Yishun Integrated Transport Hub & Temporary Bus Interchange
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Originally posted by lemon1974:
5 years later , you wont know what happen.maybe yishun service all taken over by SBST?
maybe SMRT handover bus operation already.
ah yeah before SMRT went broke ...
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SMB66X, just to clarify, sv 85 is mainly useful as it serves as a townlink between Sengkang West and Sengkang East. It need not be compared to sv 965 in the first place as they have different routes. If anyone from Yishun wants to go to Sengkang, Punggol Road, best option is 965. If you want to go to other parts of Sengkang, 85 is a good option.
But the loading of sv 85 apart from few time slots in peak hours is weak between Yishun and Sengkang, but within Sengkang area, even off-peak buses have a good 35-40 pax within Sengkang town.
85 will also gain more popularity in coming years when Sengkang West and Punggol areas develop. For now, existing fleet is just fine and serving well. You will hardly see a sv 85 bus packed to the door. Having said that, I repeat that it is still an important service for within Sengkang town.
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On sv 39, I completely agree that going to Tampines Int is a waste because people will take 969 rather than 39 to Tampines. Those who want to go to Tampines Ave 7, 4, 5 or 2 can also take 858 and change at Seletar stop to 168. Why will they take 39 that has a long winding route to Tampines?
I think the reason 39 goes to Tampines is because they don't have many terminating options. Either terminate at Pasir Ris Int or Tampines. Can't terminate at Pasir Ris Int as it will affect Loyang and Pasir Ris Dr 1 residents who take 39 to Yishun or Woodlands (transfer to 168 at Seletar).
The option I would recommend is to divert it to Changi Village Terminal via Loyang Avenue. The issue there is it might not be in a position to take in more services as the terminal space is quite limited.
The other option is to have it loop at Loyang Ave via Pasir Ris Dr 2.
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Why do you need to add 1 more bus to sv 39? Already 3-4 buses have been added in the last few service improvements. Can't go SMRT style of sv 106 and sv 190 and then bleed losses.
Better is to add 2 split shift DDs on sv 39 during AM peak. It will cater to the AM peak load and once Yishun Temp Interchange comes up, SBST can ply DDs and I am sure it will.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
On sv 39, I completely agree that going to Tampines Int is a waste because people will take 969 rather than 39 to Tampines. Those who want to go to Tampines Ave 7, 4, 5 or 2 can also take 858 and change at Seletar stop to 168. Why will they take 39 that has a long winding route to Tampines?
I think the reason 39 goes to Tampines is because they don't have many terminating options. Either terminate at Pasir Ris Int or Tampines. Can't terminate at Pasir Ris Int as it will affect Loyang and Pasir Ris Dr 1 residents who take 39 to Yishun or Woodlands (transfer to 168 at Seletar).
The option I would recommend is to divert it to Changi Village Terminal via Loyang Avenue. The issue there is it might not be in a position to take in more services as the terminal space is quite limited.
The other option is to have it loop at Loyang Ave via Pasir Ris Dr 2.
If worst comes the worst can always make the service to go usual route, but instead of crossing to Tampines at Loyang Ave, it can head upwards and go back via perhaps Drive 3. This way, it also serves Downtown East people and can terminate at PSR int.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
On sv 39, I completely agree that going to Tampines Int is a waste because people will take 969 rather than 39 to Tampines. Those who want to go to Tampines Ave 7, 4, 5 or 2 can also take 858 and change at Seletar stop to 168. Why will they take 39 that has a long winding route to Tampines?
I think the reason 39 goes to Tampines is because they don't have many terminating options. Either terminate at Pasir Ris Int or Tampines. Can't terminate at Pasir Ris Int as it will affect Loyang and Pasir Ris Dr 1 residents who take 39 to Yishun or Woodlands (transfer to 168 at Seletar).
The option I would recommend is to divert it to Changi Village Terminal via Loyang Avenue. The issue there is it might not be in a position to take in more services as the terminal space is quite limited.
The other option is to have it loop at Loyang Ave via Pasir Ris Dr 2.
Can always loop via Loyang Ave > Pasir Ris Dr 3 to Pasir Ris Int.
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Originally posted by BusAnalayzer:
SMB66X, just to clarify, sv 85 is mainly useful as it serves as a townlink between Sengkang West and Sengkang East. It need not be compared to sv 965 in the first place as they have different routes. If anyone from Yishun wants to go to Sengkang, Punggol Road, best option is 965. If you want to go to other parts of Sengkang, 85 is a good option.
But the loading of sv 85 apart from few time slots in peak hours is weak between Yishun and Sengkang, but within Sengkang area, even off-peak buses have a good 35-40 pax within Sengkang town.
85 will also gain more popularity in coming years when Sengkang West and Punggol areas develop. For now, existing fleet is just fine and serving well. You will hardly see a sv 85 bus packed to the door. Having said that, I repeat that it is still an important service for within Sengkang town.
