[BSEP] New Service 972 from 17th Nov (Bt Panjang-Orchard Rd)
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Overheard some aunties while on the bus.
"SMRT new 972 bus service very easy to remember, Mediacorp Love 97.2 FM that radio station lor!"
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Originally posted by SMB388S:
Overheard some aunties while on the bus.
"SMRT new 972 bus service very easy to remember, Mediacorp Love 97.2 FM that radio station lor!"
Info from BIS~ most popular and mainstream page on Singapore buses~
Pls no not post BIS posts here
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Originally posted by SMB388S:
Overheard some aunties while on the bus.
"SMRT new 972 bus service very easy to remember, Mediacorp Love 97.2 FM that radio station lor!"
Info from BIS~ most popular and mainstream page on Singapore buses~
keep seeing this BIS thingy.. can you stop posting in every single thread you post? I keep seeing it until I thought it was Bullshit Information System -
Originally posted by SBS9192X:
190 may still have a high load, due to using Bukit Panjang Road, without any detours. 972 might not have a very high loading due to routing around Bukit Panjang Town, but I see the load coming from the LRT areas: Bangkit , Fajar, Segar and Jelapang, though it does duplicate 922 and 971E a lot. Anyway, thanks for loading up the poster here!
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Any idea about the frequency?
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14 buses: 12 A/P, 2 S
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Originally posted by samtlk:
14 buses: 12 A/P, 2 S
not 12?972 Standy BC say 12
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since our govt so eager to add some more bus operators to compete with SBST and SMRT; then in this instance why not let sv972 be run by SBST instead? that looks more like competition.
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Originally posted by 23ispolo:
190 may still have a high load, due to using Bukit Panjang Road, without any detours. 972 might not have a very high loading due to routing around Bukit Panjang Town, but I see the load coming from the LRT areas: Bangkit , Fajar, Segar and Jelapang, though it does duplicate 922 and 971E a lot. Anyway, thanks for loading up the poster here!
Quite a unique route. 190 loading will not be affected. If at all, it will take away loading from sv 700 as people take bus/LRT to BPJ and change to 700 to go to Orchard instead of 190, as 190 is already packed when it comes to BPJ (no seat to sit) -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Quite a unique route. 190 loading will not be affected. If at all, it will take away loading from sv 700 as people take bus/LRT to BPJ and change to 700 to go to Orchard instead of 190, as 190 is already packed when it comes to BPJ (no seat to sit)I think that the route will only take away 190's loading at Blk 270 along Bukit Panjang Road, before going to Whitley Road. I actually think they should make 972 use Bangkit Road (with new bus stops in direction of Orchard) after Bukit Panjang Ring Road, so people don't need to walk to take 190 to the city at Blk 270.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Quite a unique route. 190 loading will not be affected. If at all, it will take away loading from sv 700 as people take bus/LRT to BPJ and change to 700 to go to Orchard instead of 190, as 190 is already packed when it comes to BPJ (no seat to sit)I suggest re-routing 700, skipping orchard and straight to Downtown. In that case its load won't be eaten by 972/190 and DTL. To make up less stops and to allow CCK residents to head to Suntec and other places quickly I second extending it to CCK like what 23ispolo had suggested.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I suggest re-routing 700, skipping orchard and straight to Downtown. In that case its load won't be eaten by 972/190 and DTL. To make up less stops and to allow CCK residents to head to Suntec and other places quickly I second extending it to CCK like what 23ispolo had suggested.
What was my suggestion? Must have forgotten...
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Originally posted by samtlk:
14 buses: 12 A/P, 2 S
Just as i thought, whole fleet of recent registered SMB3080J - SMB3093Y...
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Suspect 8 Wldep 6 Kjdep cause SMRT anyhow depot deployment one
A few days and you will see overcrowding again...
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I suggest re-routing 700, skipping orchard and straight to Downtown. In that case its load won't be eaten by 972/190 and DTL. To make up less stops and to allow CCK residents to head to Suntec and other places quickly I second extending it to CCK like what 23ispolo had suggested.
It won't be a full day viable route if you are going to skip Orchard for 700. The load on 700 comes from Orchard, and you want the route to skip that? -
Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
It won't be a full day viable route if you are going to skip Orchard for 700. The load on 700 comes from Orchard, and you want the route to skip that?I'm not exactly sure of whether it is the same or not, but the load for 700A towards Suntec during weekends full day comes from BPJ pax and they don't alight until reaching Dhoby Ghaut.
Moreover, with 972 coming up do you think so many people would want to take 700 to Orchard after all?
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Somebody should probably do a song about the woes of ‪#‎public‬ ‪#‎transport‬ in ‪#‎Singapore‬, like seriously.
