SBST & SMRT Q3 2013 financials for bus business units
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SBST: $0.9m loss SMRTB: $7.0m loss
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Originally posted by sbst275:
SBST: $0.9m loss
SMRTB: $7.0m lossAny idea how do they lost the money besides daily ops?
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Originally posted by All the Best!:
Any idea how do they lost the money besides daily ops?
Because they keep adding buses to 179A just to satisfy someone's needs. -
Originally posted by Scania:
Because they keep adding buses to 179A just to satisfy someone's needs.
Eh... Excuse me... Not operated bus at all = satisfy someone's needs? So SBST's other bus svs suka suka can dun dispatch bus? -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Eh... Excuse me... Not operated bus at all = satisfy someone's needs? So SBST's other bus svs suka suka can dun dispatch bus?
Some people just can't see through sarcasm. Though I have one phrase for you, toughen up princess. -
There are things that can be joked.. there's some dun bother joking... esp it's over QoS that comes w/ penalty...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
There are things that can be joked.. there’s some dun bother joking… esp it’s over QoS that comes w/ penalty…
Well, if 179 doesn't come out on the list of routes which didn't meet the stipulated QOS, then I reckon you should stop the self centric rants. Other people have it worse than NTU students. -
Originally posted by Scania:
Well, if 179 doesn't come out on the list of routes which didn't meet the stipulated QOS, then I reckon you should stop the self centric rants. Other people have it worse than NTU students.Spotted many empty 179A trips coming down from NTU ytd.
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pay yourself lah students king meh???
pay so less yet demand a world class bus service
when i was in NTU i walk from Pioneer MRT which is only a 10-15mins walk
why need full fleet DDs and empty 179A to cater to the kings???
Wouldnt it be like Sv 119??
So wad if it breaches QoS??
Isnt there alot of bus svcs that has alr breached QoS and are still ignored??
For such a short route 30 buses is more than enough already ok
179 shud start from a suggested Pioneer Roadside terminal .. Good enough??
1 min 3-4 buses in NTU
Let's email LTA, SBS TRANSIT, NTU, PTC ~
Maybe NTU can construct LRT system ??? then 179 can reduce fleet or maybe removed?? just like Sv 371??
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Oh God. Again discussion on 179/179A. Full fleet DD with 28 buses. Not enough? Still want to complain. Frequency of 3-4 mins. Still want to complain. If one bus goes full, next bus right behind and can get a place to sit. Still want to complain!!!
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Such a huge difference between SBST and SMRT losses. Seems like SBST with having 70% of the bus services is doing way better. Though the business is not profitable, there is at least hope.
With SMRT, they just have to go shut shop because they have proved to be inefficient in every way that is making them incur such huge losses.
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Thread will end up having the same fate as bus rts that have buses not bothering to adhere bus schedule
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How come SMRT loss so many money while SBS Transit loss little money?
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eh... The title is not correct... Because of how SMRT's charts its Financial Year... To SMRT, the same qtr is Q2
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Oh God. Again discussion on 179/179A. Full fleet DD with 28 buses. Not enough? Still want to complain. Frequency of 3-4 mins. Still want to complain. If one bus goes full, next bus right behind and can get a place to sit. Still want to complain!!!
Excuse me... Bus is not even operated to begin with... Your other bus route, they anyhow come you can accept or not? Not about the frequency... It's how they dispatch the bus... Still want to defend over-ops.. If there's RTA, I see how they going to write the duty code of the bus involved.. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Excuse me... Bus is not even operated to begin with... Your other bus route, they anyhow come you can accept or not? Not about the frequency... It's how they dispatch the bus... Still want to defend over-ops.. If there's RTA, I see how they going to write the duty code of the bus involved..Please stop behaving like a selfish bastard here and expect everything to go your way. Stop whining like a 3-year-old kid, accept it that's life and that's how SBST keeps its bus ops alive.
If you want your dear 179A to operate properly then complain to SBST lah! If cannot complain to LTA, Translink and plead them to fit it in BSEP just to suit your petty life lah! After all you are so good in complaining here what! With your bloody statistics and all!
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sadly tan pang soon still cant accept the fact
i rly dun uds wad is a few more min to him on 179 than 179A. pioneer mrt alight nid 30 min?
