Capacity Upgrade/Downgrade Reporting on Bus Services
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr sbs6750E, smrt 965 frequency is nether good. Depends on which part of rivervale drive as sbs 85 also goes to rivervale drive.
For those staying in Punggol east and sengkang east, sbs 85 is equally fast. Transferring will be slower as 858, 965, 969 are usually crowded and you still need another bus service to get to TPE and walk across the super long dreaded bridge. By then, sbs 85 will have been on its way. Anyway sbs 85 has limited stops at sengkang east and Punggol east. In less than 8 min, it will have covered Punggol east (from Riveria LRT) and sengkang east (up to sengkang east road). Cheers.
Untrue.
First of all, 85 freq is worse than 965. Try waiting during PM peak, usually 2 965s will pass before you see an 85.
And no, those staying in Sengkang East do not think 85 is faster. Lemme tell u why.
After Sengkang East, 85 still has to do merry-go-round at Sengkang Ctrl. Then comes the Sengkang West. Since so many board there it takes time. Then comes Jalan Kayu, where jams frequently occur along the one-lane street. And now, you still have a new additonal traffic light at Seletar Aerospace Flyover.
86 -> 965, on the other hand, is much faster. Besides, they do not have to cross the bridge as they are in the same direction for 86 -> 965. Both hit the express after the stop! Go and take 965 and see the number of ppl who board 86 after alighting at the first stop off express. You will know when I mean Rivervale ppl like 965, I'm not lying to you.
And let me tell you what 965 has and 85 doesnt: DDs. Yes... 85 may have them now, but the freq is cut isnt it?! 965 not only has BSEP DDs, even the bus op itself has thrown in one. Definitely solves the crowding problem don't they?
Perhaps 85 is faster for Sengkang West residents, and perhaps Punggol East if the BC chiongs like 965 BCs do, but I disagree 85 is the first choice to go for everyone along the route.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Untrue.
First of all, 85 freq is worse than 965. Try waiting during PM peak, usually 2 965s will pass before you see an 85.
And no, those staying in Sengkang East do not think 85 is faster. Lemme tell u why.
After Sengkang East, 85 still has to do merry-go-round at Sengkang Ctrl. Then comes the Sengkang West. Since so many board there it takes time. Then comes Jalan Kayu, where jams frequently occur along the one-lane street. And now, you still have a new additonal traffic light at Seletar Aerospace Flyover.
86 -> 965, on the other hand, is much faster. Besides, they do not have to cross the bridge as they are in the same direction for 86 -> 965. Both hit the express after the stop! Go and take 965 and see the number of ppl who board 86 after alighting at the first stop off express. You will know when I mean Rivervale ppl like 965, I'm not lying to you.
And let me tell you what 965 has and 85 doesnt: DDs. Yes... 85 may have them now, but the freq is cut isnt it?! 965 not only has BSEP DDs, even the bus op itself has thrown in one. Definitely solves the crowding problem don't they?
Perhaps 85 is faster for Sengkang West residents, and perhaps Punggol East if the BC chiongs like 965 BCs do, but I disagree 85 is the first choice to go for everyone along the route.
Hi mr SMB128B, your 4th paragraph is certainly not accurate. There are limited stops around sengkang east portion before it arrives at sengkang east rd (near central). I have friends staying there who have bus stops nearby them. They prefer sbs 85 direct to yishun rather than take sbs 86 transfer to smrt 965. Sbs 86 frequency is nether good as well. They don't like to wait for sbs 86 then wait again for smrt 965. Haha. Wait 2 times???
Your 5th paragraph only applies to sbs 86 -> smrt 965. For the earlier conversation with the other guy, still need to use the overhead Bridge to connect to smrt 858/969.
Anyway, this sort of comparison is often up to each individual. There is no correct or wrong answer. For sengkang west and Punggol east people, sbs 85 can be faster and avoids inconvenience of transferring and waiting. For sengkang east people, depending on whether that person house is nearer to TPE or having sbs 85 at its doorstep or within 2 min walking distance, it is subjective. Hope that clears the doubt. Cheers. Thanks.