"Jam in Singapore, packed MRT and bus, wait 14 bus, no bus come"
If you know anybody who makes songs & music, might wanna pitch this idea to them?
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
I'm not exactly sure of whether it is the same or not, but the load for 700A towards Suntec during weekends full day comes from BPJ pax and they don't alight until reaching Dhoby Ghaut.
Moreover, with 972 coming up do you think so many people would want to take 700 to Orchard after all?
And that's what I said. 972 will eat into 700's loading more than 190. But 700 express on Orchard road will also do no good because weekday loading between Shenton and Orchard is not heavy. Bus will run into loss. Maybe can parallel route to 960 to relieve some loading there.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
And that's what I said. 972 will eat into 700's loading more than 190. But 700 express on Orchard road will also do no good because weekday loading between Shenton and Orchard is not heavy. Bus will run into loss. Maybe can parallel route to 960 to relieve some loading there.
Hmmm... Maybe 700A can skip then? And 700 can remain as it is. After all, no matter how much the loss 972 is BSEP and there is nth you can do to rationalise 700.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Hmmm... Maybe 700A can skip then? And 700 can remain as it is. After all, no matter how much the loss 972 is BSEP and there is nth you can do to rationalise 700.
Yeah that's why best is to extend 700 to CCK. The route will be successful. -
Bt Panjang again
Singapore — Work is under way to improve transport infrastructure in Bukit Panjang, where the town’s population is set to grow by close to 10 per cent with seven public housing projects in the pipeline.
The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said 29 new buses under the Government’s S$1.1 billion Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) have been added to services that ply Bukit Panjang, reducing congestion and waiting times during peak periods.
Two new flyovers along Upper Bukit Timah Road and Woodlands Road will be built, with parts of this stretch widened to improve the overall traffic flow.
The stretch is a key arterial road for the north-western part of Singapore, serving the Kranji and Mandai industrial estates, as well as Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang towns. The LTA said this stretch currently experiences “high traffic volume”, especially at key junctions and intersections during peak hours.
The authority laid out these measures as Bukit Panjang’s transport infrastructure came under the spotlight recently, after a video taken by a commuter, who said she was unable to board Service 190 13 times on Oct 4, became widely circulated online. Public transport operator SMRT announced last week that it would be launching a new bus service between Bukit Panjang and the city on Nov 17.
Mr Liang Eng Hwa, the constituency’s Member of Parliament, said “the challenge” faced by Bukit Panjang is that it is “a matured town that is still growing”. Bukit Panjang is currently home to more than 110,000 residents, with another 10,000 more expected to move to the estate over the next few years.
Mr Liang said “the main problem” is that there is presently no MRT line serving the town. “Hence, residents primarily rely on the public buses and LRT as the main modes of transport. As a result, as the population increased, it resulted in more crowded buses, bus stops and LRT trains during the peak hours,” he added.
Most of the 15 Bukit Panjang residents TODAY spoke to expressed unhappiness with the frequency and crowdedness of feeder bus Services 920 and 922, despite the addition of buses under the BSEP programme.
The wait for Service 920 can be as long as 30 minutes in the mornings, said assistant nurse June Din. The 52-year-old said she has to take the feeder bus to Bukit Panjang Plaza in order to change buses to get to her workplace. “I prefer to walk because it only takes me about 10 minutes. I’ll spend more time waiting if I take the bus,” she said.
Mr Liang said the location of the current interchange is also not ideal for the major trunk routes, with a bus hub — a longer bus stop that allows more buses to pick up commuters at the same time — along Bangkit Road serving as the default interchange for bus services for residents.
“It is so long that you do not know at which point of the extended bus stop the bus will come to a halt for commuters to embark. Hence, it is quite a common scene to see commuters racing along bus stop to (board) the bus which could be stopping at the other end of the bus stop,” he added.
The public transport situation could change in 2015 when a new integrated transport hub — comprising a new bus interchange integrated with an LRT station and an upcoming Downtown Line MRT station — is completed. The part of the Downtown Line running through the estate is scheduled to be completed in mid-2016.
Beyond public transport, residents also suggested more slip roads to nearby expressways.
“More slip roads can be built towards the Kranji Expressway to filter the traffic away from Bukit Panjang Ring Road. That area is quite packed, especially before and after school hours,” said Mr Keith Tan, 33.
There are three schools within the Senja area, but most motorists prefer to use the same road, Bukit Panjang Ring Road, to access the area.
The LTA said it is studying if Bukit Panjang’s accessibility to the nearby expressways could be enhanced. With the road widening and improvement work along Upper Bukit Timah Road and Woodlands Road scheduled to be completed by the end of 2015, motorists can expect shorter journey times by using the new flyovers to bypass two traffic junctions at Bukit Panjang Road and Dairy Farm Road, it added
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Originally posted by phillipC:
Bt Panjang again
Singapore — Work is under way to improve transport infrastructure in Bukit Panjang, where the town’s population is set to grow by close to 10 per cent with seven public housing projects in the pipeline.
