Capacity Upgrade/Downgrade Reporting on Bus Services
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
'morning bro/sis 1333T
851 did have a period without bendies.
On the day of CCK handover from SBST to TIBS:
850X 851T 852R 875A 879P - WLDEP 851 > WLDEP 960
On that same day 960 was transferred from KJDEP to WLDEP. All 960 KJDEP bendies (869T. 872H etc) went to 190.
In this period the ex 851 bendies were replaced by random rigids (of all types - O405, Scania 113, UD etc)
Only during the weekends that 856 bendies (856E, 859Y, 860S, 861P, 862L etc) did 851 in that period.
It was after the last of Mark II bendies were registered that 851 got 3 of them perm:
997G 999B 1000B > WLDEP 851
These 3 were quickly replaced by 3 Habits (of course after 190 and 960 got all the new Habits first):
1042E 1045Y 1046U > WLDEP 851
1045Y were then replaced by 1001Z.
In this period WLDEP was spamming 851 with Scanias. There were not enough O405's to go around and the CAC's were still NAC's.
849B (perm WLDEP 960) did one trip during late morning post-peak on 851 (9am'ish) after doing 856.
851 was then transferred back to AMDEP, with 859 going the other way to WLDEP. As a result 851 got the 2 859 bendies in exchange for the 3 in WLDEP:
1054X 1057M > AMDEP 851
As the Habit registrations picked up speed that 851 got the 8 or so batch preceding the current one:
1023K 1057M 1081S 1112L 1113J 1114G 1120M 1201M 1137R 1138M
1120M and 1137R then left for AMDEP 106 with no replacement. 1201M also left, replaced by 1147L.
1114G then went to 800, replaced by 976S from 812.
In this period 1096A, 1097Y, 1098U, 1099S 1198P and 1199L cameo'ed on 851 often. 1097Y then went to KJDEP 106. These guys were not perm 851 as they did 61/67/854 more than 851.
In this period AMDEP was spamming 851 with very frequent and regular Lance cameo's. 1002X, 1017D and 1018B were perm, with the Volgren ones coming from 853. Whenever a bendy is sucked away to 61/67, it is usually replaced by a Lance or CAC cameo.
By now all the AMDEP Scania's (including ELBO CAC's) had gone to WLDEP (secondary bus types: KJDEP - DAF, WLDEP - Scania, AMDEP - Lance). UD's were running between all 3 depots.
Quite recently when 1023K, 1057M and 1081S left then 1096A and 1099S replaced them on a perm basis.
976S then left 851 for good half a year ago or so. Only a few weeks ago did 8009J come in.
Yes bro,Youre right!
I ever drive the Lance Volgren on svc 851 too.851 badly need DDs given their routes..
No need too many just about 7 for a start replacing those bendy buses.5 for A/P and 2 for S/S
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Yes bro,Youre right!
I ever drive the Lance Volgren on svc 851 too.851 badly need DDs given their routes..
No need too many just about 7 for a start replacing those bendy buses.5 for A/P and 2 for S/S
Hmm you might remember the pair of Malay drivers driving 851T/999B/1042E/1081S too - the lady driver's name on the name plate was "AS H". The guy was called Saifuddin or something like that. As well as the long white hair chinese uncle wearing a cap on 852R/1001Z. Think they have retired by now.
Yes I agree that 851 need more HCap buses... not only DD to replace the 7 bendies but additional ones as well. Can cut some SD duties.
Best if 851 hand over to SBST lah. The way SMRT runs 851 half heartedly sharing its bendies with 856 and also using 851 as a feeder service for 61/67 bendy cameos is totally insincere. SBST will just run it simply as a proper basic trunk service as it should be.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
Hmm you might remember the pair of Malay drivers driving 851T/999B/1042E/1081S too - the lady driver's name on the name plate was "AS H". The guy was called Saifuddin or something like that. As well as the long white hair chinese uncle wearing a cap on 852R/1001Z. Think they have retired by now.
Yes I agree that 851 need more HCap buses... not only DD to replace the 7 bendies but additional ones as well. Can cut some SD duties.
Best if 851 hand over to SBST lah. The way SMRT runs 851 half heartedly sharing its bendies with 856 and also using 851 as a feeder service for 61/67 bendy cameos is totally insincere. SBST will just run it simply as a proper basic trunk service as it should be.