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Those staying in blks 201-204, 301-304, 320-325 can take 83/161 to Punggol Road then transfer to 965 mah. Dupdup, did you forget sv 39?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Very lame,190 should have 99% DDs by now yet still using bendy buses...
Unless they use those spare BSEP DDs? They spammed quite a lot of units..
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972 bus fleet increase to 24 buses?
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Originally posted by SMB315C:
972 bus fleet increase to 24 buses?
according to MP info sheet for resident
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Originally posted by TIB1112L:
according to MP info sheet for resident
Wow that's a lot..
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Those staying in blks 201-204, 301-304, 320-325 can take 83/161 to Punggol Road then transfer to 965 mah.
Dupdup, did you forget sv 39?Hi mr sbs6750E, seriously for Blk 201-204 and 320-325, they can walk to the nearest bus stop for sbs 85 which is just few mins away. No need to transfer at all. After the bus stop at sengkang east rd, the journey to khatib/yishun is quite fast. Why still need to take bus to Punggol rd to transfer to smrt 965???
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Originally posted by SMB315C:
972 bus fleet increase to 24 buses?
Kids nowadays like to meddle with sgwiki info..I thought after the enhancement only 1-2 DDs are added only?Yesterday i spotted only 16 buses for 972 incl peak hours
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Originally posted by TIB1112L:
according to MP info sheet for resident
may be correct, they introduced a number of 972A in the morning
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I don't think there is 9 additional buses given to 972! This bus service don't need so many double deckers! Don't anyhow put your facts in sgwiki!
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I expected 3 BSEP DDs to be added after the Senja route modification. Adding 9 buses is too much. Though the current fleet of all DDs to Orchard is getting very well utilized... See every bus having 70-80 pax.
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
Those staying in blks 201-204, 301-304, 320-325 can take 83/161 to Punggol Road then transfer to 965 mah.
Dupdup, did you forget sv 39?I have taken 85 before and it is a myth that Punggol and Sengkang east residents take it to Punggol (even if there are it will be lower unit digi. In my observation, there are distinct loading patterns for sv 85
Punggol MRT --> Punggol Central (some who stay over alight along Rivervale area)
Sengkang East --> Sengkang East Rd (many take as intra town and alight at Sengkang east road, Kopitiam, transfer to other services)
Sengkang East Rd --> Sengkang West / Jalan Kayu (since there is no feeder yet. 85 is the only option to Sengkang West BTOs currently)
There are few who head to Yishun...
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I have taken 85 before and it is a myth that Punggol and Sengkang east residents take it to Punggol (even if there are it will be lower unit digi. In my observation, there are distinct loading patterns for sv 85
Punggol MRT --> Punggol Central (some who stay over alight along Rivervale area)
Sengkang East --> Sengkang East Rd (many take as intra town and alight at Sengkang east road, Kopitiam, transfer to other services)
Sengkang East Rd --> Sengkang West / Jalan Kayu (since there is no feeder yet. 85 is the only option to Sengkang West BTOs currently)
There are few who head to Yishun...
Because 86 takes too long to get to jalan kayu, it travels one big round to sengkang west therefore ppl take either 85 or 50 to jalan kayu / fernvale from sengkang. Alternatively ppl board 103 from serangoon
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I have taken 85 before and it is a myth that Punggol and Sengkang east residents take it to Punggol (even if there are it will be lower unit digi. In my observation, there are distinct loading patterns for sv 85
Punggol MRT --> Punggol Central (some who stay over alight along Rivervale area)
Sengkang East --> Sengkang East Rd (many take as intra town and alight at Sengkang east road, Kopitiam, transfer to other services)
Sengkang East Rd --> Sengkang West / Jalan Kayu (since there is no feeder yet. 85 is the only option to Sengkang West BTOs currently)
There are few who head to Yishun...