The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said 29 new buses under the Government’s S$1.1 billion Bus Service Enhancement Programme (BSEP) have been added to services that ply Bukit Panjang, reducing congestion and waiting times during peak periods.
Two new flyovers along Upper Bukit Timah Road and Woodlands Road will be built, with parts of this stretch widened to improve the overall traffic flow.
The stretch is a key arterial road for the north-western part of Singapore, serving the Kranji and Mandai industrial estates, as well as Bukit Panjang and Choa Chu Kang towns. The LTA said this stretch currently experiences “high traffic volume”, especially at key junctions and intersections during peak hours.
The authority laid out these measures as Bukit Panjang’s transport infrastructure came under the spotlight recently, after a video taken by a commuter, who said she was unable to board Service 190 13 times on Oct 4, became widely circulated online. Public transport operator SMRT announced last week that it would be launching a new bus service between Bukit Panjang and the city on Nov 17.
Mr Liang Eng Hwa, the constituency’s Member of Parliament, said “the challenge” faced by Bukit Panjang is that it is “a matured town that is still growing”. Bukit Panjang is currently home to more than 110,000 residents, with another 10,000 more expected to move to the estate over the next few years.
Mr Liang said “the main problem” is that there is presently no MRT line serving the town. “Hence, residents primarily rely on the public buses and LRT as the main modes of transport. As a result, as the population increased, it resulted in more crowded buses, bus stops and LRT trains during the peak hours,” he added.
Most of the 15 Bukit Panjang residents TODAY spoke to expressed unhappiness with the frequency and crowdedness of feeder bus Services 920 and 922, despite the addition of buses under the BSEP programme.
The wait for Service 920 can be as long as 30 minutes in the mornings, said assistant nurse June Din. The 52-year-old said she has to take the feeder bus to Bukit Panjang Plaza in order to change buses to get to her workplace. “I prefer to walk because it only takes me about 10 minutes. I’ll spend more time waiting if I take the bus,” she said.
Mr Liang said the location of the current interchange is also not ideal for the major trunk routes, with a bus hub — a longer bus stop that allows more buses to pick up commuters at the same time — along Bangkit Road serving as the default interchange for bus services for residents.
“It is so long that you do not know at which point of the extended bus stop the bus will come to a halt for commuters to embark. Hence, it is quite a common scene to see commuters racing along bus stop to (board) the bus which could be stopping at the other end of the bus stop,” he added.
The public transport situation could change in 2015 when a new integrated transport hub — comprising a new bus interchange integrated with an LRT station and an upcoming Downtown Line MRT station — is completed. The part of the Downtown Line running through the estate is scheduled to be completed in mid-2016.
Beyond public transport, residents also suggested more slip roads to nearby expressways.
“More slip roads can be built towards the Kranji Expressway to filter the traffic away from Bukit Panjang Ring Road. That area is quite packed, especially before and after school hours,” said Mr Keith Tan, 33.
There are three schools within the Senja area, but most motorists prefer to use the same road, Bukit Panjang Ring Road, to access the area.
The LTA said it is studying if Bukit Panjang’s accessibility to the nearby expressways could be enhanced. With the road widening and improvement work along Upper Bukit Timah Road and Woodlands Road scheduled to be completed by the end of 2015, motorists can expect shorter journey times by using the new flyovers to bypass two traffic junctions at Bukit Panjang Road and Dairy Farm Road, it added
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Governmant quite lame actually, keep adding new infrastructures to Bt. Panjang and Jurong East, machiam other parts of Singapore very poor like that... lol
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
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Governmant quite lame actually, keep adding new infrastructures to Bt. Panjang and Jurong East, machiam other parts of Singapore very poor like that... lol
They like to play favourites.
Sengkang, Tampines and Punggol were once a favourite.
But once they set their targets on JE they left these places like old dust.
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Originally posted by TIB1234T:
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Governmant quite lame actually, keep adding new infrastructures to Bt. Panjang and Jurong East, machiam other parts of Singapore very poor like that... lol
but if you go to see - even BPJ was not covered well for so many years. Yes, they added buses to BPJ Interchange but bulk of people in BPJ live along BPJ Ring Road. They had no direct service for so many years except few time slots of 971E. It is only now that 972 is launched. My friend tells me AM/PM peak quite a hazard to take LRT. It is bursting. No good bus alternative as 920/922 frequency very poor.So only people who really lived along BPJ/Petir road got benefited. If someone from BPJ ring road takes LRT to BPJ Int, it is same like taking LRT from CCK to BPJ.