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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Wrong 925 Kj side got 1Am shift
167 or 961?
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Originally posted by Gus.chong:
Withdrawn service: Feeder 371. The single bus fleet service: Service 11.
Bingo! Good job
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
167 or 961?
167 la bro 961 got 3 starters
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Which Sembawang service has the poorest frequency?
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
Which Sembawang service has the poorest frequency?
882...
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981
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
882...
I would also say 882 because 981 is like a special bus run for Senoko during just peak.I fail to understand why 882 have not got fleet add yet. It is the only service connecting HDB hubs along Wellington Circle, Montreal Drive and Sembawang Road to Sembawang MRT.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I would also say 882 because 981 is like a special bus run for Senoko during just peak.I fail to understand why 882 have not got fleet add yet. It is the only service connecting HDB hubs along Wellington Circle, Montreal Drive and Sembawang Road to Sembawang MRT.
Coz 882 got less demand and no one complain about 882 frequency?
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
I would also say 882 because 981 is like a special bus run for Senoko during just peak.I fail to understand why 882 have not got fleet add yet. It is the only service connecting HDB hubs along Wellington Circle, Montreal Drive and Sembawang Road to Sembawang MRT.
Don't be daft. 882 does NOT need fleet add. Go and look at the svc. Even during peak hours the bus isn't half filled. Leave alone off-peak. And that svc is not for the HDB residents there since it's only max 3 stops. 882 main load comes from Sembawang Park and the camp sites there, which unfortunately does not give much load to svc 882. I find its fleet more than alright, it is okay as of status quo since this svc is more or less like svc 84 and that svc only has 1 perm.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Don't be daft. 882 does NOT need fleet add. Go and look at the svc. Even during peak hours the bus isn't half filled. Leave alone off-peak. And that svc is not for the HDB residents there since it's only max 3 stops. 882 main load comes from Sembawang Park and the camp sites there, which unfortunately does not give much load to svc 882. I find its fleet more than alright, it is okay as of status quo since this svc is more or less like svc 84 and that svc only has 1 perm.
So what do the people along Montreal Dr and Wellington Circle do - walk to MRT if not take the bus? Just asking... Is it the poor frequency because of which loading is poor? -
Originally posted by SMB128B:
Don't be daft. 882 does NOT need fleet add. Go and look at the svc. Even during peak hours the bus isn't half filled. Leave alone off-peak. And that svc is not for the HDB residents there since it's only max 3 stops. 882 main load comes from Sembawang Park and the camp sites there, which unfortunately does not give much load to svc 882. I find its fleet more than alright, it is okay as of status quo since this svc is more or less like svc 84 and that svc only has 1 perm.
882 cannot be compared to sv 84. You can compare it to sv 354 - and this one did get not one but two BSEP add.
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Residents who live at Montreal Drive and Wellington Circle can walk to Sembawang MRT station as the distance is quite near or take 167 and stop @ Canberra Link bus stop n walk home. 882 is just an alternative
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
So what do the people along Montreal Dr and Wellington Circle do - walk to MRT if not take the bus? Just asking... Is it the poor frequency because of which loading is poor?The Montreal Dr residents seldom take 882. They rather take the faster and more frequent 169 from Yishun instead. I know this coz I take 169 sometimes. Many board at Yishun and alight at Montreal Dr there. Now I ask you: imagine you are a white collar office worker. Would you save one MRT stop and board 169 right outside the station which comes at 9 mins per bus during peak, or take to Sembawang, walk to the int, wait 16 mins and go a big round before returning home?
As for those at Wellington Circle, well most just chose to walk since by the time the bus comes they would alr be nearly home.
Regarding your question on whether poor freq is caused by low demand... Idk, but if it is really so then adding buses will just be a further waste of resource.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
882 cannot be compared to sv 84. You can compare it to sv 354 - and this one did get not one but two BSEP add.
354 is different. Look at how many people go to Downtown East everyday. And now even the tourists occupy a large proportion too. When you go to PSR MRT you will know why 354 is so crowded. Why? Coz of the signs there. At the station big words saying "Take svc 354 to Downtown East" can be clearly seen around the information counter. And also at the int too. "354: Downtown East/Jln Loyang Besar" and for those who don't stay at PSR (which is the majority of Downtown East visitors) will not know Downtown east is within walking distance and there are at least 3 other alt svcs to get there. It's thanks to this tactic that svc 354 gets to survive and in fact receive fleet add.
