Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:What do you mean by outside of the timing?
Remember 882A only operates between 4.50 and 7.30pm.
Originally posted by carbikebus:I think total 4 including the SWT..Maybe 882 got an S additional bus.
SMB1340Y, SMB1341U and SMB3008U are the 3 permers on 882. 3008U does 882A between 4.50 and 7.30pm on weekdays, excluding public holidays.
one random bus on 859A will do 882, not perm.
Originally posted by SBS9C:From Straits Times Home B4 page. ComfortDelgro to install Mobileye on their buses and cabs as a trial.
SMRT buses style sia... Not say copy, but like SMRT style for their buses.
There will be an amendment to Services 106, 133, 400, 402 and 513 with effect from 28th September 2014...
From a map at Ang Mo Kio Interchange's passenger office, it seems to hint that the slip road linking Maxwell Road and Central Boulevard/Marina Boulevard will be removed, while a newly built slip road will be linked to MCE. Services 106, 133, 400 and 402, all of which currently using the slip road, will be amended to ply Robinson Road and Marina Boulevard.
Furthermore, Marina Street and Marina Station Road will probably be removed as well, and Services 400, 402 + Express 513 will be amended to ply the complete one-directional Central Boulevard towards Shenton Way.
Looks like there will be another route operating from New Bridge Road Terminal soon.
Only thing that I know is it will operate through chinatown.
BCs already started training on that route yesterday, of which all of them were holding a piece of the route map. Too bad i couldnt see the details
Originally posted by Djmeowmeow:Looks like there will be another route operating from New Bridge Road Terminal soon.
Only thing that I know is it will operate through chinatown.
BCs already started training on that route yesterday, of which all of them were holding a piece of the route map. Too bad i couldnt see the details
Where did you see the training bus(es)? I suspect this could just be for the road diversion due to mid autumn festival celebrations this coming Saturday (6 Sep)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/chinatown_lantern_walk_2014.pdf
Originally posted by Djmeowmeow:Looks like there will be another route operating from New Bridge Road Terminal soon.
Only thing that I know is it will operate through chinatown.
BCs already started training on that route yesterday, of which all of them were holding a piece of the route map. Too bad i couldnt see the details
Could be NEL shuttle route familiarazation...
Bus services to skip bus stops due to TRI-Factor Triathlon 2014
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2014-09-01-01.aspx (introduction)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/bus_skip_tri-factor_triathlon_2014.pdf (poster)
New and Enhanced Bus Services from 14 September 2014 (Services 324 & 139M)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2014-09-01-02.aspx (introduction)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/svc_324.pdf (Service 324's poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/svc_139m.pdf (Service 139M's poster)
Bus Services Affected By Road Closures For 2014 Formula One Singapore Grand Prix
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2014-09-03-01.aspx (introduction)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/basic_bus_service_2014.pdf (Basic Bus Services' poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/premium_bus_service_2014.pdf (Premium Bus Services' poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/nite_owl_service_2014.pdf (Nite Owl Services' poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/service_195_2014.pdf (Service 195's poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/service_97e_2014.pdf (Fast Forward 97e's poster)
There will be a new short working trip service 302A introduced on 15th September 2014, operating from Yew Tee MRT Station and looping at Choa Chu Kang Crescent...posters up at bus stops along the route.
Bus Stops Skipped Due To Sporting Events This Sunday
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2014-09-09-01.aspx (introduction)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/posb_passion_run_for_kids_2014.pdf (1st poster)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/yellow_ribbon_run_2014.pdf (2nd poster)
New Short Trip 302A
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/singapore/smrt-rolls-out-new-short/1355450.html?cid=FBSG
Midnight Bus Services During 2014 F1 Singapore Grand Prix
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/press/2014-09-10-01.aspx (introduction)
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/download/midnight_bus_services_10sep.pdf (poster)
Originally posted by SMB195G:New Short Trip 302A
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/mobile/singapore/smrt-rolls-out-new-short/1355450.html?cid=FBSG
Happy to see this news. Finally, some enhancement for Yew Tee residents. I think 302A will have 1 dedicated bus (mostly will be rigid) running every 11-12 mins.
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:Happy to see this news. Finally, some enhancement for Yew Tee residents. I think 302A will have 1 dedicated bus (mostly will be rigid) running every 11-12 mins.
I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
The walking distance from yew tee mrt to the furthest stop is only 850m which is just 10-15mins walk. With DBTF more and more buses are being roped in to run services that makes people lazier.
Pretty certain that does not promote healthier lifestyle, and also increases traffic on the road. What is the PT system becoming?
I am all for service enhancement and new links between towns, but this is not it.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
The walking distance from yew tee mrt to the furthest stop is only 850m which is just 10-15mins walk. With DBTF more and more buses are being roped in to run services that makes people lazier.