Yeah,How time flies...No Woodlands and Yishun let SMRT run..Later part Marina also let them run,Just give up CCK/BPJ
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
SMB3583A replace SMB3573D
Ok bro. Either MP Liang Eng Wah farting or LTA smoke the MP with 24 buses
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Originally posted by phillipC:
Ok bro. Either MP Liang Eng Wah farting or LTA smoke the MP with 24 buses
Yes bro youre correct,Just like 85 case,4 DDs in 5 SDs out..Another possibilities SMRT did trial with 24 buses but end up bunching and low loadings problems which is a wasteful resource for them..The extra 4-5 DDs can be deployed to other svc instead.
Svc that need more DDs will be:67,106,169,176,187,190,700,856,960,961,963 and 969 for now..Deploy 2-3 units each will be more practical.
Svc awaiting for DDs(With at least 3 units)
Svc 167,172,180,184,851,854,855 for now.
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Originally posted by AntiDennisLance:
'morning bro/sis 1333T
851 did have a period without bendies.
On the day of CCK handover from SBST to TIBS:
850X 851T 852R 875A 879P - WLDEP 851 > WLDEP 960
On that same day 960 was transferred from KJDEP to WLDEP. All 960 KJDEP bendies (869T. 872H etc) went to 190.
In this period the ex 851 bendies were replaced by random rigids (of all types - O405, Scania 113, UD etc)
Only during the weekends that 856 bendies (856E, 859Y, 860S, 861P, 862L etc) did 851 in that period.
It was after the last of Mark II bendies were registered that 851 got 3 of them perm:
997G 999B 1000B > WLDEP 851
These 3 were quickly replaced by 3 Habits (of course after 190 and 960 got all the new Habits first):
1042E 1045Y 1046U > WLDEP 851
1045Y were then replaced by 1001Z.
In this period WLDEP was spamming 851 with Scanias. There were not enough O405's to go around and the CAC's were still NAC's.
849B (perm WLDEP 960) did one trip during late morning post-peak on 851 (9am'ish) after doing 856.
851 was then transferred back to AMDEP, with 859 going the other way to WLDEP. As a result 851 got the 2 859 bendies in exchange for the 3 in WLDEP:
1054X 1057M > AMDEP 851
As the Habit registrations picked up speed that 851 got the 8 or so batch preceding the current one:
1023K 1057M 1081S 1112L 1113J 1114G 1120M 1201M 1137R 1138M
1120M and 1137R then left for AMDEP 106 with no replacement. 1201M also left, replaced by 1147L.
1114G then went to 800, replaced by 976S from 812.
In this period 1096A, 1097Y, 1098U, 1099S 1198P and 1199L cameo'ed on 851 often. 1097Y then went to KJDEP 106. These guys were not perm 851 as they did 61/67/854 more than 851.
In this period AMDEP was spamming 851 with very frequent and regular Lance cameo's. 1002X, 1017D and 1018B were perm, with the Volgren ones coming from 853. Whenever a bendy is sucked away to 61/67, it is usually replaced by a Lance or CAC cameo.
By now all the AMDEP Scania's (including ELBO CAC's) had gone to WLDEP (secondary bus types: KJDEP - DAF, WLDEP - Scania, AMDEP - Lance). UD's were running between all 3 depots.
Quite recently when 1023K, 1057M and 1081S left then 1096A and 1099S replaced them on a perm basis.
976S then left 851 for good half a year ago or so. Only a few weeks ago did 8009J come in.
hmm ok...
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8009J doing 812 this morning..I might think those A24s deploy on trunk svc isnt a long term perm..Even 8001E doing 300/302 recently
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966 can reduce 2-3 A22s already since they had about 13-14 DDs now..No point bunching like mad even during off peak.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
8009J doing 812 this morning..I might think those A24s deploy on trunk svc isnt a long term perm..Even 8001E doing 300/302 recently
8012Z on 302 almost everyday last week... -
Originally posted by carbikebus:
8009J doing 812 this morning..I might think those A24s deploy on trunk svc isnt a long term perm..Even 8001E doing 300/302 recently
I have the thinking that those MAN Bendies deployed on the trunk svcs are for SMRT to test the loading compared to their DDs & existing Mercedes bendies on those same trunk svcs. hmm
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Originally posted by SMB42P:
8012Z on 302 almost everyday last week...8012Z might be perm on either 300/302.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
I have the thinking that those MAN Bendies deployed on the trunk svcs are for SMRT to test the loading compared to their DDs & existing Mercedes bendies on those same trunk svcs. hmm
Yeah,It was never meant to perm on trunk svc,From what ive known the perm O405G will temporary swap with the A24 to test the loadings..388S is the one which went back to spare after a month stint with 176.Those 2 on service 851 & 854 wont be long either.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Yeah,It was never meant to perm on trunk svc,From what ive known the perm O405G will temporary swap with the A24 to test the loadings..388S is the one which went back to spare after a month stint with 176.Those 2 on service 851 & 854 wont be long either.
