Capacity Upgrade/Downgrade Reporting on Bus Services
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Originally posted by SBS 9631X:
Can assure you that out of the 4 perm DDs on Sv 39, I can safely say there's at least 2 of them on full-day shifts. ie, off-peak there's still Wrights on Sv 39.
3920B is the 5th last bus from Yishun. 2308hrs PSR Town Park bus stop towards Tampines.
And if I didn't remember wrongly, I think 3913Y 3916P are both on A/P shifts for 03 Jun as well because I saw them at like mid-day.Idk who spotted 3919G at what time, or if 3920B replaced 3919G, but i definitely didn't see 3919G on 03 Jun (Wed). So it would be good if someone could verify if either 3920B or 3919G are still on Sv 39 or not in the coming days, thanks.
Don't know if it helps but I spotted 3919G today, arriving at Yishun Int at 7.27pm
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Congratulations. Finally 1 more Punggol service to have DDs. But why not sbs 3 whose demand is higher than sbs 85??? The only reason must be sbs 85 serves sengkang west and there are just few bus services for poor sengkang west. Cheers
Regarding svc 3, I think someone mentioned before that there are low-lying trees along Pasir Ris St 21. -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
This is shocking. Ppl do anything for election. 85 will be new case of 119 DDs.
Rather SBS deploy more DDs on 145.. introduce weekday DDs on 66 and launch route parallel to 27 for Sengkang-Tampines with DDs.
What nonsense they do sometimes... Please people politician do anything
85's demand is more substantial than 119's at least. But improving the frequency first could be the priority rather than having high cap buses.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
This is shocking. Ppl do anything for election. 85 will be new case of 119 DDs.
Rather SBS deploy more DDs on 145.. introduce weekday DDs on 66 and launch route parallel to 27 for Sengkang-Tampines with DDs.
What nonsense they do sometimes... Please people politician do anything
Hi mr busanalyser, don't think that is the act of politician. It is rather the acts of requests of many residents staying at sengkang west way. Pity those who stayed there. They only have a bus service Sbs 85 at their doorstep. Moreover the frequency of this service is very poor. 15 min 1 bus usually. Seriously sengkang west way needs more than sbs 85. LTA has been rather slow in giving them another new service, thus gives in to the residents request of a double decker sbs 85. I believe not many people in this forum go to sengkang west way. Try going there some day and see the number of flats undergoing construction and many flats are already ready.
Take note sbs 50, sbs 163 ply sengkang west ave. sbs 86, sbs 103 ply on exterior road of sengkang west (jalan Kayu). Only sbs 85 plies sengkang west way. Some other services goes by exterior (yio Chu Kang road). This sengkang west way area badly needs a few more bus services. Cheers. Thanks.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
172 has got capacity downgrade. Now on most days operates with only 2 bendies.
Not true..there are still 4 bendies on weekdays as usual...all on split shift though
172S102, 172S103, 172S104 and 172S105.
For now only 172S102 (1085G) and 172S103 (1030P) has perm bus.. the other 2 duties will have random bendies from 106 or 190...
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Originally posted by array88:
Regarding svc 3, I think someone mentioned before that there are low-lying trees along Pasir Ris St 21.Hi mr array88, it is finally time to trim the low-lying trees. Other areas have seen tree trunks and leaves being cleared. So why not here? The authorities need to look seriously into this and balance the needs of people for public transport for sbs 3. Cheers. Thanks.
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Originally posted by SMB42P:
Not true..there are still 4 bendies on weekdays as usual...all on split shift though
172S102, 172S103, 172S104 and 172S105.
For now only 172S102 (1085G) and 172S103 (1030P) has perm bus.. the other 2 duties will have random bendies from 106 or 190...
From what I know on most days only 2 bendies.
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Originally posted by dupdup77:
Hi mr busanalyser, don't think that is the act of politician. It is rather the acts of requests of many residents staying at sengkang west way. Pity those who stayed there. They only have a bus service Sbs 85 at their doorstep. Moreover the frequency of this service is very poor. 15 min 1 bus usually. Seriously sengkang west way needs more than sbs 85. LTA has been rather slow in giving them another new service, thus gives in to the residents request of a double decker sbs 85. I believe not many people in this forum go to sengkang west way. Try going there some day and see the number of flats undergoing construction and many flats are already ready.
Take note sbs 50, sbs 163 ply sengkang west ave. sbs 86, sbs 103 ply on exterior road of sengkang west (jalan Kayu). Only sbs 85 plies sengkang west way. Some other services goes by exterior (yio Chu Kang road). This sengkang west way area badly needs a few more bus services. Cheers. Thanks.
Yes your point is valid. I have been expecting a feeder or trunk service for Sengkang West Way for few months now and surprised to see it has not happened. sv 85 frequency is not great. If improve frequency, more people will want to take it than take LRT within Sengkang town.
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No 3 isnt about low lying trees but the narrow roads along Pasir Ris estates that hinder 3 axles DDs to ply there..
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yes your point is valid. I have been expecting a feeder or trunk service for Sengkang West Way for few months now and surprised to see it has not happened. sv 85 frequency is not great. If improve frequency, more people will want to take it than take LRT within Sengkang town.
that what sbst and lta want, more people taking LRT. if not no point building the system.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
that what sbst and lta want, more people taking LRT. if not no point building the system.