Pretty certain that does not promote healthier lifestyle, and also increases traffic on the road. What is the PT system becoming?
I am all for service enhancement and new links between towns, but this is not it.
I agree about we becoming more lazy..
but if you see Yew Tee MRT stop in PM, there is a huge load of ppl waiting for 302 to come... even without 302A, there is huge demand for going to crescent.. hence, only makes sense to reduce their waiting time.. coz ppl still wait and don't walk.. those who walk.. can still continue to...
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
The walking distance from yew tee mrt to the furthest stop is only 850m which is just 10-15mins walk. With DBTF more and more buses are being roped in to run services that makes people lazier.
Pretty certain that does not promote healthier lifestyle, and also increases traffic on the road. What is the PT system becoming?
I am all for service enhancement and new links between towns, but this is not it.
Hi mr Bus Stopping, your way of thinking is not very correct. Did you see the timing that smrt 302A was implemented? It was to alleviate the crowds in the morning peak hours and evening peak hours for weekdays. They do this because people have been complaining of long crowds. They are not implementing a regular service all day long.
Let's face the facts. When people go to work in the morning, they are not going to exercise by walking more than 400 metres. Same goes for the evening when people are going home after a long day at work. Nobody will want to walk home all the way. This is definitely true for 90% of the working population. This is definitely nothing to do with laziness or such. Even if they do not implement this 302A, I dare say they will continue to take 302 instead of walking home.
When people want to exercise or be healthy, they will find other suitable time to do so. Most will not use this little transport time when going work or home! Cheers.
Additional bus stop for sv 63 and 63M along Ubi Ave 2.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
The walking distance from yew tee mrt to the furthest stop is only 850m which is just 10-15mins walk. With DBTF more and more buses are being roped in to run services that makes people lazier.
Pretty certain that does not promote healthier lifestyle, and also increases traffic on the road. What is the PT system becoming?
I am all for service enhancement and new links between towns, but this is not it.
Hmm but sometimes people doesn't want to end up in sweaty wet shirt to work right?
To all who replied, thank you for your input.
Come on la lets face it, I had to travel to yew tee to camp exactly during the transition from transfer fare (25c discount, 50c discount, to dbtf) between 2008 and 2010. I could see the loadings with my own eyes.
The surge in passengers taking 302 from yew tee after dbtf is clear. You can't see this now, but using the fares alone you could tell (from 50c for 2/3 stops to 25c and to finally now 0c to 5c) the demand.
Now by adding more trips with 302A, what they are doing is just inducing demand to get even more lazy people to not walk.
And please! How many of you have been paying adult fares before 2008? The amount of people taking buses for 2-3 stops from/to MRT now is so much more now. I am not saying that pax should not be given a choice to do so, but charging less than 5cents for this is nonsense. All this does is to create strains on bus services that is unsustainable in the long term, and then people start to compain that their buses are so full.
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr Bus Stopping, your way of thinking is not very correct. Did you see the timing that smrt 302A was implemented? It was to alleviate the crowds in the morning peak hours and evening peak hours for weekdays. They do this because people have been complaining of long crowds. They are not implementing a regular service all day long.
Let's face the facts. When people go to work in the morning, they are not going to exercise by walking more than 400 metres. Same goes for the evening when people are going home after a long day at work. Nobody will want to walk home all the way. This is definitely true for 90% of the working population. This is definitely nothing to do with laziness or such. Even if they do not implement this 302A, I dare say they will continue to take 302 instead of walking home.
When people want to exercise or be healthy, they will find other suitable time to do so. Most will not use this little transport time when going work or home! Cheers.
Special reply for you: No new housing have been built there in the past at lesat 5 years. No population increases, but still demand increases. Is that not lazy?
The fact is that Singaporeans have been walking to the MRT stations for a long time before distance fare have been implemented. That was true of the working population then before 2008 before transfer rebates was steeply increased and before distance fare have been implemented. In other words, by having 0c to 5c fare for 2-3 bus stops, we activated the laziness in people.
Everyone is lazy (myself included), but by having it so cheap to be lazy, everyone will choose to be lazy. Problem is, this is not sustainable in the long run. Please look at the recent new short trips from MRT/interchanges in this press release thread. How many of them are actually catering to passengers who travel for a very short distance.
If we continue to cater our main trunk routes to serve as feeder buses, and as well as implementing special short trips like 302A, then i'm afraid we better be prepared to look at a very steep increase in bus fares in the coming years.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:To all who replied, thank you for your input.
Come on la lets face it, I had to travel to yew tee to camp exactly during the transition from transfer fare (25c discount, 50c discount, to dbtf) between 2008 and 2010. I could see the loadings with my own eyes.
The surge in passengers taking 302 from yew tee after dbtf is clear. You can't see this now, but using the fares alone you could tell (from 50c for 2/3 stops to 25c and to finally now 0c to 5c) the demand.
