Loyang Depot
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As i said 136 no need dual depot.For me if the svc is more than 20.5km per direction then its justified for dual depot.The one who need create more space is AMDEP.24,53,89 i quite agree if partial Lydep cause of its fleets and depot spacing.109 can go full Hgdep.161 need minority Amdep cause of first bus timings from WRI.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
As i said 136 no need dual depot.For me if the svc is more than 20.5km per direction then its justified for dual depot.The one who need create more space is AMDEP.24,53,89 i quite agree if partial Lydep cause of its fleets and depot spacing.109 can go full Hgdep.161 need minority Amdep cause of first bus timings from WRI.
I kept wandering what time 161 BC left to WRI for first bus, same goes for 39,13,88 if first bus start at 5.30am
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
I kept wandering what time 161 BC left to WRI for first bus, same goes for 39,13,88 if first bus start at 5.30am
My guess is about 4.00-4.30 am left depot
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Should 161 go back dual depot control to AMDEP? 39,88 dual control possible?
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Originally posted by SBS 6238T:
Should 161 go back dual depot control to AMDEP? 39,88 dual control possible?
161 no need la... 39 can get few trips AMDEP and 88 should go dual control once Loyang is operational. So should 27, 89, 109 relieving lot of space in HGDEP
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
161 no need la... 39 can get few trips AMDEP and 88 should go dual control once Loyang is operational. So should 27, 89, 109 relieving lot of space in HGDEP
If 39 wants to add downroutes instead of adding full trips, LYDEP is the go. I think this is gonna be a sooner or later thing, esp after the BSRF evaluation ends. Ditto for 27 89 109 if they want to add more downroutes starting from the PSR / Tampines Retail Park area (for Sv 27) during Peak Hours.
If 88 goes LYDEP, the first & last bus timings can be adjusted significantly already because it's definitely much closer in terms of travelling time to PSR Int than to BRBP. Even more significant is the reduction time in travelling just to refuel. -
13 majority Bn,39 minority Am
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Loyang Depot has a Capacity of 1000 buses when its fully completed.
CGP (Changi Bus Park) will be utilised by PBOs (Private Bus Operators) under BSEP.
Loyang Depot is Tendered for 10 years before making a move to the future site near Expo to intergrate fully with the completed Downtown Line. The future depot near Expo will be housed together with Rail & Bus Operations.
Pasir Ris Services will be on trial for the 1st phase opening this June.
Tampines, Pasir Ris, Airport & Changi Village services will fully utilise the Depot.
Services will be shared among 2 depots to better facilitate timings, reliability & to meet the new guidelines set by LTA.
Tampines Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
8, 10, 22, 31, 65 & 72
Pasir Ris Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
5, 21, 58 & 88
Airport Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
24, 27, 34, 36 & 89
Changi Village Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
109
Will update more...
Stay Tuned
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Originally posted by RyoRennor:
Loyang Depot has a Capacity of 1000 buses when its fully completed.
CGP (Changi Bus Park) will be utilised by PBOs (Private Bus Operators) under BSEP.
Loyang Depot is Tendered for 10 years before making a move to the future site near Expo to intergrate fully with the completed Downtown Line. The future depot near Expo will be housed together with Rail & Bus Operations.
Pasir Ris Services will be on trial for the 1st phase opening this June.
Tampines, Pasir Ris, Airport & Changi Village services will fully utilise the Depot.
Services will be shared among 2 depots to better facilitate timings, reliability & to meet the new guidelines set by LTA.
Tampines Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
8, 10, 22, 31, 65 & 72
Pasir Ris Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
5, 21, 58 & 88
Airport Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
24, 27, 34, 36 & 89
Changi Village Services that will be split into 2 Depots:
109
Will update more...
Stay Tuned
Add on 59 to Changi Village services, along with 109...
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Yes, missed that one.
59 is confirmed.
Loyang Depot will be chaotic due to the traffic conditions there. Builing a secondary road to Pasir Ris Drive 2 will be not be as smooth sailing also.