Hi mr wsy1234, even if there is LRT, still need a few more bus services to go to sengkang west. Currently, demand is very high. Cheers. Thanks.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
that what sbst and lta want, more people taking LRT. if not no point building the system.
Yes but for Sengkang West Way residents LRT is not nearby. It is like asking punggol Central residents to walk to Punggol Dr or Punggol Field to take LRT.
And even though LRT is at door-step, you still have 163/50 as options to take you to Sengkang MRT from Sengkang West/East Ave, so it is only fair that West/East way also get direct bus service to MRT.
It is surprising given that LTA did not think twice before launching a redundant short feeder like 324 that could have been managed with a 62B or something. And for Sengkang west Way which is very far, taking so long to introduce service.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Yes but for Sengkang West Way residents LRT is not nearby. It is like asking punggol Central residents to walk to Punggol Dr or Punggol Field to take LRT.
And even though LRT is at door-step, you still have 163/50 as options to take you to Sengkang MRT from Sengkang West/East Ave, so it is only fair that West/East way also get direct bus service to MRT.
It is surprising given that LTA did not think twice before launching a redundant short feeder like 324 that could have been managed with a 62B or something. And for Sengkang west Way which is very far, taking so long to introduce service.
sengkang new town is always about HDB poor planing. that is Mr Ma pet project. He made people to travel long distance and change bus just to get to buy grocery, see doctor and eat food. because he is former sbst company director. this why WP can easy won the election there.
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Originally posted by wsy1234:
sengkang new town is always about HDB poor planing. that is Mr Ma pet project. He made people to travel long distance and change bus just to get to buy grocery, see doctor and eat food. because he is former sbst company director. this why WP can easy won the election there.
Hi mr wsy1234, I don't agree. Why? As usual, those around sengkang MRT area (under PAP) have most facilities and amenities. Sengkang east is under WP currently. Way before then, it is under PAP and the concept of new towns is to have few catchment areas for people to congregate and mingle and do basic stuff. So they plan for rivervale mall and rivervale plaza as 2 important malls for people in Sengkang east to come. As it is new town, they think young people prefer malls to normal coffee shops and hawker centres such as those found in nature estates.
When they realize that young people also want basic amenities just nearby their houses, they change the concepts and implement in Sengkang west (under PAP currently). Every conceivable place where possible in Sengkang west, they try to have commercial areas, be it coffee shop or small minimart. For new btos, they are trying to have these shops as part of the btos. Previously, they do not do that in Sengkang east. Cheers. Thanks.
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Wkday H1 Sched
966: 14 AP / 11 S1 / 1 S2 >> 14 AP / 7 S1 / 1 S2 -
Originally posted by SMB315C:
Wkday H1 Sched
966: 14 AP / 11 S1 / 1 S2 >> 14 AP / 7 S1 / 1 S2Reducing of 4 split buses
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
From what I know on most days only 2 bendies.
Still 4 bendies when i spotted yesterday with the usual bendy drivers..and i have confirmed with BC too... -
Originally posted by array88:
Don't know if it helps but I spotted 3919G today, arriving at Yishun Int at 7.27pm
Yeaps, that helps though. I think 3920B is now back to BNDEP. I spotted it on Sv 2 a few days ago, so I think it's not in CGBP anymore. Same with 8348X which was kicked out of Sv 39. So I think 3919G is the one being perm 39 instead, not 3920B.
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Anyway, I observed that so far, out of the 4 perm Wrights on Sv 39, 3 of them (3914U 3916P 3919G) are on full-day A/P shifts. I see 3913Y more during Peak Hours only though. But that's for H1 schedule. Maybe they'll add more DDs after June Sch Hols ends.
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So how are the DDs faring on sv 39? Question to all those who kept asking for DDs on 39... any idea if they are provind their worth :)
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
So how are the DDs faring on sv 39? Question to all those who kept asking for DDs on 39... any idea if they are provind their worth :)
Too early to say,maybe after school holidays then can evaluate..So far ive joyride 3 DDs on diff timings and to be honest its just like a SD loadings with ocassionally 3/4 full..
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DDs are useful for svc 39 to clear the evening peak loading from Yishun>PSR.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
So how are the DDs faring on sv 39? Question to all those who kept asking for DDs on 39... any idea if they are provind their worth :)
Err, like what 'carbikebus' said, during Off-Peak, at most it's only 3/4 full.
But i've taken the Wrights on Sv 39 quite a few times during AM Peak already so far, and the seats are usually all taken up (both upper & lower decks), with also a few standees for now. But might have something to do with the H1 schedule & June sch hols.
We'll probably see more pax onboard the DDs after the Sch hols ends.
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Another point to add on is that, I observed too that on average the Wright indeed spends less time at each stop compared to the KUBs/Citaros to load the same amount of pax. Abit like "duh~" I know. But it does help the Sv 39 BCs to keep to their frequency better.
I've not seen any bunching during AM Peak yet so far, which is a good sign, especially when it's kinda common to see 2x KUBs bunching tgt last time.I do wish they do something to their Off-Peak frequency though. Not sure if it's related to the H1 schedule, but during Off Peak (especially mid-day & early afternoon), it's kinda normal to wait for 20-25mins nowadays for a Sv 39, even though the E-timetable says otherwise..