Now by adding more trips with 302A, what they are doing is just inducing demand to get even more lazy people to not walk.
And please! How many of you have been paying adult fares before 2008? The amount of people taking buses for 2-3 stops from/to MRT now is so much more now. I am not saying that pax should not be given a choice to do so, but charging less than 5cents for this is nonsense. All this does is to create strains on bus services that is unsustainable in the long term, and then people start to compain that their buses are so full.
A trunk route (either new or by extension) for Yew Tee would be very useful for the residents and reduce the reliance on the MRT.
Otherwise, a feeder route from Yew Tee (either new or existing) should at least connect with the Downtown Line at Bukit Panjang in future.
Originally posted by Bus Stopping:Special reply for you: No new housing have been built there in the past at lesat 5 years. No population increases, but still demand increases. Is that not lazy?
The fact is that Singaporeans have been walking to the MRT stations for a long time before distance fare have been implemented. That was true of the working population then before 2008 before transfer rebates was steeply increased and before distance fare have been implemented. In other words, by having 0c to 5c fare for 2-3 bus stops, we activated the laziness in people.
Everyone is lazy (myself included), but by having it so cheap to be lazy, everyone will choose to be lazy. Problem is, this is not sustainable in the long run. Please look at the recent new short trips from MRT/interchanges in this press release thread. How many of them are actually catering to passengers who travel for a very short distance.
If we continue to cater our main trunk routes to serve as feeder buses, and as well as implementing special short trips like 302A, then i'm afraid we better be prepared to look at a very steep increase in bus fares in the coming years.
Hi mr bus stopping, no population increases but demand increases. So??? Why is that equivalent to lazy? You mean if I choose not to walk, I am lazy? What sort of theory is this? I may have other reasons. I need to meet clients so I need to be presentable. I can still exercise and keep fit at other times of the week. So do not assume all are lazy when they do not want to walk.
Before 2008, the working population is also entited to transfer rebate of 50 cents for each connecting trip. This is quite similar to distance-based calculation which is implemented. Last time it is 60 cents -50 cents = 10 cents. Now is distance-based and could be anything from 0 to 30 cents depending on your earlier trip. So if you count by 5 days a week, it may be even out. This does not equate to laziness in people.
Your third point is not sustainable. For every feeder introduced, there is a relevant reason to substantiate it. Please be specific on the short working trip which is introduced as a lazy alternative.
Hey come on, with or without implementing these bus services, bus fares will increase. Everything else is also increasing. Bus drivers will also need yearly increment. Do you really seriously believe that by not introducing smrt 302A, bus fares will drop? I rest my case. Cheers.
Originally posted by array88:Additional bus stop for sv 63 and 63M along Ubi Ave 2.
It was funny that 63 didn't stop here. Good move,
Originally posted by dupdup77:Hi mr bus stopping, no population increases but demand increases. So??? Why is that equivalent to lazy? You mean if I choose not to walk, I am lazy? What sort of theory is this? I may have other reasons. I need to meet clients so I need to be presentable. I can still exercise and keep fit at other times of the week. So do not assume all are lazy when they do not want to walk.
Before 2008, the working population is also entited to transfer rebate of 50 cents for each connecting trip. This is quite similar to distance-based calculation which is implemented. Last time it is 60 cents -50 cents = 10 cents. Now is distance-based and could be anything from 0 to 30 cents depending on your earlier trip. So if you count by 5 days a week, it may be even out. This does not equate to laziness in people.
Your third point is not sustainable. For every feeder introduced, there is a relevant reason to substantiate it. Please be specific on the short working trip which is introduced as a lazy alternative.
Hey come on, with or without implementing these bus services, bus fares will increase. Everything else is also increasing. Bus drivers will also need yearly increment. Do you really seriously believe that by not introducing smrt 302A, bus fares will drop? I rest my case. Cheers.
There is nothing wrong with being lazy, everyone is lazy at some point of time. The issue is the fares is too low and it promotes more people to be lazy, creating induced demand which is unsustainable.
Perhaps you have not been paying adult fares in 2008 but the transfer rebate is only 25c before 2008, that is nearly 50c bus fare if you choose to transfer for 2-3 stops. Distance fare for transferring to 302A will only be 0c to 20c at most, but for most who transfer from MRT it does not exceed 10c, you can check the fare table.
Considering a fair 3 trips per hour per bus, (20mins per round including uturn and rest), and 50 pax at 20c, the fare revenue is only $30 per hour. This is barely even enough to cover the fuel cost and wages of the bc, not to even mention the cost of having 1 additional bus placed on 302A which could be put to better use. The service is subsidised using 1.1billion bsep funds, so there is reasons to be accountable for this.
I would not be surprised if the bus fares would hike as much as 20-30% in the next 2-3 years if they continue to promote such use of buses.