Is SBST utilising DDs in the correct way?

• SBS3050L

  27 Dec 13, 18:52

  I wonder why 119's DDs are still there. 43, 130 need more DDs.

• SBS7777Y

  27 Dec 13, 18:55

  you so good you run SBS transit and stop complaining

• SMB128B

  28 Dec 13, 08:40

  Hahaha

• wsy1234

  29 Dec 13, 19:39

  is the load from 49 need DD buses?

• carbikebus

  29 Dec 13, 19:42

  In my honest opinion just 2-3 DDs enough.Sometimes the loading is pathetic. .4 Citaros & 3 WEGs enough.

• wsy1234

  29 Dec 13, 19:48

  maybe 4 might need one soon

• carbikebus

  29 Dec 13, 19:51

  4 for the time being need timing revision and probably need extra split shift buses..

• sinicker

  30 Dec 13, 01:03

  yes.... 4 needs s-shift.
  
  some services, always look full with single deck...... you put double deck, you see it running around empty. 

• FireIce

  30 Dec 13, 01:04

  hanor. stupid de loh . 

  off-peak hours chut DD
  peak hours chut SD 挤死人

   

  43 and 50

• carbikebus

  30 Dec 13, 15:26

  With low floor buses like Citaros and A22s even 50 passengers do look full..

• charlize

  31 Dec 13, 19:55

  

• BusAnalayzer

  1 Jan 14, 20:30

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  In my honest opinion just 2-3 DDs enough.Sometimes the loading is pathetic. .4 Citaros & 3 WEGs enough.

  119, 49 both BSEP - why bother?

• carbikebus

  1 Jan 14, 20:33

  Wah,revenge eh?Anyway not my blardy money also they put DDs cause someone did ask how is the loadings anyway Bus Anal

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 16:12

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Wah,revenge eh?Anyway not my blardy money also they put DDs cause someone did ask how is the loadings anyway Bus Anal

  
  LOL. Peace time!

  I went for a one week holiday to Europe, so have not done my quota of 4 peak buses. Just done one till now in week 1 when loading was decent. Plan to do the rest this week and then will post.

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 16:31

  You should monitor JIS which svc dont need full DDs

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 16:55

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  You should monitor JIS which svc dont need full DDs

  I had the same question. So I have actually monitored all JIS services during peak hours. Each bus takes 80-120 pax between 06.45 and 08.15am in morning peak. Other way round buses come totally empty. I am not sure if the buses should run uni-directional during this time slot - at least services 249, 251. For 182,192, 193, 252, 254, 255, 257 they have other loading points at Joo Koon, Tuas in opposite direction though that loading is far less worthy of DDs.

  Evening peak, the loading gets distributed. I counted for 246, 249, 251, 252 the number of pax alighting at Boon Lay Interchange (easier to do than for 182, 254). The number of pax varied between 50 - 70 pax for 246, 251. For 249 and 252 was more for certain buses but far lesser than AM peak as the peak hour in PM is more spread out.

  I also feel the frequency of certain JIS services like 249, 252 needs improvement and one BSEP bus should be added each.

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 17:14

  Actually SDs should be use during Sundays and Public Holidays.My Uncle drive JIS say the most is 1/2 loading during Sun/PHs...He ever drive DM3500 and KUBs on JIS and the most is few standees.

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 17:19

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Actually SDs should be use during Sundays and Public Holidays.My Uncle drive JIS say the most is 1/2 loading during Sun/PHs...He ever drive DM3500 and KUBs on JIS and the most is few standees.

  
  Agree Sun, PH should be all SDs also no problem. What did your uncle say about weekday loading? Matches my observation?

• SBS9067A

  2 Jan 14, 17:21

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  I had the same question. So I have actually monitored all JIS services during peak hours. Each bus takes 80-120 pax between 06.45 and 08.15am in morning peak. Other way round buses come totally empty. I am not sure if the buses should run uni-directional during this time slot - at least services 249, 251. For 182,192, 193, 252, 254, 255, 257 they have other loading points at Joo Koon, Tuas in opposite direction though that loading is far less worthy of DDs.

  Evening peak, the loading gets distributed. I counted for 246, 249, 251, 252 the number of pax alighting at Boon Lay Interchange (easier to do than for 182, 254). The number of pax varied between 50 - 70 pax for 246, 251. For 249 and 252 was more for certain buses but far lesser than AM peak as the peak hour in PM is more spread out.

  I also feel the frequency of certain JIS services like 249, 252 needs improvement and one BSEP bus should be added each.

  It's funny how BSEP on 246 seems to mean just adding one Wright (SBS3325U) and that's it. They should make some of thse buses SD and have more buses than just six. Not sure for the other JIS services, but since 246 also serves some neighbourhoods like mine...

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 17:24

  Weekdays peak hour loadings can cover the off peak loadings revenue liao.0615-0825 super packed,then after 9-13.30 a bit cool down,After 1500 packed again due to factory shift timings and the realloadings after 17.45-2100..Even at night from 21.45-22.15 loadings can be berserk.Saturdays mostly morning and early afternoon and after 15.30 BCs can shaking already.Sundays and PHs each JIS can use 2-4 DDs the most

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 17:29

  Originally posted by SBS9067A:

  It's funny how BSEP on 246 seems to mean just adding one Wright (SBS3325U) and that's it. They should make some of thse buses SD and have more buses than just six. Not sure for the other JIS services, but since 246 also serves some neighbourhoods like mine...

  
  I think 246 is okay now with 7 buses. It is mainly meant for industrial area. For Taman Jurong area now also have 49 along with 98, 240. On the other side of Lakeside, you have 240 with superb frequency. Adding more buses to 246 is wasting resources.

• BusAnalayzer

  2 Jan 14, 17:31

  Originally posted by carbikebus:

  Weekdays peak hour loadings can cover the off peak loadings revenue liao.0615-0825 super packed,then after 9-13.30 a bit cool down,After 1500 packed again due to factory shift timings and the realloadings after 17.45-2100..Even at night from 21.45-22.15 loadings can be berserk.Saturdays mostly morning and early afternoon and after 15.30 BCs can shaking already.Sundays and PHs each JIS can use 2-4 DDs the most

  
  But Sundays/PH, already using very few buses. DDs are important for week days because many of these services have spot loading when shift time ends. SDs cant clear the load at this time. + Most JIS services don't have very good frequency, so better to have DDs. Also many JIS area not covered with services also. I expect after Joo Koon opens, this will change.

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 17:32

  On the other hand SBST done a great job deploy 1 more S DD on svc 293.What they need now is exchange 1 full SD to 1 full DD.I see svc 10 nowadays loadings has also slightly dropped.But justified leh the number of SDs they deploy.69 also doing well.

• SBS9067A

  2 Jan 14, 17:32

  Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:

  
  I think 246 is okay now with 7 buses. It is mainly meant for industrial area. For Taman Jurong area now also have 49 along with 98, 240. On the other side of Lakeside, you have 240 with superb frequency. Adding more buses to 246 is wasting resources.

  True, though for Off-Peak hours they should deploy Citaros and VO3x rather than the latter and a Wright.

• carbikebus

  2 Jan 14, 17:35

  No need SDs for Weekdays but a mix of DD and SD for weekends and holidays is better.At least the DDs can rest or cameo on other svc.246 also siao2 leh,dun underestimate it.