Hi mr busanalyser, there is still one more pattern. Sengkang east rd (outside Blk 323B) -khatib mrt/yishun. There is a steady stream of people boarding Sbs 85 at this stop and Everytime SBS 85 crosses to SLE, the bus is seated with more than 20 people on its way to lentor and yishun bus interchange. I have taken many times for joyriding and saw many alight at yishun ave 2. Cheers. Thanks.
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confirm 9 buses added for 972 as 972A operates in morning like 190/A
972A>972>972A>972
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr busanalyser, there is still one more pattern. Sengkang east rd (outside Blk 323B) -khatib mrt/yishun. There is a steady stream of people boarding Sbs 85 at this stop and Everytime SBS 85 crosses to SLE, the bus is seated with more than 20 people on its way to lentor and yishun bus interchange. I have taken many times for joyriding and saw many alight at yishun ave 2. Cheers. Thanks.
The point being, many who head to Yishun are those from SK West.
And the least amount of ppl heading to Yishun are those from SK East.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I have taken 85 before and it is a myth that Punggol and Sengkang east residents take it to Punggol (even if there are it will be lower unit digi. In my observation, there are distinct loading patterns for sv 85
Punggol MRT --> Punggol Central (some who stay over alight along Rivervale area)
Sengkang East --> Sengkang East Rd (many take as intra town and alight at Sengkang east road, Kopitiam, transfer to other services)
Sengkang East Rd --> Sengkang West / Jalan Kayu (since there is no feeder yet. 85 is the only option to Sengkang West BTOs currently)
There are few who head to Yishun...
The moment Watertown opens ah...
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
The moment Watertown opens ah...
Hi mr smb128B, yes in November 2015. It is coming. With compass point shopping mall undergoing 1 yr renovation, sbs 83 load will temporarily drop at sengkang interchange but expect sharp increase in load at Punggol bus interchange. So coincidental that they plan for compass point renovation to coincide with waterway point mall opening next to Punggol mrt. Think they expect human traffic to fall at the decade old compass point. Cheers.
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With 50 serving Junction 8, Amk Hub, Ite Colledge Ctrl, Greenwich, Seletar Mall, Sengkang Sports Cplx, Riverside Pk, Compass Point, Punggol Waterway, Waterway Point, expect its loadings to increase further
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
With 50 serving Junction 8, Amk Hub, Ite Colledge Ctrl, Greenwich, Seletar Mall, Sengkang Sports Cplx, Riverside Pk, Compass Point, Punggol Waterway, Waterway Point, expect its loadings to increase further
Hi mr sbs6750E, sbs 50 also serves the bus stop behind rivervale mall (walk a bit) and also serves the bus stop at Riveria LRT (walk a bit left to Punggol plaza) (walk a bit right to the F & B at Punggol promenade riverside walk) and also stops at the bus stop along Punggol drive at oasis LRT (where there is another mall currently ongoing construction in Punggol and will be ready in yr 2017). Cheers.
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50 must have full fleet DDs and increase the no. of buses to 20.
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Originally posted by Sbs6750E:
50 must have full fleet DDs and increase the no. of buses to 20.
I can see that happening in Q3 once Punggol Dr & Sengkang west BTOs are operational in capacity. Also looking at recent 972 trend, will not be surprising one bit.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr sbs6750E, sbs 50 also serves the bus stop behind rivervale mall (walk a bit) and also serves the bus stop at Riveria LRT (walk a bit left to Punggol plaza) (walk a bit right to the F & B at Punggol promenade riverside walk) and also stops at the bus stop along Punggol drive at oasis LRT (where there is another mall currently ongoing construction in Punggol and will be ready in yr 2017). Cheers.
So true. sv 50 has an excellent point-to-point connectivity and bi-directional load. See full DDs from Sengkang to YCK road in PM... and again from AMK Ave 5 to Bishan... at least 50-60 pax remain on board after AMK MRT...