a splitter (3 x 2 x 2 = 12).