Hmm because I was planning to board at Yishun, transfer to 86 at Sengkang [Opp Blk 372B or so]. Which svc, 965/85, would you suggest then?
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Hmm because I was planning to board at Yishun, transfer to 86 at Sengkang [Opp Blk 372B or so]. Which svc, 965/85, would you suggest then?
Ah bro there is no such block at Blk 372B in Sengkang. Only 472B Sengkang West Ave which 85 plies.
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
Ah bro there is no such block at Blk 372B in Sengkang. Only 472B Sengkang West Ave which 85 plies.
PS, typo, it's 323B
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
PS, typo, it's 323B
965 go Sengkang and walk is faster. In terms of bus stop 965 has less stops than 85. 85 go thru Jalan Kayu+ Sengkang West Ave to your destination is around 10 stops.
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Originally posted by TIB 585L:
965 go Sengkang and walk is faster. In terms of bus stop 965 has less stops than 85. 85 go thru Jalan Kayu+ Sengkang West Ave to your destination is around 10 stops.
965 Faster? Hmm but I tot the Jalan Kayu Sector would have no demand, same for SKG West, isn't it faster?
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
965 Faster? Hmm but I tot the Jalan Kayu Sector would have no demand, same for SKG West, isn't it faster?
Never took 85 before but i prefer 965 to 85. Demand or no demand. We have to assume there is demand and 85 will stop on some of the bus stop.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
965 Faster? Hmm but I tot the Jalan Kayu Sector would have no demand, same for SKG West, isn't it faster?
Jln Kayu will have pax one. But most of the time is only ONE person. Or at most 3. Sengkang West only Blk 323B and Blk 317_ will have around 7-8 pax board the bus. Anyways, if you wanna change to 86, I always suggest you to take 965 and change to 86 at Blk 190C. Faster, more direct too.
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Originally posted by SMB128B:
Jln Kayu will have pax one. But most of the time is only ONE person. Or at most 3. Sengkang West only Blk 323B and Blk 317_ will have around 7-8 pax board the bus. Anyways, if you wanna change to 86, I always suggest you to take 965 and change to 86 at Blk 190C. Faster, more direct too.
Roughly same as 858 > 86 I presume.
Somehow or rather, waiting for 86 at bus stop and bus interchange is a "big" difference :x Probably with the arrival time board
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SMRT seriously enjoy packing people like sardines so maybe they should shift operations to meatpacking facilities along senoko industrial area , or perhaps they should have the licsense to operate DD instead of BENDY ..... anyway Bednys suit SBS transit better since their routes are mainly long haul and long winded journeys , bendy is perfect ..... SMRT however is really a Cepat eskpress service which are better suited with DD , i mean like just pack them unto the bus and speed instead of forcing them to use space at the rear of the bendy useless
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Feeder services are just the type of service to lack in service standard , for SMRT especially 804 , 806 , 903 , 904 can be shelved if trunk routes are added to reduce feeder , perhaps a trunk that links admiralty , sembawang and khatib ......
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Roughly same as 858 > 86 I presume.
Somehow or rather, waiting for 86 at bus stop and bus interchange is a "big" difference :x Probably with the arrival time board
No.
In fact 858 is same as 85. You change buses at Jln Kayu. But the thing is after you board 86 it still takes you to Blk 190C no matter what. So why stop in the middle of the expressway? Why not just take 965 straight to Blk 190C and change to 86?
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Originally posted by SMB144D:
SMRT seriously enjoy packing people like sardines so maybe they should shift operations to meatpacking facilities along senoko industrial area , or perhaps they should have the licsense to operate DD instead of BENDY ..... anyway Bednys suit SBS transit better since their routes are mainly long haul and long winded journeys , bendy is perfect ..... SMRT however is really a Cepat eskpress service which are better suited with DD , i mean like just pack them unto the bus and speed instead of forcing them to use space at the rear of the bendy useless
Time for SBS trial new bendy~ MANDY or Citaro G~ -
Originally posted by SMB144D:
Feeder services are just the type of service to lack in service standard , for SMRT especially 804 , 806 , 903 , 904 can be shelved if trunk routes are added to reduce feeder , perhaps a trunk that links admiralty , sembawang and khatib ......
Agreed. 903 should fleet add to 7-8buses instead. Every morning[6:45-6:55], could hardly wait for 1 bus. During this slot, it's either you see bunches with full loading[on the first bus], or swey swey 2 buses infront departed before 6:50, and left with 1 full bus behind at 6:57am. [Weekdays]
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Anyways there are already 969/965/858 linking Khatib,Sembawang and Admiralty. Unless u think these 3 are unreliable that there is another need to add 1 more bus that plies Ave 7 Sembawang and Khatib