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So Changi Bus Park fall under who's purview?Loyang or Bedok North?Afaik Bedok North definitely control Bedok/Upp East Coast & Eunos.They miss 2 & 12,Should have been Loyang/Amdep control...Imagine first 4 buses start from New Bridge Rd,All the way waste fuel off service there.34 so short also tio dual depot?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
So Changi Bus Park fall under who's purview?Loyang or Bedok North?Afaik Bedok North definitely control Bedok/Upp East Coast & Eunos.They miss 2 & 12,Should have been Loyang/Amdep control...Imagine first 4 buses start from New Bridge Rd,All the way waste fuel off service there.34 so short also tio dual depot?
Isn't ARBP closer than AMDEP for 2, 12, 120?
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Spacing issues..Arbp only can hold 210 buses the most else you will see 120,400 & 402 all under Arbp..Actually they can if 14 & 48 goes to Bbdep
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
So Changi Bus Park fall under who's purview?Loyang or Bedok North?Afaik Bedok North definitely control Bedok/Upp East Coast & Eunos.They miss 2 & 12,Should have been Loyang/Amdep control...Imagine first 4 buses start from New Bridge Rd,All the way waste fuel off service there.34 so short also tio dual depot?
Should be bedok north since they are really damn close to each other. I also Dk why 34 need dual depot. So short a svc and so little buses, I believe HGDEP can manage. 27's case ah I definitely understand.
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24,27,36 & 53 dual depot so Loyang BCs start from Airport?How to change duty if there's pax inside?Maybe shifted to ground level terminal?
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SBS Transit is fully shifting out of Changi Bus Park when Loyang Re-Opens.
As for airport buses, they are still in planning phase with Changi Airport Group (CAG) to better facilitate bus operations in Airport. They did not build Loyang Depot for nothing. I am also puzzled to see service 34 in the lists of buses that will be trialled for dual-depots.
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Cut and copy ah friend?Off topic then Wlbp also let private operators use if there's plan for new bigger Woodlands Depot?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Spacing issues..Arbp only can hold 210 buses the most else you will see 120,400 & 402 all under Arbp..Actually they can if 14 & 48 goes to Bbdep
Need some reallocation. 65 can take more CGBP and relieve 4 slots for 2 to start from ARBP. Rest all buses can be BNDEP for sv2. Same way some more swapping can be done with 48 taking 50% duties to Bndep and those empty spots given to Sv 12.
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Waiting to see Service_238 with his foot in his mouth. Ditto for SBS&TIBS. Who said LYBP wasn't feasible?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
So Changi Bus Park fall under who's purview?Loyang or Bedok North?Afaik Bedok North definitely control Bedok/Upp East Coast & Eunos.They miss 2 & 12,Should have been Loyang/Amdep control...Imagine first 4 buses start from New Bridge Rd,All the way waste fuel off service there.34 so short also tio dual depot?
What about 174? Can joint control or not? -
174 also can dual depot as from Soon Lee to New Bridge Rd is quite a distance
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Originally posted by RyoRennor:
Loyang Depot has a Capacity of 1000 buses when its fully completed.
CGP (Changi Bus Park) will be utilised by PBOs (Private Bus Operators) under BSEP.
Loyang Depot is Tendered for 10 years before making a move to the future site near Expo to intergrate fully with the completed Downtown Line. The future depot near Expo will be housed together with Rail & Bus Operations.
Pasir Ris Services will be on trial for the 1st phase opening this June.
Tampines, Pasir Ris, Airport & Changi Village services will fully utilise the Depot.
Can someone clarify clearer what does this phrase "fully utilise the depot" mean? So means all the current PSR, CGA, CGV services that have buses under BNDEP control will now have all their BNDEP buses under fully LYDEP-controlled?
Or does that line mean those svcs mentioned will split the current BNDEP-controlled buses into 50-50 equally among LYDEP & BNDEP? -
He mean Pasir Ris,Changi Village,Changi Airport & Tampines service will be under Lydep control.Bedok North will only control Bedok,Upp East Coast & Eunos only.
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
He mean Pasir Ris,Changi Village,Changi Airport & Tampines service will be under Lydep control.Bedok North will only control Bedok,Upp East Coast & Eunos only.
I see, thanks for the clarification.
How many more years does BNDEP have in lease anyway? And wouldn't that leave BNDEP quite "vacant" come LYDEP's opening?And for those svcs that are gonna be split into 2 depots as mentioned above, does that mean their buses will be split LYDEP/BNDEP in time to come?
Pardon me if I ask uh, I got lost in the words above.