the irony is.. he stay at tpy.. the way he travel home to sch takes much longer than if he were to take the mrt
all becoz of persistence not to take the mrt
so live with it, or shut up
and as response to all the best
his threads always end up the same
but i hope u can spot the pattern in the way he makes threads
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Like I'll say.. and people like negotiable are just making attacks... I'll repeat this.. Dun stalk and attack on people... Dun want to reply dun bother typing 1) If the MRT breaks down at Joo Koon, leaving with EWL trains turning around at Boon Lay... May I know what's the contingency plan? How are passengers going to be quickly dispersed out of the congested Pioneer Stn bus stop? Say people anti SMRT this and that, then when MRT breakdown... Maybe the next thing go and ask why no shuttle bus, how come not enough bus to clear the crowd... negotiable can suggest something? Since you think I'm talking with no logic? 2) The incident where the BC took no heed to wait for the alighting pax... The BC still has the right to scold passengers for not alighting quickly. Made matters worst, all the buses were operated as 179... Many of the buses fly stop at 27231 and 27251 except for alighting. Do people know how SLBP timekeeper used to make people squeeze on 179A during AM peak ops? Squeeze until the exit door of LO3x has problem closing! People even had problems alighting as there was people with no choice standing on the staircase leading to the upper deck. 3) S241 BC flouting traffic rule, S179 BC stopping at 27211's zig zag line whenever S179A is not operated, buses alighting pax at Pioneer Stn by parking along the road beside the S179 buses inside the bus stop bay... All these are condoned? 4) S179A is not profitable. Chickenlittle2 is eating his own words. Many of the overoperated S179 are not even taking in pax into NTU with 10% loading factor. Why I'm saying 10% is because of the losses... The S179 bus is incurring runtime into NTU and yet it only collects some $0.80 - $2... Can this cover the additional time incurred in relation to manpower cost? Chickenlittle2 is better off working in the NTUC Fairprice. Because hearsay is that NTUC realised by running 24 hrs it's not able to cover the additional cost [additional revenue cannot cover the cost incurred to run 24 hrs]... Since chickenlittle2 know how to defend, I think NTUC or Sheng Siong would like him, with knowing how to come with pattern to increase revenue at all cost.. 5) Overops issue and anti SMRT... Obviously negotiable is condoning illegal bus ops just for the purpose to say I'm anti SMRT... If the bus get into accident, how to report the bus duty code? and made worst, many of these buses the BC does not even have the way bill with them onboard! and say I anti SMRT for not letting them to earn the revenue? I think negotiable is now attacking LTA then since it was their stipulated arrangement... Furthermore, I didn't know negotiable is ok if his own bus sv he takes is underoperated just because ops staff say loading not high enough... Want to attack, better know what the matter is all about... anyway.. if the matter goes to the media, see what happens... like S190 case... buses not properly operated.. Want to flame on people, dun end up eating your own words just to find it fun to attack on people...
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Hmmm seems legit
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SMRT might give up bus ops soon,
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Dont think so,worse to worse change CEO and bus operation managements
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Originally posted by sbst275:
Like I’ll say.. and people like negotiable are just making attacks…
I’ll repeat this.. Dun stalk and attack on people… Dun want to reply dun bother typing
1) If the MRT breaks down at Joo Koon, leaving with EWL trains turning around at Boon Lay… May I know what’s the contingency plan? How are passengers going to be quickly dispersed out of the congested Pioneer Stn bus stop?
Say people anti SMRT this and that, then when MRT breakdown… Maybe the next thing go and ask why no shuttle bus, how come not enough bus to clear the crowd…
negotiable can suggest something? Since you think I’m talking with no logic?
2) The incident where the BC took no heed to wait for the alighting pax… The BC still has the right to scold passengers for not alighting quickly.
Made matters worst, all the buses were operated as 179… Many of the buses fly stop at 27231 and 27251 except for alighting.
Do people know how SLBP timekeeper used to make people squeeze on 179A during AM peak ops? Squeeze until the exit door of LO3x has problem closing! People even had problems alighting as there was people with no choice standing on the staircase leading to the upper deck.
3) S241 BC flouting traffic rule, S179 BC stopping at 27211’s zig zag line whenever S179A is not operated, buses alighting pax at Pioneer Stn by parking along the road beside the S179 buses inside the bus stop bay… All these are condoned?
4) S179A is not profitable. Chickenlittle2 is eating his own words. Many of the overoperated S179 are not even taking in pax into NTU with 10% loading factor. Why I’m saying 10% is because of the losses…
The S179 bus is incurring runtime into NTU and yet it only collects some $0.80 – $2… Can this cover the additional time incurred in relation to manpower cost?
Chickenlittle2 is better off working in the NTUC Fairprice. Because hearsay is that NTUC realised by running 24 hrs it’s not able to cover the additional cost [additional revenue cannot cover the cost incurred to run 24 hrs]... Since chickenlittle2 know how to defend, I think NTUC or Sheng Siong would like him, with knowing how to come with pattern to increase revenue at all cost..
5) Overops issue and anti SMRT… Obviously negotiable is condoning illegal bus ops just for the purpose to say I’m anti SMRT…
If the bus get into accident, how to report the bus duty code? and made worst, many of these buses the BC does not even have the way bill with them onboard!
and say I anti SMRT for not letting them to earn the revenue? I think negotiable is now attacking LTA then since it was their stipulated arrangement…
Furthermore, I didn’t know negotiable is ok if his own bus sv he takes is underoperated just because ops staff say loading not high enough…
Want to attack, better know what the matter is all about…
anyway.. if the matter goes to the media, see what happens… like S190 case… buses not properly operated..
Want to flame on people, dun end up eating your own words just to find it fun to attack on people…
gosh..tts nt even my words in e first place
persistence nt to take mrt =/= anti smrt
pls where u get this logic from
din knw after 4 yrs of study, english still so bad
obviously u din get my pt
i think its better u go entertain josephine, teck guan, francis and cary better ok??!
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Sbst275 kena pawned again...
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Sbst275 kena pawned again...
Well said*clap* *clap*
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Really la no sarcasm intended leh