I think for those in KJDEP, this "trial" arrangement works better. Since they can deploy the MAN Bendies on svcs with existing Merc Bendies & at the same time also have Enviros as perm (eg Sv 106 & 190 with both MB Bendies & Enviros) to compare.
For AMDEP wise, unless they want to put DDs soon on 851 and 854, the only comparison they can do is compare against those existing MB bendies. Doesn't really do much.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why AMDEP has been deploying 1218R on 857 & another random Bendy on 857 also recently in the past month. Possibly to cross-check the loadings against those WL-based Enviros on 857..hmm.
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
I think for those in KJDEP, this "trial" arrangement works better. Since they can deploy the MAN Bendies on svcs with existing Merc Bendies & at the same time also have Enviros as perm (eg Sv 106 & 190 with both MB Bendies & Enviros) to compare.
For AMDEP wise, unless they want to put DDs soon on 851 and 854, the only comparison they can do is compare against those existing MB bendies. Doesn't really do much.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why AMDEP has been deploying 1218R on 857 & another random Bendy on 857 also recently in the past month. Possibly to cross-check the loadings against those WL-based Enviros on 857..hmm.
Amdep no choice,Its not that they wanna test loadings but indeed they have no DDs so just deploy random bendy buses will do..At least their BC can earn the bendy bus allowances..
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Amdep no choice,Its not that they wanna test loadings but indeed they have no DDs so just deploy random bendy buses will do..At least their BC can earn the bendy bus allowances..
Oh, so the random Bendies from AMDEP on 857 are just to meet the demand during Peak Hours? I thought they were using it to compare against the loadings of the Enviros (although diff depots). Maybe I think too much.
But if they wanted to deploy Bendies for 857, they could have just done so long ago before the Enviros even appeared though..
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Oh, so the random Bendies from AMDEP on 857 are just to meet the demand during Peak Hours? I thought they were using it to compare against the loadings of the Enviros (although diff depots). Maybe I think too much.
But if they wanted to deploy Bendies for 857, they could have just done so long ago before the Enviros even appeared though..
Because that time Amdep didnt have enough bendy buses to play around,Ever since 804 Habits are out,They got at least 4-5 Habit bendy buses to play with thus you see 857 run with at least 2 during peak hours,Sometimes they will even cameo on svc 61,851,854,Feeders,969 frequently.
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sv 166 keeps having fluctuating fleet...
Last year 3 DD slots got downgraded to SD..
In month of June, 2 SD slots got upgraded to DD...
Funny leh... now operating with 21 DDs, 5 SDs compared to 19 DDs, 7 SDs in May.
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67 got dd still many rigid. think bendy change to dd. all rigid still there. so no upgrade.
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Originally posted by proudtobeme:
67 got dd still many rigid. think bendy change to dd. all rigid still there. so no upgrade.
That is why 67 got 41 buses..40% still SDs
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There you go... 985 finally gets DD... much awaited..
Suspect there to be 4 DDs... but 2 are confirmed...
3592Z, 3593X --> KJ 985
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sv 963 got 1 bendy slot downgraded to rigid... operating now with 12 DDs, 2 bendies and 14 rigids...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
sv 963 got 1 bendy slot downgraded to rigid... operating now with 12 DDs, 2 bendies and 14 rigids...
1073R slot was downgraded
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
sv 963 got 1 bendy slot downgraded to rigid... operating now with 12 DDs, 2 bendies and 14 rigids...
Supposely to be 4 SDs to 4 DDs
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How many DDs spotted on 985 today?
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Is it true that sv 65 is no longer full fleet DD?? One DD slot downgraded to Citaro... so even before DTL3, 65 has been downgraded :(