But 882 is different. Why did I compare to 84? Becoz both buses well served the faraway northern ends of Singapore. And both pass by parks and only served that bit of HDB. And not to forget, both has little perms and horrible freq. Using svc 84 I am trying to say that 882 DOES have demand, but that it does not need more buses becoz the current fleet is handling the pax well.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
354 is different. Look at how many people go to Downtown East everyday. And now even the tourists occupy a large proportion too. When you go to PSR MRT you will know why 354 is so crowded. Why? Coz of the signs there. At the station big words saying "Take svc 354 to Downtown East" can be clearly seen around the information counter. And also at the int too. "354: Downtown East/Jln Loyang Besar" and for those who don't stay at PSR (which is the majority of Downtown East visitors) will not know Downtown east is within walking distance and there are at least 3 other alt svcs to get there. It's thanks to this tactic that svc 354 gets to survive and in fact receive fleet add.
But 882 is different. Why did I compare to 84? Becoz both buses well served the faraway northern ends of Singapore. And both pass by parks and only served that bit of HDB. And not to forget, both has little perms and horrible freq. Using svc 84 I am trying to say that 882 DOES have demand, but that it does not need more buses becoz the current fleet is handling the pax well.
882 provides the link formerly covered by 167 and 84 provides the link formerly covered by 82.
BTOs on both SBW and PGL would most likely to affect 882 and 84 respectively
SBW svcs are 167, 859, 882, 980 and 981, all of which are trunk svcs. 981 operates in one direction in AM Peak and another in PM Peak. 859A is a SWT acting as a feeder in SBW.
frequency
167: 7 to 17 mins (7 to 17 mins and 10 to16 mins)
859: 6 to 18 mins (8 to 18 mins and 6 to 14 mins)
882: 12 to 18 mins
980: 12 to 18 mins (12 to 18 mins and 14 to 16 mins)
981: N/A
(source : SMRT official site; eBus Guide)
from this, i would think the 980 has a bad frequency in terms of average waiting time
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Originally posted by SMB145B:
882 provides the link formerly covered by 167 and 84 provides the link formerly covered by 82.
BTOs on both SBW and PGL would most likely to affect 882 and 84 respectively
SBW svcs are 167, 859, 882, 980 and 981, all of which are trunk svcs. 981 operates in one direction in AM Peak and another in PM Peak. 859A is a SWT acting as a feeder in SBW.
frequency
167: 7 to 17 mins (7 to 17 mins and 10 to16 mins)
859: 6 to 18 mins (8 to 18 mins and 6 to 14 mins)
882: 12 to 18 mins
980: 12 to 18 mins (12 to 18 mins and 14 to 16 mins)
981: N/A
(source : SMRT official site; eBus Guide)
from this, i would think the 980 has a bad frequency in terms of average waiting time
Isn't it same as 882 alr?
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Isn't it same as 882 alr?
those in brackets indicates per direction
882
13 to 17 mins, 13 to 17 mins, 14 to 18 mins, 12 to 17 mins
980
12 to 15 mins, 14 to 17 mins, 14 to 18 mins, 15 to 18 mins
15 to 16 mins, 14 to 17 mins, 16 to 17 mins, 14 to 16 mins
about the same
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Looks to me like 882 would do better if it had better frequency as people now rely on 169.
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Sv 800 normally seems empty on the west side of Yishun Ring road, only when it comes to the east side of Yishun Ring road it gets full towards Yishun MRT. Just an observation from the few times I have seen the service.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
In all 161 DDs were added in the last 18 months to SBST fleet.
Maybe thats why Sv 161 have all DDs
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Ok which user here always observe bus loadings?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Ok which user here always observe bus loadings?
SBS7557R?
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Originally posted by carbikebus:
Ok which user here always observe bus loadings?
I dont know, you tell me
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The service which has the most diversity of bus models deployed.
Should be easy.